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AIBU? Missed the immediate aftermath of FIL’s death for a work event and now whole family is freezing me out

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jooooosh · Today 17:15

Need some perspective here because I am currently sleeping in the spare room and nobody in my family will talk to me.

I'm 44M and my wife is 44F. We've been together since we were teenagers, married for many years, and have three kids. We're very close to each other's families. My in laws have basically known me since I was a kid, so they’ve always treated me like family.

About three weeks ago, I had to travel from Madrid to Los Angeles for a very important work project. There was a huge amount of money involved and some very wealthy clients, so I had several meetings and events that had been planned well in advance. Honestly, their lifestyle isn't really my thing, but professionally I had to be involved.

When I left Madrid, my wife and kids were on holiday in Mallorca. Everything was completely fine between us.

About a week into my trip, my father in law suddenly became seriously ill and was admitted to the ICU. My wife called me repeatedly that night, along with my kids. I normally keep my phone on silent when I’m sleeping, so I didn't see the calls immediately.

When I called my wife back at morning, she was crying and told me what had happened. She asked me to come home

I immediately started looking for flights. The problem was that I had several important commitments over the next 3–4 days, including a major event hosted by one of our clients and a call with people from another company that I genuinely needed to attend. I told my wife I would come back as soon as I could.

Unfortunately, my father in law died that afternoon.

I started looking for flights again, but there weren't any suitable flights available for the next couple of days. I eventually booked the earliest flight I could get.

And this is where I completely screwed up.
That night, I still went to the client's party.
It was a big LA type event, I stayed late, and honestly, looking back, I understand how terrible that looks. My wife found out where I had been through a friend.

The next morning she was furious. She told me that while her father had just died, I was out partying in Los Angeles.

I tried explaining that the event had already been planned, that I was trying to get home, and that I had already booked my flight. But I realize now that none of that probably mattered to her in that moment.

I ended up changing my plans again, flew LA to London to Madrid, and arrived the following day.

By the time I got there, my wife, kids, mother in law and the rest of the family were already in another city preparing for the funeral.
When I arrived, nobody really spoke to me.
My wife wouldn't look at me. My mother in law was extremely cold toward me. Her brother and sister also barely acknowledged me.

Funeral happened, and I felt completely sidelined. It has now been six days. My wife has barely spoken to me. one time she did, she was extremely angry. I'm currently sleeping in another room.

I know I made a terrible decision by going to that party. I should probably have stayed in my hotel, even if I couldn't get an earlier flight. I can understand why seeing pictures or hearing that I was at a party while her father had just died would feel absolutely awful.

But at the same time, I genuinely was trying to get home. I wasn't choosing a party over my father in law's funeral. I was dealing with a work commitment, couldn't immediately get a flight, and had already booked the earliest one I could find.

My in laws and I have always been extremely close. I've known them for decades, and I've never treated them like they're just my wife's family. I loved my father in law too.

So I'm struggling with this.

Did I really deserve to be completely shut out and treated like I don't exist for six days?

OP posts:
hotchocinsummer · Today 17:40

Yabvu.
no job is worth that.
even if you detested your father in law, your wife needed you.
unforgivable.

Anotherrollpleasesally · Today 17:41

Yeah the optics look shit

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 17:41

I started looking for flights again, but there weren't any suitable flights available for the next couple of days.

Bollocks. You could have made it via a non direct route, you didn't want to.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · Today 17:42

How come when you realized you screwed up you could suddenly get home. If it hadn't been possible fair enough but you chose not to. Its a choice you made.

justasmalltownmum · Today 17:42

You were wrong.

Sewingbeedamned · Today 17:42

Doigoforit2 · Today 17:18

The problem was that I had several important commitments over the next 3–4 days, including a major event hosted by one of our clients and a call with people from another company that I genuinely needed to attend. I told my wife I would come back as soon as I could.

Your wife’s father, who you had known for decades, died. This was more important

Nailed it.

OP, you found work more important than family. Your wife needed you and she wasn’t your priority. Over and above your terrible judgement about the party, you clearly showed what you found most important. I’d be annoyed at you too.

I would guess there’s more to this and that this is not the first time your priority has not been family. There fact you don’t seem to grasp this is troubling.

PleaseDontAsk · Today 17:42

hotchocinsummer · Today 17:40

Yabvu.
no job is worth that.
even if you detested your father in law, your wife needed you.
unforgivable.

Im guessing you're so privileged that if you'd lose your job over this, you'd risk it? You wouldn't have to worry about money or anything.If you were your partner would lose their job?

Not everyone has that level of privilege.

NeverDropYourMooncup · Today 17:42

thesealion · Today 17:34

How would him sitting alone in his hotel have helped the situation? I don’t see the logic here at all.

It would have meant she didn't find out from somebody else that he was enjoying a party when he'd already (in her mind) ignored her emergency calls and those of his children and then failed to book an earlier flight because there was a fancy party to go to.

Add together that he wasn't available in the initial emergency (possibly also out having a good time in the minds of the bereaved family), refused (in their minds) to come back, the man then died and he still wasn't back, but turned out to be having a good time and it's hardly surprising that people experiencing a shock bereavement don't really have much to say to him.

Probably a good time to pull the sticking plaster off and just get on with the divorce, really.

