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AIBU to say an owner was irresponsible after his dog jumped at my toddler?

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ProudSwan · 26/08/2026 13:49

I was walking with my young toddler in the park, just a few metres away from a gated playground, when a border terrier belonging to an older group of people suddenly came running straight toward us. Because the dog was large enough that its face was level with my daughter's face and throat—and since I didn't know the dog—I instinctively scooped her up to keep her safe.
The moment she was in my arms, the dog began jumping frantically at her. I firmly told it "no," and the owner finally came over and retrieved it. My daughter was very upset, so I walked away with her crying in my arms. Although she was wearing trousers that prevented the dog from breaking the skin, she was left with many visible red marks on her legs, which she mentioned still hurt later that afternoon when I was changing her.
Shortly after, the owner approached me to "explain." He claimed his dog was actually very friendly and good with children, and that the aggressive behaviour was entirely my fault for picking her up. He explained that his dog "has a thing" about children being held in their parents' arms, and claimed he had been about to warn me not to pick her up. He offered no apology, repeating only that he wanted to justify his dog's actions.
I responded that if his dog couldn't cope with children being held, it shouldn't be off-lead in a public park near a playground. I pointed out that the frightening incident could make her fearful of dogs—noting that a relative had a similar childhood experience that caused their fear of dogs which would be sad because she currently loves dogs.
He dismissed my concerns, arguing that they don't use a lead because incidents like this "don't happen often, maybe once a month." He reiterated that the dog was friendly, that local children regularly pet him, and that the fault lay entirely with me for picking my daughter up. He even mentioned they had looked it up online and decided the dog was showing a "protective instinct towards the child."
At that point, I suggested that if the dog truly was friendly, they could hold it on a lead for a moment so my daughter could see it was safe and had just been "playing" or "protective." The owner refused, saying the rest of his group had already moved on—which only made me question how friendly the dog actually was.
Ultimately, no apology was offered. The owner's stance was that it is a public park and they therefore aren't required to use a lead, that the whole thing was my fault for picking up my child, and that my daughter wasn't really all that hurt or upset and they don't have to have it on a lead and then he left. Was it so unreasonable to expect a dog that is known by their owners to jump at children in arms to be on a lead?

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Moth2aflame · 26/08/2026 14:15

I’ve had a dog do similar and the owner was laughing “just a puppy doesn’t know better” to which I replied “then should be on a lead while training”. They became very unhappy with that comment too. Some dog owners seem to be this way.

For years my child was scared of dogs after

Roseshavethorns · 26/08/2026 14:16

Every dog should always be on a lead in a public place.
I don't want a lecture on how to keep my child/ dog/ shopping safe from your dog. I want you to keep your dog under control. (Obviously I know you can never be 100% in control of a dog but you can do your best to reduce the risk of anything happening).
I am sick of being told oh it's ok they are very friendly as strange dogs, completely out of control, come running up to my dog. It has been worse this year than ever.

Happyjoe · 26/08/2026 14:19

Previous dog owner here - the guy is an absolute arsehole and is blaming you rather than his aggressive dog.

Drivingmissrangey · 26/08/2026 14:20

I put dog owners in the same bucket as cyclists. 50% selfish d1cks, 40% oblivious d1cks and 10% ok.

itsmycheese · 26/08/2026 14:22

Dog owner completely in the wrong, but on par for a (sadly increasing) number of dog owners. My DD got knocked over twice by dogs in the park when she was a toddler - one owner's "reason" was that my DD looked like her granddaughter, so of course the dog had run up to her! DD is now scared of any dog that runs or barks (we're working on it, for her sake).

Dogs should be on leads in all public spaces, except designated dog spaces.

MyMilchick · 26/08/2026 14:24

Oh yes you should absolutely never pick up your young child when an unknown dog is running at her just in case they're friendly 🙄 ............ what an absolute idiot. Also pretty sure most public parks require dogs to be on leads. I am also a dog owner

Hadalifeonce · 26/08/2026 14:25

I believe it would be akin to a great Dane bounding up to an adult, would they really just stand there so the dog wasn't excited?

