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To love Meghan and Harry but think they need to let us see the kids?

328 replies

hotmumshit · Yesterday 20:00

I'm no Meghan hater, but, if youre coming back to the uk and royal life, I do think the kids need to be shown.

Just like i like seeing Louis and the others, theyve got little personalities we want to see 🤷‍♀️

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AustenitesUnite · Yesterday 21:12

If H & M published photos of their children and it was later announced that RAVEC had granted them taxpayer-funded security, the British public would be complaining that H&M had forced RAVEC into providing security by identifying their children

I'm no fan of H&M at all but I fully respect their decision not to release photos and just wish that they would be as circumspect with the other areas of their lives . . .

Loulou4022 · Yesterday 21:12

hotmumshit · Yesterday 20:04

I'm surprised by the poll. Not intending to ask a silly question, but why?

Part of the royals deal is that we get a photo every year and see them during the Trooping the Colour, which I love.

But they opted out of the royal family so to all intents and purposes they’re private citizens.

Blueandwhitestripey · Yesterday 21:12

hotmumshit · Yesterday 20:33

The anger towards them is ridiculous, cant enjoy ITV for 5 mins without someone popping up to slag her off

And yet you don’t get why they would want to shield their kids?

To be fair to you it’s not so much that you’re being weird with this specific request. The whole institution of the royals and the way people fawn over them in this day and age is weird. And this is just a continuation of that. Why are people groomed to think this family is so special and superior? It’s all bonkers.

I hope they protect their kids faces. Kids are too young to consent to this.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 21:13

nomas · Yesterday 21:08

Yes, you have been respectful.

The posts by Autumn were particularly bizarre. No one is even allowed to care about or want to see the kids apparently!

Thank you

Completely agree, its a chat forum, we chat here 🤷‍♀️

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NoisyUmberBalonz · Yesterday 21:13

Weird af

hotmumshit · Yesterday 21:15

nomas · Yesterday 21:01

Never say never.

I think they'll be back

Harry is a prince, thats who he is. And hes loved, hes great with the public whereas will is more stoic seeming

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hotmumshit · Yesterday 21:16

user293948849167 · Yesterday 21:06

They’re not working royals, their kids are never going to be working royals, nobody has a right to see photos of them.
It’s different with William’s kids because their Dad is going to be King and George will be King one day so they are in the public eye whether they like it or not. I still don’t think that gives the press the right to follow kids around taking unofficial photos though

Not questioning you in particular but have we seen any press photos of the kids? I dont think we have 🤔

Everything is controlled, which I think is right

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WerewolfOfLoudon · Yesterday 21:16

PrestonHood121 · Yesterday 21:10

Yet, Harry keeps demanding tax payer funded security for them all. According to him, its his "birthright" and so on and so on.

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He's not wrong. The only reason he would even need security is because he was born into royalty. As a child he wasn't even allowed to grieve the loss of his mum in private.

Tax payers have provided security for a bunch of men who have raped people including children while they were MPs.

The Royals aren't fully tax payers funded either so when it was stated it's a family matter then it sounds like the Royal estate will pay for their security.

Blueandwhitestripey · Yesterday 21:16

pimplebum · Yesterday 21:03

They have had racially motivated death threats and no decent security

i am curious and would like to see the kids faces but not at the risk they would be harmed

Death threats - really? Ugh horrible.

Not surprised though, I cut off a friend who said racist and sexist things about Meghan.

Not because I was a fan of Megan (not keen on any of the royals or royal adjacent people) but the racism and internalised misogyny spelt the end of our friendship.

She was obsessed with Harry so I think it was fuelled by jealousy, but still I couldn’t unhear what she said.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 21:17

SilenceInside · Yesterday 21:09

Why do you even want to see pictures of their children as some kind of payment in kind for them being royals? Why not just pictures of them as a couple at any official royal engagements they participate in? It’s so odd to focus on their children as if you have some right to access them.

Honestly, its them as a family that some of us are interested in 🤷‍♀️

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KittyMcCatface · Yesterday 21:18

YABU for loving Meghan and Harry. A habitual liar and a racist, violent, lying nob head. Their kids should not be exposed to the public, there is absolutely no need.

Blueandwhitestripey · Yesterday 21:18

WerewolfOfLoudon · Yesterday 21:16

He's not wrong. The only reason he would even need security is because he was born into royalty. As a child he wasn't even allowed to grieve the loss of his mum in private.

Tax payers have provided security for a bunch of men who have raped people including children while they were MPs.