OnlyUsername · Today 17:42

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 17:41

I started looking for flights again, but there weren't any suitable flights available for the next couple of days.

Bollocks. You could have made it via a non direct route, you didn't want to.

Yeah. What is "suitable". You get on the next one to London Heathrow or Schiphol. They leave about every hour from LAX. My DH used to go monthly.

FergussSingsTheBlues · Today 17:42

What an asshole.

TVonyable · Today 17:43

YABU. I was in the USA for important work last week, if my FIL/MIL had died suddenly fly I would be on e the NEXT flight home, there are many flights from LA, what do you mean by “suitable”? You dithered, were you worried about cost/airline choice?

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · Today 17:44

Well it is what it is. Doesn’t matter what we think. Your family think you screwed up so what are you going to do to make it right? She’s angry and grieving so not a good combination.you need a plan.

Holeymoley28 · Today 17:44

I can’t imagine me ringing my husband to tell
him my parent had died and him just being ok I’ll get home whenever.

Id never be able to look at him the same. When I needed him to support me and our children he was out partying. Nope.

Tryagain26 · Today 17:45

Are you saying you couldn't get home any earlier than you did? Or did you hang on longer for work reasons.
Also when you say you went to the party did you go just to show your face and talk to your client and leave early or did you drink heavily and actually party, party. If the first I don't think you did anything wrong as you couldn't actually get home. If the latter then yes you were very wrong.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · Today 17:46

PleaseDontAsk · Today 17:42

Im guessing you're so privileged that if you'd lose your job over this, you'd risk it? You wouldn't have to worry about money or anything.If you were your partner would lose their job?

Not everyone has that level of privilege.

But he did, hence then being able to fly home. He could, he just didn't want to.

PleaseDontAsk · Today 17:46

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · Today 17:46

But he did, hence then being able to fly home. He could, he just didn't want to.

He came back when the work was over.

ladyb2gw · Today 17:47

This seems like a reverse.

TheBossOfMe · Today 17:48

PleaseDontAsk · Today 17:42

Im guessing you're so privileged that if you'd lose your job over this, you'd risk it? You wouldn't have to worry about money or anything.If you were your partner would lose their job?

Not everyone has that level of privilege.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would get the sack for leaving a work trip early because a close family member died.

@jooooosh I also find it hard to believe you couldn’t get an earlier flight home. You can’t have tried very hard. I fly to and from the US all the time. There are so many flights that it’s almost impossible to believe that you couldn’t find one seat, even if it meant connecting somewhere. You just didn’t want to. You prioritised work over your wife and children at a life changing time for them.

And then you compound that by partying.

My ex not being there for me when my DF died is a major reason he’s my ex. The day he said he wasn’t coming to the funeral effectively is the day my marriage ended. I suspect you’ll find yourself in the same position.

Cadeaukatze · Today 17:48

It wasn't your parent and you couldn't do anything. Coming back wouldn't make him any less dead.

And you need to work to make a living. Jobs aren't easy to come by currently.

Of course, it would be different if it was your child and I did once fly home early from a work event in the US because my son was ill. But I wouldn't because MIL or FIL was ill.

Bollihobs · Today 17:48

BeeHive909 · Today 17:23

You put work above your family and their needs and for me that would be the end of our relationship . There would have been flights and connecting flights you choose not to take them and went out partying . I’m genuinely not sure how you can repair the relationships because if it was my family we’d never ever forgive you

Seriously???? You can't see that keeping your job, that thing that pays all the bills etc. might have to take priority over getting home a couple of days sooner.

I'd have rung/messaged my DH to tell him what had happened but no way would I expect him to bail on his work to come home.

As for it being "the end of the relationship" that's simply ridiculous.

Cadeaukatze · Today 17:49

Also saying the pp was partying is very emotive. It was a work event.

LemonyCurd · Today 17:50

Cadeaukatze · Today 17:49

Also saying the pp was partying is very emotive. It was a work event.

Are you generally devoid of empathy? Of course it was emotive - her father just died!

BreadInCaptivity · Today 17:50

WhosGotTheKeysToMyBimma · Today 17:28

Your FIL was already dead, there was nothing that you could usefully do, your wife has support among her family.

Yes it would be nice to have come back straightaway, but the reality is compassionate leave is limited and once that runs out you're expected back at work.

I think your wife is grieving and a tiny bit unreasonable. You are also a tiny bit unreasonable for not realising how the client event would look. I hope you can work it out.

This in a nutshell.

I understand they are in shock and grieving but the reality is there wasn’t much more you could have done.

My only criticism is that it seems you were planning to stay on the trip for the full duration but managed to get back earlier when pressed.

Thus it was possible for you to get back earlier than you originally indicated but this would not have been before the party (hence attending this event is a bit of a moot point imho).

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · Today 17:50

PleaseDontAsk · Today 17:46

He came back when the work was over.

No he didn't, he cut it short after his wife found out about the party. Suddenly he was able to fly home early

OnlyUsername · Today 17:52

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · Today 17:50

No he didn't, he cut it short after his wife found out about the party. Suddenly he was able to fly home early

I think this is what annoyed me. He didn't come back to support his kids and wife, he came back because he had an "Oh shit" moment