Shatenoeuf · 26/08/2026 14:26

TheHungryHungryLandsharks · 26/08/2026 13:58

I say this on every thread (and get yelled at on every thread - even though the advice is correct), but the worst thing you can do in these situations is pick a child (or dog) up. It's the one thing almost every trainer, vet, behaviourist and dog charity will tell you not to do - because it does excite dogs.

I know it's instinct, but I would really urge people to think before reacting as OP did. Not only do you excite the dog, you also leave yourself completely defenceless. You arms are wrapped around your child (or smaller dog) and you cannot defend yourself if you need. It's almost more likely that if a dog jumps at you, you will become unbalanced because you can't use your arms to steady yourself.

The best thing to do is be a barrier between your child/dog and the approaching dog.

Doesn't help as this situation has already happened, and I'm sorry it did, but I hope the above is helpful for if this happens again and to avoid other people making the same potentially dangerous mistake.

Edited

This is not reasonable. Any parent when faced with a dog jumping at a toddler will pick that child up to protect it and remove it from the dog. Its safety point

If a dog gets over excited by this it needs muzzling. End of.

Scaremongerer · 26/08/2026 14:26

TheHungryHungryLandsharks · 26/08/2026 13:58

I say this on every thread (and get yelled at on every thread - even though the advice is correct), but the worst thing you can do in these situations is pick a child (or dog) up. It's the one thing almost every trainer, vet, behaviourist and dog charity will tell you not to do - because it does excite dogs.

I know it's instinct, but I would really urge people to think before reacting as OP did. Not only do you excite the dog, you also leave yourself completely defenceless. You arms are wrapped around your child (or smaller dog) and you cannot defend yourself if you need. It's almost more likely that if a dog jumps at you, you will become unbalanced because you can't use your arms to steady yourself.

The best thing to do is be a barrier between your child/dog and the approaching dog.

Doesn't help as this situation has already happened, and I'm sorry it did, but I hope the above is helpful for if this happens again and to avoid other people making the same potentially dangerous mistake.

Edited

avoid other people making the same potentially dangerous mistake

No. You calling a person picking up their child to protect them, a ‘mistake’ is putting the blame on the parent. The blame is entirely on the dog’s irresponsible owner.

AlwaysExtraHot · 26/08/2026 14:26

YANBU. He was extremely irresponsible and, frankly, talking shite.
It doesn't matter how friendly and good with children his dog is.
Yes, picking children up isn't a good thing to do when faced with a dog, but you shouldn't be put in that position in the first place by an off-lead and uncontrolled dog. And he should keep it on its lead when it's anywhere near playgrounds.
If he thinks it's fine because those incidents 'only' happen once a month, that is shocking; once a month his dog causes a child and parent(s) to feel threatened and stressed? How is that 'not often' and how is it OK?
I'd contact the council about this, and any park management group you might have. His attitude is NOT OK and he, and anyone else who lets their dogs behave like this, needs telling. And censuring if it comes to it.

Shatenoeuf · 26/08/2026 14:30

Scaremongerer · 26/08/2026 14:26

avoid other people making the same potentially dangerous mistake

No. You calling a person picking up their child to protect them, a ‘mistake’ is putting the blame on the parent. The blame is entirely on the dog’s irresponsible owner.

This. The dog owner is always in the wrong. The safety of the child is more important. The mistake is the dog being off leash.

Maray1967 · 26/08/2026 14:33

TheHungryHungryLandsharks · 26/08/2026 13:58

I say this on every thread (and get yelled at on every thread - even though the advice is correct), but the worst thing you can do in these situations is pick a child (or dog) up. It's the one thing almost every trainer, vet, behaviourist and dog charity will tell you not to do - because it does excite dogs.

I know it's instinct, but I would really urge people to think before reacting as OP did. Not only do you excite the dog, you also leave yourself completely defenceless. You arms are wrapped around your child (or smaller dog) and you cannot defend yourself if you need. It's almost more likely that if a dog jumps at you, you will become unbalanced because you can't use your arms to steady yourself.

The best thing to do is be a barrier between your child/dog and the approaching dog.

Doesn't help as this situation has already happened, and I'm sorry it did, but I hope the above is helpful for if this happens again and to avoid other people making the same potentially dangerous mistake.

