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AIBU to question Reform's plan to prioritise married couples for social housing?

317 replies

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 14:01

Reform have proposed to prioritise social housing for various groups : 'Rules would be changed to reserve at least half of all social homes in England for British-born workers aged under 35, with prioritisation also given to married couples, veterans, victims of domestic violence and care leavers.'

I agree with DV victims, those with children, care leavers : veterans are also at high risk of homelessness. But why prioritise married couples over single people? I'm not convinced that's fair. I assume it's to encourage marriage which is a good aim but I'm not convinced if this is the right decision.

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Shedsqueek · 24/08/2026 19:51

Probably irrelevant as they will never get in.

allthiscarryon · 24/08/2026 19:58

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 19:38

Surely legally it would need to unless Reform want to repeal gay marriage? I doubt that.

Given how homophobic they are I’m sure they would
love to if they thought they could get away with it x

paddleboardingmum · 24/08/2026 20:13

It's both a way to demonise single mums, perhaps popular with the Daily Mail/GB News crowd, and a way to make women stay in marriages irrespective of how they are treated. Which fits in with their rolling back of maternity rights etc. plans too.

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 20:17

paddleboardingmum · 24/08/2026 20:13

It's both a way to demonise single mums, perhaps popular with the Daily Mail/GB News crowd, and a way to make women stay in marriages irrespective of how they are treated. Which fits in with their rolling back of maternity rights etc. plans too.

Rolling back of maternity rights? What policies are these?

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JesseDavisGonnaHangOnInThereNSoul · 24/08/2026 20:18

More piss spouting from the pish fountain.
Ain't going to happen
Not dissimilar to the BNP rhetoric of the 90s.

abracadabra1980 · 24/08/2026 20:27

I agree with you and don't think married couples should have priority either. I feel sorry for boys/men. Women rightly get priority if they have children; men-nothing.

BermudaRhombus · 24/08/2026 20:33

JesseDavisGonnaHangOnInThereNSoul · 24/08/2026 20:18

More piss spouting from the pish fountain.
Ain't going to happen
Not dissimilar to the BNP rhetoric of the 90s.

Not dissimilar, but much more dangerous. Far more people are falling for it.

pointythings · 24/08/2026 20:37

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 20:17

Rolling back of maternity rights? What policies are these?

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Well, they want to leave the ECHR. And the ECHR makes it illegal to fire women for being pregnant. Given the fact that Pregnant Then Screwed are still very much in business, anything that increases the risk of discrimination against pregnant women is not desirable.

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2026 20:39

pointythings · 24/08/2026 20:37

Well, they want to leave the ECHR. And the ECHR makes it illegal to fire women for being pregnant. Given the fact that Pregnant Then Screwed are still very much in business, anything that increases the risk of discrimination against pregnant women is not desirable.

And repeal the equalities act

JenniferBooth · 24/08/2026 20:40

abracadabra1980 · 24/08/2026 20:27

I agree with you and don't think married couples should have priority either. I feel sorry for boys/men. Women rightly get priority if they have children; men-nothing.

@MrsTerryPratchett posted an example of men getting priority and why.

And its not what you mean @abracadabra1980 its the person WITH THE CHILDREN who gets priority. its nothing to do with gender.

There are plenty of single women without kids living in HMOs

Plmnki · 24/08/2026 20:48

errrr it’s reform. They are basically racists and fascists.

but you think they should be fair?

are you mad? Look up the T4 programme, it’s their next step.

why are you giving them the time of day? They should be shunned like the nazis they are, not have their policies subjected to ernest debate. Jesus wept.

JesseDavisGonnaHangOnInThereNSoul · 24/08/2026 20:54

BermudaRhombus · 24/08/2026 20:33

Not dissimilar, but much more dangerous. Far more people are falling for it.

Back in the 90s their reach was small.
Po box numbers
Paper sales
Stickers
Now with internet that same message reaches a wider audience.
The methods change but the message remains the same

ClarkeandNewman · 24/08/2026 21:07

Midnightmoonface · 24/08/2026 17:37

So a disabled adult being housed by the council? Not sure how that’s disproving my point.
Disabled adults already receive additional appoints when trying to claim housing vs an able bodied single adult, and rightly so. That doesn’t mean an able bodied single adult “deserves” to be housed in a 2 bedroom at the expense of the council.

I don't think you understand how council/social housing works since you've described it as subsidised and at the expense of the council.

Theworldsgonemadagain · 24/08/2026 21:08

I think they should scrap social housing fullstop. Everyone has to provide for themselves, no handouts. In other countries family's help each other out more. It's not down to taxpayers to subsidise poor choices and caring responsiblities should come down to the family. Here old people get chucked in a care home, kids have kids to get council houses and refugees come in and sponge off the state. It's a joke. I'd stop the whole lot.

XenoBitch · 24/08/2026 21:14

Theworldsgonemadagain · 24/08/2026 21:08

I think they should scrap social housing fullstop. Everyone has to provide for themselves, no handouts. In other countries family's help each other out more. It's not down to taxpayers to subsidise poor choices and caring responsiblities should come down to the family. Here old people get chucked in a care home, kids have kids to get council houses and refugees come in and sponge off the state. It's a joke. I'd stop the whole lot.

Many people in social housing work and pay rent.

