AIBU to question Reform's plan to prioritise married couples for social housing?

[QueenSophia]

Reform have proposed to prioritise social housing for various groups : 'Rules would be changed to reserve at least half of all social homes in England for British-born workers aged under 35, with prioritisation also given to married couples, veterans, victims of domestic violence and care leavers.'

I agree with DV victims, those with children, care leavers : veterans are also at high risk of homelessness. But why prioritise married couples over single people? I'm not convinced that's fair. I assume it's to encourage marriage which is a good aim but I'm not convinced if this is the right decision.

It is a load of cobblers. But then again, they are being influenced by James Orr, who has US evangelicals pulling his strings alongside sweaty ham faced billionaire Peter Thiel, who's a pro-natalist, obsessed with making women parp out as many babies as possible, whether these are wanted or not. But hey, our role in life as women is just to be a vessel, isn't it, and never mind any other ambitions we might have.

They shouldn’t have to, however if they want their relationship to be recognised by the state in other ways it’s sort of part of the deal, no?

They could make a start on the housing problem by making Farage give up 4 of the 5 properties he owns. Perhaps he could live in Clacton.

So a disabled adult being housed by the council? Not sure how that’s disproving my point.
Disabled adults already receive additional appoints when trying to claim housing vs an able bodied single adult, and rightly so. That doesn’t mean an able bodied single adult “deserves” to be housed in a 2 bedroom at the expense of the council.

How would people prioritise? However you do it someone is going to be aggrieved .

I would say, as is frequently pointed out on MN, that if you intend to have children, it’s always advisable to get married to protect your rights should you ever separate.

Veterans already get priority over almost everyone. The homeless ones on the street have problems that prevent them settling into a secure home. It's all very sad, but it's also very difficult to help them.

www.theguardian.com/law/2017/nov/28/unmarried-woman-wins-legal-battle-over-bereavement-damages

They said on the lunchtime news that it was married couples with children - Reform want everyone to have lots of kids anyway

he needs adaptations which have been refused. and its not bloody subsidised.

Of course council housing is subsidised, otherwise everyone in them would rent privately. What a ridiculous claim.

Well it seems to be recognised by the state when it comes to council tax JSA Universal Credit. but im sure you didnt mean to be hypocritical

Well thats part of being in a society isnt it. Child free ppl subsidise parents People with big careers get subsidised by care workers on minimum wage caring for their elderly relatives so their career isnt disturbed. then theres childcare

It seems strange that Nigel Farage is not announcing this considering his massive win the other week. Come to think of it I have not seen him do an interview since the by-election. Where is he??

Sadly it is.

Then those same care workers get vilified for living in social housing told its subsidised and that they should be grateful

You’re the one who claimed it wasn’t subsidised.

Do you have a cleaner? do you pay her enough so that she can buy her own property

No I don’t have a cleaner. What’s your point? Are you going to try to claim it’s some moral failing that I won’t hire a cleaner so they can buy a house?

I’m in my late 60s and when I was a child many people, especially widowed women, took in lodgers. Paid the bills, people had a cooked meal to come home too, and was company for all.
Now people often live alone. One space, one person.
I was in a smallish Wiltshire town today, which had a noticeable amount of above shop property empty. Imagine is there was some encouragement to make this housing.
There used to be police houses, nurses homes, hotel staff living in….
there world wouldn’t be so difficult to change.

Perhaps childcare should double in costs so child minders can afford to buy a good property.

See how bringing up subsidies was a gotcha But not in the direction you thought it would be @Midnightmoonface

DH is a veteran, The military covenant is already in place so, theoretically, they take priority on the social housing list. I disagree with it as a general rule.

When you leave the forces, after a full career, (I’m not sure when it kicks in) you get a tax free, lump sum of three times your annual pension. Whenever they attend housing briefs in their final years they’re told they should be thinking about using that rather than running straight to the council.

I know one family, who lived in service families accommodation for his whole career but didn’t save a penny. Instead they had 12 children. When it came to him leaving they couldn’t get a mortgage, obviously, she didn’t work, so they went to the council. They did get given a 6 bed house, not in the area she wanted, but she had no choice to take it. It was that or be made homeless. He has a very low paying job, now, she still doesn’t work, but they want to move back “home” to where their parents live. They can’t afford a private rent or a mortgage so he’s been to the new council expecting them to use the military covenant, again, and push him up the list. Every single week he moans he hasn’t been given another house and it’s not fair. It literally boils my blood. Meanwhile he was given around £45k around 3yrs ago which they pissed up the wall.

So many people think that veterans are chucked out of the military on their last day, completely penniless without any help at all but it’s really not like that.

Personally I agree with the policy to prioritise veterans. Not many legal jobs you go to accepting that you might not come home, or come home with serious physical disability. Not many jobs I'd less like my child to sign up for as a mother. I agree all those other occupations are admirable/dangerous too though.

There’s something going on with Farage. Didn’t he have an operation recently? Perhaps he is still recovering. Their difficulty is that Reform is still a one man show. It’s game over for them if Farage quits.

I did not know this @TheFairyCaravan