Edited

And how do you propose forming a barrier between the dog and a toddler? Are dogs so stupid that they don’t run round you to bother your child? Or are you supposed to spin round repeatedly and hope that your child doesn’t fall over behind you as you’re moving?

Your advice seems to presume that there is a wall close by. There won’t be a wall in the middle of the park.

Dog owners need to control their dogs.

Dearg · 26/08/2026 14:34

TheHungryHungryLandsharks · 26/08/2026 13:58

I say this on every thread (and get yelled at on every thread - even though the advice is correct), but the worst thing you can do in these situations is pick a child (or dog) up. It's the one thing almost every trainer, vet, behaviourist and dog charity will tell you not to do - because it does excite dogs.

I know it's instinct, but I would really urge people to think before reacting as OP did. Not only do you excite the dog, you also leave yourself completely defenceless. You arms are wrapped around your child (or smaller dog) and you cannot defend yourself if you need. It's almost more likely that if a dog jumps at you, you will become unbalanced because you can't use your arms to steady yourself.

The best thing to do is be a barrier between your child/dog and the approaching dog.

Doesn't help as this situation has already happened, and I'm sorry it did, but I hope the above is helpful for if this happens again and to avoid other people making the same potentially dangerous mistake.

Edited

This advice is only correct from the point of view of the dog owner. Yes , I know dog trainer etc tell the dog owners that they are working with that this is true.

What they should be telling dog owners is that, if they know their animal is overly friendly towards children, even if it’s ’only’ once a month, they should keep the dog on the lead, and, preferably stay away from children’s play areas.

I say that as a dog owner of Labradors, possibly the friendliest, clumsiest, most ‘in your face’ breed ever.

No responsible parent is going to stand by and watch an unknown dog leap at their child. Why on earth would they?

Dog owner is an absolute twat Op. Honestly, you were nicer than I would be.

muddyford · 26/08/2026 14:34

I've been a dog owner for forty years and I'm appalled by the man's behaviour. Once a month? None of mine have ever done that and I would be grovelling with apology if they had. I hope the marks have gone now and no fear of dogs develops.

WecanbeheroeslikeBowie · 26/08/2026 14:36

I go mental with the owner if a dog tries to /jumps up at me and let them know in no uncertain terms, but then I don't give a shit anyway.
The "He's only being friendly' always gets the same response from me "Well I'm not so take your dog and fuck off." If it upsets the owner I don't care Yes, I have anger issues around idiots. I don't care about that either.

MyKindHiker · 26/08/2026 14:36

This makes me FURIOUS. Having been cowed by dog owners who's dog bit my child in a restaurant (separate thread) I am still furious I didn't react more strongly. If this ever happens again take a photo of the owner, and the dog, and let them know you will be reporting the dog as a biter and NOT ONLY should the dog be on a lead, it should be wearing a muzzle.

BTW I am a dog lover and former dog owner. But this is insane. My old lab was quite bouncy when he was young - would never ever bite but I was aware he could scare people by rushing up to them and being too friendly - so I took him to empty places to let him run off the lead and would never ever let him off the leash in parks filled with kids.

giddyboo · 26/08/2026 14:42

Nousernameideaaga · 26/08/2026 13:51

YANBU

He was in the wrong.

(Said as dog owner)

Same.

DahliaSmith · 26/08/2026 14:43

I've had to grab a Labradoodle by the scruff of the neck and march it back about 400 yards to it's owner who was oblivious, stood chatting, and had no clue that it had been bothering a group of mums and children with a couple of dogs, who were also getting tired of it's bullshit.

I said, is this your dog, it needs to go on a lead, it's a nuisance. And she just looked at me, looked away and carried on chatting. Clueless.

MyKindHiker · 26/08/2026 14:45

WecanbeheroeslikeBowie · 26/08/2026 14:36

I go mental with the owner if a dog tries to /jumps up at me and let them know in no uncertain terms, but then I don't give a shit anyway.
The "He's only being friendly' always gets the same response from me "Well I'm not so take your dog and fuck off." If it upsets the owner I don't care Yes, I have anger issues around idiots. I don't care about that either.

