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AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK?

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bobbyydazzler · 19/08/2026 20:26

Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK
UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

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NormasArse · Yesterday 00:09

Admittedly, I do live in a mainly white area, but the only men I have felt intimidated by, have been harassed by, and actually sexually assaulted and raped (yes, raped) by, are white.

I imagine my experiences are mirrored by many other women.

Nellodee · Yesterday 06:15

21% of those arrested in race riots have since been reported to the police for domestic abuse. Shame we can’t deport them.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 06:49

NancyThompson · 20/08/2026 23:06

Indeed. And looking at Rome, invasion from the Germanic tribes wasn't the only reason it fell, but it was a big contributing factor.
Already weakened, they couldn't expel the Goths who had, ironically, entered the Empire seeking asylum from the Huns. A weakened Rome didn't handle things properly and eventually lost a war to these "New Romans".

Quite the cautionary tale.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_War_(376%E2%80%93382)

Fascinating stuff.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 06:50

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 00:40

I read today two Afghan men raped a girl while she was on a date stargazing. They held a knife to her dates throat as they took turns suffocating her.

Cultural enrichment they say.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16067431/Illegal-immigrants-raped-woman-knifepoint-star-gazing.html

Civil unrest is a ticking time bomb away.

RoseandVioletCreams · Yesterday 07:03

@EmeraldShamrock000 I saw that also and the one in Feb the girl in the train to Kent.

RoseandVioletCreams · Yesterday 07:04

Nellodee · Yesterday 06:15

21% of those arrested in race riots have since been reported to the police for domestic abuse. Shame we can’t deport them.

Shame our prisons are so full that even if we lock them away they won't serve full sentences and we are gladly importing even more sex offenders on top....shame.

autumnwitch4 · Yesterday 07:05

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 00:40

I read today two Afghan men raped a girl while she was on a date stargazing. They held a knife to her dates throat as they took turns suffocating her.

Cultural enrichment they say.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16067431/Illegal-immigrants-raped-woman-knifepoint-star-gazing.html

Absolutely disgusting. And there is no way that guy is a teenager, he looks at least mid-late 20s.

NancyThompson · Yesterday 07:29

This lovely man is on his way to enrich Edinburgh! Although his interests are somewhat limited to "fucking", according to the man himself.

https://x.com/PatrickChristys/status/2090430135119806480

Patrick Christys (@PatrickChristys) on X

Quick! Someone give this Somali man a Home Office brochure! That’ll sort him out.

https://x.com/PatrickChristys/status/2090430135119806480

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 07:34

NancyThompson · Yesterday 07:29

This lovely man is on his way to enrich Edinburgh! Although his interests are somewhat limited to "fucking", according to the man himself.

https://x.com/PatrickChristys/status/2090430135119806480

But but it's GBN..that's what you will get to downplay this. Yes, GBN is a fucking God send. Good luck Scotland.

Swearwolf · Yesterday 07:45

Kingdomofsleep · 19/08/2026 20:50

Actually I think it might be to prevent foreigners using ignorance of the law as a defence. So it's not intended to prevent any crimes but to make it easier to prosecute

Yes, it’s exactly this!

NancyThompson · Yesterday 07:54

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 07:34

But but it's GBN..that's what you will get to downplay this. Yes, GBN is a fucking God send. Good luck Scotland.

It's okay though because he'll get his leaflet.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 07:56

NancyThompson · Yesterday 07:54

It's okay though because he'll get his leaflet.

Yep, that nice bit of advisory stuff on a trivial thing like consent.

Clydebuilt · Yesterday 08:09

Soupdragon41 · 19/08/2026 22:06

How else would you cure a broken leg? Plaster cast is the usual treatment! No idea what you are saying here

I assume they meant band-aid…

aberamagold · Yesterday 08:22

takealettermsjones · 19/08/2026 21:21

Well, I'd equate it more to trying to stop further broken legs by teaching people how to do things properly.

The fact is that we're obligated by international law to provide safe refuge to people who need it, and qualify. Sometimes those people come from places with laws similar to ours, and sometimes (a lot of the time) they don't. Many can be taught our ways, and some can't. If we shut the door on the many because of the actions of the few, we'd be in breach of international laws and we'd be abandoning many people to serious harm and/or death.

