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If your dad didnt bother with you, then showed up 20 years later asking for a kidney for his child - would you say yes?

163 replies

hotmumshit · Today 15:55

Not a real scenario, watching eastenders, and have thought about being asked to donate something to an unknown sibling

I dunno, I dont know if I would 🤔

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ThatLilacTiger · Today 17:36

I'd be inclined to give my kidney to any child who needed it if I was a match. I'd want to check whether I was a match for my own kids first though, as I'd probably keep it for them in that case.

hotmumshit · Today 17:38

Kirbert2 · Today 16:23

It's rare that they show cancer very accurately. Both Coronation Street and I think it was Emmerdale maybe have both done childhood cancer storylines in the past few years and as someone who has had a child with cancer, I really wish they hadn't bothered.

I forgot to come back to this

💐 xx

Its such an important topic, its piss taking when they dont do it well

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hotmumshit · Today 17:40

XenoBitch · Today 16:25

It made me mad too. It would also piss me off to be seen as spare parts.
I am not sure of the process after a match is found.
I know that people who are donating organs get interviewed etc and no transplant goes ahead if there is any inkling of coercion or blackmail.

It would feel to me that i was being used - theres just no way not to

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hotmumshit · Today 17:41

peachgreen · Today 16:40

Stem cells, absolutely. I'm on the DKMS stem cell register and would donate regardless of recipient. A kidney, no. Not now I have a child and I'm her only living biological parent. As with money and time, I am saving any spare organs I might have for her!

ETA: Apologies if this has already been posted – I couldn't see it but may have missed it – but the register is here, if anyone wants to sign up: www.dkms.org.uk/get-involved/become-a-donor

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Sorry @peachgreen , didnt see this!

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WhyReindeer · Today 17:42

No I wouldn't but this thread made me wonder...

As you probably know, in order to donate an organ, the donor needs to be 'alive' when the organ is removed which really means that (Excluding live organ donations like a kidney) only those on ventilators or in intensive care when they are assessed as brain dead can donate viable organs.

So my question is if you donate a kidney to a relative (say an aging parent) and then they die in hospital in circumstances where organ donation is possible and you are still alive... can you have it back again? Do they do that? That would be pretty traumatic having a loved one die and then go straight into surgery.

godmum56 · Today 17:43

ThatLilacTiger · Today 17:36

I'd be inclined to give my kidney to any child who needed it if I was a match. I'd want to check whether I was a match for my own kids first though, as I'd probably keep it for them in that case.

I don't think you can do that...at least not via the NHS

hotmumshit · Today 17:43

godmum56 · Today 16:57

didn't we have a thread on here last year about someone refusing to be tested when a distant family member needed a kidney?

Dont remember this

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hotmumshit · Today 17:44

godmum56 · Today 17:43

I don't think you can do that...at least not via the NHS

I mean, how hard is it to test the blood match?! Could save so many problems down the line

Then again, could lead to family abandonment for the kid who isnt a match 🤔

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hotmumshit · Today 17:45

WhyReindeer · Today 17:42

No I wouldn't but this thread made me wonder...

As you probably know, in order to donate an organ, the donor needs to be 'alive' when the organ is removed which really means that (Excluding live organ donations like a kidney) only those on ventilators or in intensive care when they are assessed as brain dead can donate viable organs.

So my question is if you donate a kidney to a relative (say an aging parent) and then they die in hospital in circumstances where organ donation is possible and you are still alive... can you have it back again? Do they do that? That would be pretty traumatic having a loved one die and then go straight into surgery.

I saw this on greys anatomy - although I think the guy was fully dead - he didn't get his kidney back and was treated as annoyance 😩

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hotmumshit · Today 17:46

user1471538275 · Today 17:00

Wud I eck! (chanelling my inner Eastender)

Peggy'd be proud!

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XenoBitch · Today 17:46

WhyReindeer · Today 17:42

No I wouldn't but this thread made me wonder...

As you probably know, in order to donate an organ, the donor needs to be 'alive' when the organ is removed which really means that (Excluding live organ donations like a kidney) only those on ventilators or in intensive care when they are assessed as brain dead can donate viable organs.

