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To dislike the vitriol on here about their return

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VictoriaSpunge · Yesterday 09:10

Just read through two different threads about their return to this country and I could feel my energy draining the more I read the comments.
There is so much vitriol and lots of snidy remarks in the comments.
Why not just leave them be, let them get on with their lives and wish them well?

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Victorius19 · Yesterday 20:03

I think they're an appalling example of what too much money, privilege and entitlement does to you.

Almost as much of a disappointment as King Charles is turning out to be.

rubyrued · Yesterday 20:07

It makes me embarrassed to say I go on MNs tbh. It’s fine to dislike them but the obsession, it’s deranged

Armorlux · Yesterday 20:19

Victorius19 · Yesterday 20:03

I think they're an appalling example of what too much money, privilege and entitlement does to you.

Almost as much of a disappointment as King Charles is turning out to be.

Apart from producing Harry, what's he done / not done that disappoints you?

likelysuspect · Yesterday 20:24

Zimunya · Yesterday 09:22

Agree with you, OP. Of course, the usual advice of not reading through the thread applies, but there really does seem to be immense bad feeling against Harry and Meghan.

You'd think they're mass murderers the way people go on about them. And their family.

Out of all the poeple in the world who do or are bad things, the Royal Family are way down on the list.

summater · Yesterday 20:25

I will be annoyed if the get taxpayer funded security while living their private lives.

BEAchDays2 · Yesterday 20:25

It’s utter madness, and horrifying the fact that the threads and comments would probably actually outweigh the ones about Andrew… 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠

CurlewKate · Yesterday 20:30

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 09:50

Don’t forget the left-wing ignorance and hate, it’s plentiful.

Tell me more about the left wing ignorance and hate?

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · Yesterday 20:32

I agree OP. I don’t get the fascination with Harry and Meghan nor the vitriol. I’ve never met them and aren’t likely to, so their impact on my life is negligible. But I wish them well.

CurlewKate · Yesterday 20:33

Nicewoman · Yesterday 19:45

Because the Markles are No. Shit stirrers of the world. MeGain deliberately made up vile nasty lies about Kate accusing her of being racist.

Markle deliberately lied about everything & trapped the dimwit drug addled prince. She basically forced him into marriage.

She’s a spendthrift who whilst in the royal family for basically a year blew huge sums on designer clothes, beauty treatments, private jets. More than anyone in the history of the royal family.

She’s grubby: she was bitchily moaning about her lot 24/7. Accused the RF of stealing her passport. Then she blows the budget on a baby shower to New York when the royal family had “stolen” her passport. Yet every weekend she was swanning around Europe at luxury resorts. Not for her owning a cement factory in Scunthorpe. It only had to be gala events with her dripping in jewels.

The only event she seemed to do was flog her own cookbook of ripped off recipes when she visited Grenfell survivors. A total smack in the face.

She had a massive foreign jolly going to Africa where she moaned & complained the whole time she was just surviving against a crowd of Africans who were genuinely starving. The fact they waited hours in the rain was nothing to Markle.

in Australia she threw boiling water over courtiers & humiliated them, because they wouldn’t do what she wanted.

she then said she should be paid for doing tours.

She constantly quotes her mother Doria, saying don’t do anything for free.

She constantly lied about her back history.

Abandoned her dad because she didn’t want a poor fat slob as a father, despite him paying for everything for her.

The Markels have a massive turnover of staff both here and in the US, as they are tight, don’t pay their bills, treat everyone like shit & abuse people.

All their A listers have run away from them.

They’ve been sacked by everyone.

Spotify called them “fucking grifters” and a massive long rant saying they were bone idle, zero talent, ripped off other ideas, immensely stupid couple, aggressive complainers, con artists and rip off merchants.

Thats even before we get on to their immense fakery and them pretending they are the nice people in the whole world & such righteous humanitarians, eco warriors etc.

I could go on and on and on about just how vile, odious and nasty that couple are.