The same argument can be applied to many situations, not just asylum. Shall we, for instance, ban all dogs because some of them kill? Should we put a curfew on all men because some of them attack women?

You seem to be under the misapprehension that ‘international laws’ are as binding and immutable as laws of nature, rather than being just agreements we can reject or ignore if they’re not in our national interests.

We are not morally responsible for sheltering every random bloke from some violent, misogynistic shit hole of a country who chooses to rock up here.

autumnwitch4 · Yesterday 08:35

What I really don’t understand about lefties, is they generally say ‘the problem is men, not migrants’ but their solution to this is to welcome in more men.

The rest of us know full well that you can get bad men everywhere, including ‘home grown’, which is why we don’t want more of them.

Population split in this country is about 51% women and 49% men and has been for a long time. I’m not sure society functions so well when/if men become the majority.

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 08:43

@takealettermsjones - so do you think then that the assaults/rapes that take place are a small price to pay for saving the men who claim asylum here?

Do you think the leaflet is a good idea or unnecessary, given the majority are upstanding individuals?

Do you believe that cultural differences is a reasonable defence?

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bobbyydazzler · Yesterday 08:57

These men must not have read the guidance either.

Two illegal immigrants raped a woman at knifepoint while she was star gazing in a park during a 'harrowing attack'.

Afghanis Khan Agah and Noorullah Ahmdzai treated their victim as an 'object they could use and abuse' on August 16 last year in Barking Park, east London, a court heard.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16067431/Illegal-immigrants-raped-woman-knifepoint-star-gazing.html

Two illegal immigrants raped woman at knifepoint while she star gazed

Afghanis Khan Agah and Noorullah Ahmdzai treated their victim as an 'object they could use and abuse' on August 16 last year in Barking Park, east London, a court heard.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16067431/Illegal-immigrants-raped-woman-knifepoint-star-gazing.html

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bobbyydazzler · Yesterday 09:01

By issuing that please don't rape guidance, and by planning not to house asylum seeker by schools, the government have fully admitted that many asylum seekers/ immigrants are a danger to women and girls.

So why the fck are they still allowing undocumented unknown men by their thousands (now millions I'd say) into the country?

Women and girls are sacrifical lambs - the government don't give a sht about us.

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YourLemonLemur · Yesterday 09:06

It’s absolute madness the government won’t secure the borders. It’s the first duty of a state to protect against invasion. It’s not fair on the people who come either, incidentally. The crossing is dangerous in many ways, many die or are abused. There are multiple safe countries, closer to home, where refugee camps could be established for genuine war refugees, this would be better for all concerned, including the boat migrants who would no longer make a dangerous crossing.

YourLemonLemur · Yesterday 09:11

Porn is part of the problem too. It’s gone worldwide and leads to an impression white girls (majority of porn actresses) are up for casual sex at any time. We can’t stop people watching porn in Afghanistan though so in the meantime close the borders and quickly before more women and children are hurt. Of course porn addled British men rape too, but at lower per capita rates and we’ll always have some predatory men, that doesn’t mean we need to import more. The current system incentivises predatory and criminal men from other countries to come here, where they have no work and little chance of forming consensual sexual relationships. What exactly did the establishment think was going to happen?!

takealettermsjones · Yesterday 09:14

aberamagold · Yesterday 08:22

You seem to be under the misapprehension that ‘international laws’ are as binding and immutable as laws of nature, rather than being just agreements we can reject or ignore if they’re not in our national interests.

We are not morally responsible for sheltering every random bloke from some violent, misogynistic shit hole of a country who chooses to rock up here.

I am not under that misapprehension, nor am I under the misapprehension that we could just reject or ignore those laws without serious negative consequences.

takealettermsjones · Yesterday 09:16

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 08:43

@takealettermsjones - so do you think then that the assaults/rapes that take place are a small price to pay for saving the men who claim asylum here?

Do you think the leaflet is a good idea or unnecessary, given the majority are upstanding individuals?

Do you believe that cultural differences is a reasonable defence?

So do you think then that the assaults/rapes that take place are a small price to pay for saving the men who claim asylum here?

No. I believe in innocent until proven guilty, but harsher punishment when proven guilty.

Do you think the leaflet is a good idea or unnecessary, given the majority are upstanding individuals?

A good idea, but insufficient on its own.

Do you believe that cultural differences is a reasonable defence?

No.

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