So my question is if you donate a kidney to a relative (say an aging parent) and then they die in hospital in circumstances where organ donation is possible and you are still alive... can you have it back again? Do they do that? That would be pretty traumatic having a loved one die and then go straight into surgery.

I doubt they would. Most people do fine with one kidney, so there would be no medical need to have your old one back.
I am not sure it would be possible anyway. You would still need all the vessels etc to reattach your old kidney.

getthroughonemoreday · Today 17:48

Nope. No way. I'm saving my kidneys for my own personal use, thank you very much, and would only consider parting with one for close family. I wouldn't consider him my family, really, if he hadn't bothered with me. The man in this scenario isn't a father. He's a sperm donor.

godmum56 · Today 17:49

hotmumshit · Today 17:43

Dont remember this

I searched and couldn't find it, maybe it was removed.

JustAnotherWhinger · Today 17:50

godmum56 · Today 17:28

As I recall, on the other thread I mentioned, it was confirmed as true by someone in the know. Apparently also (it was a very useful thread) potential donors are screened psychologically and emotionally. Its not enough to just agree to do it. IIRC, once the donor screening process is started, potential donors situations are also checked out for undue pressure.

I know of a teenager who was turned down as a donor by the transplant team. They never even got to find out if they were match. The transplant team said they were too susceptible to pressure and emotions and couldn’t fully consent properly. The teen was absolutely furious at the time, but did say a few years later that they did feel under massively pressure from their family.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 17:52

In Eastenders they need blood for plasma so not an organ. In that case, I wouldn’t think twice about offering blood to save a life. No way would I part with an organ unless my heart has stopped beating.

XenoBitch · Today 17:54

godmum56 · Today 17:49

I searched and couldn't find it, maybe it was removed.

Was it this one?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5101267-living-donor-dilemma?page=13&reply=136195985

3luckystars · Today 17:55

I’m keeping my kidneys in case my children need them and that’s the end of it.

hotmumshit · Today 17:58

godmum56 · Today 17:49

I searched and couldn't find it, maybe it was removed.

Sorry Didnt mean to be so blunt 😩, was just thinking aloud

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hotmumshit · Today 17:58

JustAnotherWhinger · Today 17:50

I know of a teenager who was turned down as a donor by the transplant team. They never even got to find out if they were match. The transplant team said they were too susceptible to pressure and emotions and couldn’t fully consent properly. The teen was absolutely furious at the time, but did say a few years later that they did feel under massively pressure from their family.

Aww I can imagine 🥺

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hotmumshit · Today 17:59

getthroughonemoreday · Today 17:48

Nope. No way. I'm saving my kidneys for my own personal use, thank you very much, and would only consider parting with one for close family. I wouldn't consider him my family, really, if he hadn't bothered with me. The man in this scenario isn't a father. He's a sperm donor.

For your own personal use made me chuckle dont even know why 😄

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IonianNerveGrip · Today 18:00

Yetanotherone12 · Today 17:22

What if your child needs it, but you’re not a match.

but their family of the person you said no to is?

if you haven’t been tested for a match with your kids what’s the point?

while I am not sure if I’d donate to a stranger, I wouldn’t gatekeep my own organs on the incredibly rare chance my kids might need a transplant without at least knowing if I could donate to them.

if I was ever approached to be a living donor I’d weigh up the individual circumstances and risks. I wouldn’t say no on the basis that hypothetically someone I may not even match to might need one in the future.

I think gatekeeping one's own organs is fine personally...

In the situation you outline, a person who's said no to being tested won't know they're a match with the other relative. So it won't arise. All I'd know in that situation is that I'm not a match with my kids.

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 18:00

No.

godmum56 · Today 18:00

hotmumshit · Today 17:58

Sorry Didnt mean to be so blunt 😩, was just thinking aloud

oh its ok. I do short answers sometimes on my phone 🌺

PrettyLittleRose · Today 18:01

XenoBitch · Today 17:20

I remember that one.
As I recall, some people called OP selfish.

I'll just be selfish then! And keep my kidney for my OWN children! Wink

godmum56 · Today 18:02

it was! thank you. I know this is a hypothetical thread but there was quite a bit of useful onfo in that one.