ClarkeandNewman · 24/08/2026 21:14

Last month Electoral Calculus predicted Reform's chances of winning a majority at the next GE at 2%.

I don't think we need to worry about their stupid, unworkable, crypto-fascistic Farage wank fantasy "policies".

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 21:14

pointythings · 24/08/2026 20:37

Well, they want to leave the ECHR. And the ECHR makes it illegal to fire women for being pregnant. Given the fact that Pregnant Then Screwed are still very much in business, anything that increases the risk of discrimination against pregnant women is not desirable.

Sorry, I'd forgotten that. No, don't like the sound of that...

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Backedoffhackedoff · 24/08/2026 21:15

Theworldsgonemadagain · 24/08/2026 21:08

I think they should scrap social housing fullstop. Everyone has to provide for themselves, no handouts. In other countries family's help each other out more. It's not down to taxpayers to subsidise poor choices and caring responsiblities should come down to the family. Here old people get chucked in a care home, kids have kids to get council houses and refugees come in and sponge off the state. It's a joke. I'd stop the whole lot.

Thank god you’re not in charge or we’d be back in Victorian times

Minasama · 24/08/2026 21:16

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 16:52

'. I do think it’s just so sad how many of my daughters’ friends have no dads. '

  • this is really sad. I definitely think something needs to be done : I'm just not convinced prioritising married couples for social housing is it.

Can I ask : what are the main reasons (I understand you may not know) why your daughter's friends' dads are absent? Because they are uninterested? Feel they would be worse off financially if they committed? The mothers didn't want to commit? Other reasons?

I don’t know details. We moved from the south east to a much less well off part of the Midlands and I’m just really surprised how many of the kids are brought up by mum (generally a superstar) and dad not in the picture. This was far less common where we were before. Not saying it didn’t happen there but was like two people out of two classes worth of kids. Not a good proportion of my kids’ friends like here.

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 21:17

Theworldsgonemadagain · 24/08/2026 21:08

I think they should scrap social housing fullstop. Everyone has to provide for themselves, no handouts. In other countries family's help each other out more. It's not down to taxpayers to subsidise poor choices and caring responsiblities should come down to the family. Here old people get chucked in a care home, kids have kids to get council houses and refugees come in and sponge off the state. It's a joke. I'd stop the whole lot.

Take a look at the elderly parents board. Loads of women, mostly, straining their health, mental & physical, to care for elderly parents. People are not as callous to elderly as you are painting them.

I'd also recommend this book :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Who-Cares-Hidden-Crisis-Caregiving/dp/1472288483

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ClarkeandNewman · 24/08/2026 21:18

Oh yes, mentioned the c-o word again. Thanks MN for taking a perfectly usable term out of use.

Basically I said Electoral Calculus predicted Reform's chances of forming a majority government at the next GE at 2%. Forgot to add, this was pre- Farage humiliation at his tantrum throwing by-election. Could be even lower now.

So no need to worry about Reform's stupid, unworkable crapto-fascistic Farage wank fantasy "policies". If there was an election tomorrow they'd be c 200 seats short of a majority.

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2026 21:21

Theworldsgonemadagain · 24/08/2026 21:08

I think they should scrap social housing fullstop. Everyone has to provide for themselves, no handouts. In other countries family's help each other out more. It's not down to taxpayers to subsidise poor choices and caring responsiblities should come down to the family. Here old people get chucked in a care home, kids have kids to get council houses and refugees come in and sponge off the state. It's a joke. I'd stop the whole lot.

Yeah, all those people getting £5m hand outs.

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 21:22

Minasama · 24/08/2026 21:16

I don’t know details. We moved from the south east to a much less well off part of the Midlands and I’m just really surprised how many of the kids are brought up by mum (generally a superstar) and dad not in the picture. This was far less common where we were before. Not saying it didn’t happen there but was like two people out of two classes worth of kids. Not a good proportion of my kids’ friends like here.

I see, thank you. I think prioritising married couples for housing could help this but there needs to be wider work on these issues. Council housing priority could give men extra incentive to marry but the motivation needs to be intrinsic too (plus issues of jobs etc being so unstable)

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ClarkeandNewman · 24/08/2026 21:23

Midnightmoonface · 24/08/2026 18:09

What on earth are you talking about? You claimed social housing wasn’t subsidised.
“and its not bloody subsidised”
There’s no gotcha, you’re making up a whole load a random shit that isn’t relevant or wasn’t commented on by me.
I merely said of course social housing is subsidised, that’s the entire point of its existence.
Childcare is no business of mine, it’s you trying to make weird gotchas with your relentless childcare/cleaner nonsense that isn’t linked to anything I’ve said.

Sadly for you, social housing is not subsidised. Well, not by landlords. Tenants' rent pays for it to be built/bought and maintained so perhaps they are doing the subsidising?

Minasama · 24/08/2026 21:28

QueenSophia · 24/08/2026 21:22

I see, thank you. I think prioritising married couples for housing could help this but there needs to be wider work on these issues. Council housing priority could give men extra incentive to marry but the motivation needs to be intrinsic too (plus issues of jobs etc being so unstable)

Yes I agree - it feels as if it could be abused. I’d really like to know if this is a properly researched proposal with any evidence to suggest what problem exactly it might solve and how, or just someone’s sudden inspiration with nothing behind it.

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