I remember when the queen was dying and Prince Philip was 2 weeks from death, Megain said he was “making it all up for attention”. When the queen talked about service, Markle said “everyone does service”

The fact the hard pressed British taxpayers had to pay £33m for her 3rd wedding where she was doing this ridiculous innocent virginal teenage act, instead of the divorced washed up mattress actress of a cancelled cable show, was appalling. After all that money spent, she then said she got married 3 days before, and “whatever”. The holiest man in the country then had to correct her as what she said was illegal.

I recall seeing on camera at an event, the Queen and Markle in a car and Markle actually pushing the Queen out the way as she raced towards the crowds to give autographs.

Then the pathetic curtesying to the Queen.

Harry & Megain refusing to go to a special veterans event so the pair of them could flog Markle for Disney work. Even Beyoncé was gobsmacked. Her jaw dropped in outrage.

Gosh. I didn’t realise there were people on here who actually shared their lives an witnessed so much!

LilyBunch25 · Yesterday 20:34

Voted YABU because, don't read it all then 👍

Minasama · Yesterday 20:34

Agree OP, I’m quite happy Harry and his children will be back here. Although she’s a bit of a pain admittedly.

Empress13 · Yesterday 20:35

Don’t really care but would love to be a fly on the wall in the Wales’ residence

Pedallleur · Yesterday 20:36

Victorius19 · Yesterday 20:03

I think they're an appalling example of what too much money, privilege and entitlement does to you.

Almost as much of a disappointment as King Charles is turning out to be.

What did you expect from him? Surely he is following in his mother's footsteps.

Fromthecookiejar · Yesterday 20:39

YABU to post yet another thread about this topic.

MNLurker1345 · Yesterday 20:40

I am really happy that they are returning and wish them and their family all the best.

Really all you haters, don’t believe everything you read in the press. It is 6 of one and half dz of the other.

Give the woman a break!

I do hope to see them in the media, standing beside Will and Kate, Charles and Camilla as is their rightful place. And the children growing up together.

Because despite what the haters hope, I am sure the reported vitriol isn’t as such. Look at your own families. It can be difficult but estrangement always come with more pain than hatred.

They are family!

panomara · Yesterday 20:42

It's a great move, and about time someone roused the RF from their superior slumber and shook things up a bit. What a time to be alive!

envbeckyc · Yesterday 20:44

Vintlet · Yesterday 09:25

They are setting up their own court. They are bound to be a distraction to the Royal Family. There was a reason why the Duke of Windsor lived quietly in France after abdication. Lots of posters on here claim to be republicans but then get excited when there was the suggestion that if Trump annexed Canada, Harry and Meghan could be King and Queen of Canada.
California hasn’t worked out for them. America hasn’t offered them the role of King and Queen of America. Harry certainly still wants to be part of the Royal Family. He misses the lifestyle. They won’t live quietly. There will be a Daily Mail story about them everyday .

Goodness me…. I don’t know where to begin with your post!

Trump annexing Canada (Never going to happen) would not result in Canada having a US backed royal family! The US is very much a ‘no monarchy’ country!

Canada is already part of the territory that has a British Monarch….and Royal Family which Harry & Megan are a part of even if they are not ‘working royals’

I think it’s well known that Harry & Megan have avoided anything to do with Trump and the Republicans, rather it’s well documented that they have made donations to the Democrats, and organisations supported by prominent Democrats.

Finally, the Duke of Windsor didn’t live out his whole life in France, because he was a Nazi sympathiser at best, or a Nazi …. If you are being more honest!

Captured German foreign ministry records (the Marburg Files) recovered after the war revealed that the Duke maintained contact with fascist agents.

Wartime telegrams suggested the Nazis planned to use the Duke in a scheme (Operation Willi) to reinstall him on the British throne as a puppet king if Germany successfully invaded Britain.

Some historians suggest the Duke leaked Allied defense plans while serving in France in 1940.

To neutralise the security risk and remove him from the European theatre, Prime Minister Winston Churchill appointed the Duke as Governor of the Bahamas in July 1940.

https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/the-passionate-eye/historians-believe-the-duke-of-windsor-actively-collaborated-with-the-nazis-during-the-second-world-war-1.6635225

Basically he didn’t come back because his Team lost World War 2, as he would have been lynched if people found out what he had done!