Some dog owners are so bonkers though. A dog jumped up in a bark / growly way onto my 4 year old a while back and knocked him off his bike. Same thing from owners 'oh he just wants to play' even though my child was obviously terrified. I said the same thing to the owner, if he's jumping at kids in the park he should be on a leash.

I kid you not she BURST INTO TEARS and had to be comforted by her partner, sobbing that the dog was her baby and putting him on a leash would be so cruel when he's just a good boy really and I was horrible and rude. I mean, get a grip. I wasn't suggesting she shoot the thing. Just put on a leash in some specific places. Or train the creature not to jump on kids. Sigh.

Ooodelally · 26/08/2026 14:51

I’m a multiple dog owner and I think this man is an absolute twat. He’s put your child and other children at risk and, like so many tossers, he is giving the rest of us responsible dog owners a bad name. I hope your little one is ok and doesn’t become nervous of dogs as a result x

Onefairfish · 26/08/2026 14:59

It’s a shame that there isn’t an animal of the right size to bound up to the dog’s owner at the level of his face so that he could feel what it is like to be the toddler.

Lexy2345 · 26/08/2026 15:08

He was definitely in the wrong. As a dog owner, I never let either of my two (small, yappy, excitable) dogs off the lead, unless we are on a totally deserted beach in the evening. In parks and on footpaths, then they are securely on the lead and under my complete control. Both dogs have good recall but that's beside the point. It is up to all dog owners to remain in control of their animals at all times, especially in areas where there are other people, animals, small children etc.

WecanbeheroeslikeBowie · 26/08/2026 15:14

MyKindHiker · 26/08/2026 14:45

Some dog owners are so bonkers though. A dog jumped up in a bark / growly way onto my 4 year old a while back and knocked him off his bike. Same thing from owners 'oh he just wants to play' even though my child was obviously terrified. I said the same thing to the owner, if he's jumping at kids in the park he should be on a leash.

I kid you not she BURST INTO TEARS and had to be comforted by her partner, sobbing that the dog was her baby and putting him on a leash would be so cruel when he's just a good boy really and I was horrible and rude. I mean, get a grip. I wasn't suggesting she shoot the thing. Just put on a leash in some specific places. Or train the creature not to jump on kids. Sigh.

I enjoy it when these idiots cry because I'm being mean because I don't want to be friends with their snappy, jumping up, slobbering fucking 'baby' and yes, I actually laugh at them for being so stupid and pathetic after telling them so.

AllyOhly · 26/08/2026 15:15

Yanbu.

I had EXACTLY this scenario when dd was small. Dog off lead, owner has wandered along the path, and we were having a rest stop under the trees on the field. This big dog raced at ds age 3. Older dd started crying. I stepped in between ds and dog, it was repeatedly trying to get round me to reach him - even though ds did what I said and froze still and put his hands behind his back - and so I pushed the dog away with my foot.

The owner was trying to recall the dog the whole time and it was ignoring him. It only ran back to him when the owner was about 10m away.

I blasted the owner and said a dog like that shouldn’t be off a lead on a path where kids walk home from school, at 3.45pm. I was so shocked when he tried to play it down and said it was being friendly. How on earth can I know the intentions of this strange dog which was as tall as my son?

Afterwards when dd got over her crying and calmed down, she asked me if I kicked the dog and I said “I used my foot to push it away - never use your hands- and if a dog comes for you then you freeze, get your hands out of sight, don’t run. And if that doesn’t work you can curl up in a ball on the ground and tuck your face in.”

Then some other mum on the school run starts screeching at me about telling my kid to kick dogs - that I wasn’t fit to have children - and that she’s going to report me to the RSPCA! The whole thing was insane.

Anyway it’s a common problem where I lived. Bloody dog owners. It was probably a nice friendly dog with an arsehole owners.

Sadly my conclusion over the years has been no dogs should ever be allowed off the lead in suburban or urban areas. You should take your dog to dedicated dog walking areas or areas out of town eg woodland or fields where you’re unlikely to encounter kids.

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Noodlesmumm · 26/08/2026 15:18

This happened to me when I was 5, 60 years later im still nervous around dogs