AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK? PART 2

[CoventryCity]

'Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK

UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.'

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

Previous thread here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5568695-aibu-to-think-if-we-need-to-politely-ask-men-not-to-rape-women-or-men-then-we-dont-want-such-people-in-the-uk?page=40&reply=154338993&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Yes there does. It’ll take time, and there’ll be opposition from some convinced women should just gloss over it, but it’s needed and would be worth it.

I think we’re seen as in the wrong by some, we shouldn’t mind.

I couldn’t disagree more, especially for anyone with DDs.

Yes. The deletion message said thanks for the reportS, so all of the disgusted from cambridge etc had reported it. My fault for posting here that I was going to post about the labour stats blocking.

Soon as it went up there was a veritable flurry of votes for YABU - immediately - which is unusual.

As you said @Nuthatch26 they could tell us why they reported of course. What was wrong with the Telegraph article, about families of victims of asylum seeker crimes, asking for the data about asylum seeker crime rates to be released? What is wrong with the article about Lammy blocking freedom of information requests about crime data?

Lammy fighting to ‘cover up’ foreigners’ crimes
Ministry of Justice taking legal action to avoid publishing conviction data broken down by nationality

https://archive.ph/FdEri

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/25/migrant-crime-wave-cover-up-must-be-stopped-say-victims/

https://archive.ph/eihr8 archive link

Migrant crime wave cover-up must be stopped, say victims
Justice Secretary told the public has a right to know ‘full impact’ of immigration on crime

An attempted cover-up of the extent of crimes committed by foreigners must be ended, victims of murders and sex assaults by migrants have told ministers.
The Government is trying to prevent the publication of data revealing the full scale of foreign offending in England and Wales from 2018 to 2024.

Eleven families of victims of crimes carried out by migrants – including high-profile killings and sex assaults – have written to Alex Norris, the Justice Secretary, urging him to drop plans to use the courts to block the data’s release.

Shocking isn't it. I guess their white savoir complex over rides all. Even our daughters' safety.

Can we all support Katie Lam MP who is vainly trying to draw attention to it?

What is the Govt’s reasoning for withholding the stats? Well, we know the real reason - but what is the official line?

From the article posted above:-
The MoJ initially refused, saying that to gather the data would be too expensive and that publishing the information could lead to the identification of individuals in breach of their rights to privacy.Both arguments were rejected by the information watchdog. However, The Telegraph revealed last month that David Lammy, then justice secretary, sanctioned legal action seeking to overturn this ruling.

I’m not sure they have one? I’d have to look.

So far just stonewalling and gaslighting the public seems to be their go to.

Katie Lam is expected to be promoted to the shadow front bench in the next couple of months. Hopefully she'll keep going.

Interesting thanks for this

I have said many times that the pro-migrant - nay, pro- violent criminal migrant people have no children. Of course many people have no children for one reason or another, but there is this sub-set of very left-wing women (young and old) whose victim top trumps places female safety way below the rights of violent foreign men.

Any data to back up this (rather misogynistic) assertion?

Throughout history, childfree women have been treated with suspicion and blamed for the world's ills. Seeing that perpetuated on MN is rather depressing. Pass the ducking stool, eh?

Yes, I think there are plenty of women who subscribe to the 'progressive' cause of open borders and who would be against any highlighting of crime stats by migrant men. There are lots of women like this in the BBC, msm, academia, politics, the arts, publishing, criminal justice system etc. They are the same ones who believe TWAW and there's a lot of them, unfortunately.

I think there are many but some do have dc still.

In my experience it's to do with ideology and class. Middle class women are more likely to be supportive of male asylum seekers and migrants as they don't live with the consequences of these policies. If women are left wing and 'progressive' they'll support the male asylum seekers and migrants too because that's their ideology.

Yeah. These women who prioritise a relentless arrival of unknown undocumented young male immigrants from countries where sexual violence against women is not unusual, where women are second class citizens, are racist without question.

These women think that ‘people of colour’ can‘t be victimised as they think they are always the victims, by nature of the fact they are not white. The oppressor is the white person no matter what. It’s idiotic. And unforgivable when the safety of women and girls is at risk.

As Hirsi Ali said ‘We know there are places where white people, have never set foot that people of colour have been oppressing people of colour. Black people have oppressed black people. I come from Somalia. We had a period of 20 years of rule by a tyrant who is of my clan, and he had massacred hundreds of thousands of Somalis, and then we descended into civil war, and it was Somalis killing Somalis. And the same goes for everywhere. Syrians killing Syrian; Iraqis killing Iraqis; Arabs killing Arabs; Muslims killing Muslims.’

Luxury beliefs is a phrase I see often. It's not wrong.

Plus it’s tied to Labour, and other policies are prioritised over women.

Oh yes. standard. The most misogynistic racist party of all.

How many female leaders have they had?*

How many people of colour leaders have they had?*

Women have left the Labour party due to their misogyny. Trade Unions are one of the most misogynistic organisations in the public eye. It's no surprise they are huge TWAW proponents.

But I digress.

*zero on both counts. They are a pale male stale party through and through. They don't even represent workers anymore. They represent non workers. Why they have a loyal female fan base always puzzles me.

There's the proven antisemitism from the labour party as well, of course.

Funny how so many lefties like to bury that, while calling people racists.