Didimum · Yesterday 20:44

Bollihobs · Yesterday 09:22

Why not just leave them be, let them get on with their lives and wish them well?

Because if that's not how someone feels it isn't going to be what they express is it? Not rocket science. It's in the news and people feel as they feel. As always, opinions you don't agree with aren't invalid, each to their own.

People have lost their lives due to media whipped up public hatred towards them. How utterly ridiculous to boil it down to ‘well people feel how they feel’. It’s a dangerous, vicious, parasocial problem, and it’s about time more was done to control it.

mathanxiety · Yesterday 20:48

Nousernameideaaga · Yesterday 09:23

You can dislike whatever you want 🤷🏻‍♀️

Dislike doesn't scratch the surface of it.

There's a seething hatred, out and unashamed.

I'd like to see posters sign their posts with their real names. It's far too easy to hide thia ugliness behind a username.

Filoparcels017 · Yesterday 20:50

Halafel · Yesterday 09:26

I mean they have stirred up an awful lot of trouble for this country, or at least the establishment in this country. It is baffling why they now want to return to a place that has apparently treated them so awfully.

What are they supposed to have done that’s so bad exactly?

I am not a particular fan of any of them tbh but the country’s vitriol should be reserved for AMW surely?

And it’s quite depressing that everyone just repeats what is printed and broadcast in the right wing press and it’s somehow inconceivable that a woman with a black mother might have found some of her experiences within the RF to be bordering on racist?

And why is there such condemnation for a Californian, divorced, financially independent, mixed race, actress, who has always earned her own money, and knows her own mind, for finding joining possibly one of the most traditional and hide bound, white, elitist families and institutions in the country, a bit challenging, and why was it so bad that she made that clear? After all lots of UK born people who marry in find it challenging whether they are aristocrats or middle class gals from Berkshire.

The RF’s values are completely skewed imho!

They protect AMW for fifteen years and even pay off his accuser to the tune of £12 million bc AMW keeps quiet.

And they pretend to support a police investigation in to AMW’s alleged crimes, while according to Lownie, reminding former staff and PPOs of their NDAs and terms of their pensions so that they don’t speak to the police presumably, and BP are allegedly paying their lawyers to lean on potential witnesses so they stay quiet too.

And bc Harry and Meghan air a few possibly legitimate complaints in public about the RF eg I certainly think the press briefing complaints hold weight, they are ostracised and briefed against even more?

It’s all really bizarre if you ask me!

The RF must be laughing loudly at how easily the public are distracted away from AMW’s case while all of the attention is on H&M!

Nicewoman · Yesterday 20:54

Empress13 · Yesterday 20:35

Don’t really care but would love to be a fly on the wall in the Wales’ residence

I imagine the conversation went “omg, those cucking funts are coming back!!” We absolutely need to remove the Sussexes titles, succession, counsellor of state. Call Sir David to implement this asap”

5dollah · Yesterday 20:57

I'm not from the UK so it doesn't affect me but if I was I know I would be a staunch republican. Royals all seem a waste of space to me.

sittingonabeach · Yesterday 20:59

They made a big song and dance about leaving, slagged off his family in a very public way, continually said it wasn’t safe here and then suddenly they make a big announcement they are coming back. Of course people are going to comment on it and if they were so negative about everything then people might react negatively about them coming back.

panomara · Yesterday 21:06

Maybe there should be a D notice on anything related to them now. If not reported on, it will soon not be spoken about. Media - social, print, TV, and audio are responsible for the majority of the whipping up of vitriol and comment about them.

I mean who really cares all that much. It is becoming a hysterical contagion because outlets like the Mail constantly report crap about them. Again who cares?

People are being manipulated and whipped into a frenzy about a little family and a bigger more powerful one, when the reality is they are a microcosm of a lot of families up and down the land anyway.

tommyhoundmum · Yesterday 21:10

Halafel · Yesterday 09:26

I mean they have stirred up an awful lot of trouble for this country, or at least the establishment in this country. It is baffling why they now want to return to a place that has apparently treated them so awfully.

Home is where you go when no one else wants you.

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