The Royals aren't fully tax payers funded either so when it was stated it's a family matter then it sounds like the Royal estate will pay for their security.

Tax payers have provided security for a bunch of men who have raped people including children while they were MPs

I hate all the money going to the royals but this is a very good point. Sheesh. I’d never thought of it like that.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 21:19

FlowerUser · Yesterday 21:10

I suspect the King is paying for their security.

And I assume you are aware that The Crown was fictional, based on real life, so you know that many of the personalities and conversations were actually made up? If you like Princesses Anne and Margaret in it, then presumably you liked the actors who played them in the way they were directed to, using the words written in a script.

The Crown is not real life, though it may have been very close. But Harry and Meghan and their children do live real lives, in the real world, and there is nothing wrong with protecting their children's images from being exploited by others.

As grandchidren of the reigning monarch, Archie and Lilibet have the titles of Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet.

I was making light convo tbh

I know that Margaret and Anne werent actually acting in the show...

But I think that they captured the personalities of them a little, as far as we know, no?

And I think Margaret was fun, wasnt she? I was born in the early 90s so missed it

But I did watch will and Harry grow up - there's a kind of attachment that comes with that

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hotmumshit · Yesterday 21:21

WerewolfOfLoudon · Yesterday 21:16

He's not wrong. The only reason he would even need security is because he was born into royalty. As a child he wasn't even allowed to grieve the loss of his mum in private.

Tax payers have provided security for a bunch of men who have raped people including children while they were MPs.

The Royals aren't fully tax payers funded either so when it was stated it's a family matter then it sounds like the Royal estate will pay for their security.

Agree that he does need security - and support, the guy cant just go and get a job

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ilovesooty · Yesterday 21:22

I'm a lot older than you. I never thought Princess Margaret was "fun".

Knickerstoya · Yesterday 21:22

ilovesooty · Yesterday 21:22

I'm a lot older than you. I never thought Princess Margaret was "fun".

Me neither.

SilenceInside · Yesterday 21:22

@hotmumshit but can you recognise that some people might view your interest in their children as unjustified and intrusive? You think you have a right to access their children’s lives because they are royals and you feel that you are somehow owed that level of access. Because of your taxpayers money, like it’s pay for access.

Futurehappiness · Yesterday 21:23

One of the things (there are many) that I really despise about the monarchy is the expectation that the RF's children are paraded about in public...starting from when they are babies a few hours old, and culminating in things like the spectacle of the very young William and Harry following their mother's coffin at her funeral.

The idea that the children are public property is something I find really nauseating. This idea is apparent in the resentment directed at Harry & Meghan for their decision to protect their own children from it.

KittyMcCatface · Yesterday 21:23

hotmumshit · Yesterday 21:19

I was making light convo tbh

I know that Margaret and Anne werent actually acting in the show...

But I think that they captured the personalities of them a little, as far as we know, no?

And I think Margaret was fun, wasnt she? I was born in the early 90s so missed it

But I did watch will and Harry grow up - there's a kind of attachment that comes with that

How did you watch William and Harry grow up if you were born in the early 90s? By the time you knew what you were looking at, they were young men.

Yousay55 · Yesterday 21:23

I’d love to see what they look like too! I understand why they don’t want people to know & respect their privacy, but I’m curious. I bet they’re both beautiful!

SquashPenguin · Yesterday 21:24

This is creepy as hell. You have no more right to see their kids than you do anyone else’s. They’re little kids, leave them be.

If the Wales’ want to parade their kids about, that’s up to them. I don’t care for the royals but equally I don’t hate them, and I have no real opinion on H&M either but they are doing a good job raising their kids in private.

Kokonimater · Yesterday 21:24

nomas · Yesterday 20:43

Of course they’re still royal, he’s a prince and fifth in line to the throne.

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He has no official royal duties and will not take any on. Will not be present at royal events. Is a prince in name only. Yes. 5th in line to the throne - that can only be removed by an act of parliament.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 21:25

KittyMcCatface · Yesterday 21:23

How did you watch William and Harry grow up if you were born in the early 90s? By the time you knew what you were looking at, they were young men.

Yes I will never forget seeing them behind their mums coffin. Never.

And from then on, all their mistakes in the tabloids. Theres a kind of attachment to them that we feel having seen that.

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Octopusk · Yesterday 21:26

Couldn't disagree more, OP. I don't think any of the children should be in the public eye (and that includes the Waleses).

pilates · Yesterday 21:26

No, we don’t have rights to see the children. What a weird thing to say. Anyway, it’s too dangerous here in the UK don’t you know.

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