AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK?

[bobbyydazzler]

Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK
UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

And why is rape much lower in Poland where everyone feels safe

That’s a fair point re workplace sexual harassment training.

those countries are mostly doing better than the UK and if anything the flow is now the other way round.

the US is much richer than the U.K. and the opportunities are better. Same for Canada.

there was EU migration in the first twenty years of this century but Brexit and the increasing prosperity of their home countries means many have gone home.

and as for Switzerland you have got to be joking. I have friends that live there and nobody in their right mind would leave Switzerland to live in Britain. Ok, Switzerland might be expensive but it’s bloody idyllic otherwise.

immigration largely comes from countries poorer than your country. We had loads of Indian and Pakistani and Caribbean immigrants in the 50s and 60s and the more recent waves have been the poles and the Romanians etc from the EU expansion.

Some practices are ancient. The Taliban recently re-introduced stoning. They didn’t get that from the west.

Disagree with a complete stop on all immigration. However, when I look around my town and the damage that has been done over the past 5 years or so, its clear that we need to reduce immigration dramatically and that an awful lot of recent arrivals need to go home. The deliberate enshittification of our country has to be stopped and reversed, after that the bar for people wishing to move here needs to be set much higher. None of this should be even remotely controversial.

www.dw.com/en/fact-check-comparing-european-rape-statistics-doesnt-work/a-74486251

Not sure about Poland.
Unfortunately in Romanian women and girls especially Roma are often sexually assaulted and trafficked to America, the Middle East, the pervs, the predators brought there through orphanage volunteers, aka child predators so unfortunately Romanian has a long history of sexually abuse. Even in Ireland many Roma girls are forced into prostitution, they’re moved around the country to make sure they don’t make alliances with anyone who could help.
1000’s if Romanian orphans and women were sold world wide. It impacts the culture.
That’s why Andrew Tate lived there for so long.

You wouldn’t think it from some posts.

I have read the number of foreigners meant they nationals is higher than that but that by the side I am very shocked that the top three are Indians, Poles and Romanians as that is not how the press presents it?

I am not one bit surprised that Indian is at the top of the list.

All the MNers say how safe they feel in Poland though.

I mean no one here would want their daughter to wander New Delhi at night

yanbu, your post sums it up correctly!

Well, one reason could be that there are more Indian, Romanian and Polish migrants.

We are soooo scammed, we have no idea.

You should know that Romanian and Polish are cristians and Indians can be non Muslim.

75% of SA have been done by British men according to your own figures, where is the outrage?

Or anywhere in Pakistan. I read of two horrendous incidents of two separate foreign women visiting. One ladies car broke down. Not a chance I’d visit any of them countries, unfortunately they’re visiting me. Remembering the group in India too that went out to see the full moon, the guides were attacked, the women destroyed.

We ban overseas student visa applications from whole countries because of elevated visa offence rates.

Why would that logic be OK for visa offences but not sexual offences?

Or put in practical terms, isn’t it OK to look at this chart and draw a line somewhere?

Ive cropped out country names. I don’t think it’s bigotry to say there is a point after which the burden of extra rapes and sexual assaults is too great to accept.

(This data is from Germany as we don’t publish ours)

It’s beyond belief how some people respond to threads like these. Why can’t people be concerned that men are coming over to the UK in the masses, from cultures where they view women as nothing, and there’s many many many examples of them committing crimes, murders and rapes? We all know Brits also commit these crimes, but that doesn’t make it any better!!! If a Brit has a history of rape, it’s likely he’s in the system. If they commit any new crimes their history will be taken into account when sentencing. You could also do a Clare’s law if you have concerns. Whereas a mass amount of men coming over here, who have no proof of who they are, no record of what they have done previously means you have no idea who you are dealing with. There have also been many examples of “pack” mentality where a group of asylum seekers have targeted vulnerable/ alone / drunk females. What chance does a lone female have against a group of men? How do people defend these never ending crimes from migrants with “well white men do it too?” I’m concerned about BOTH!!! Why can’t the “left” accept that we have an issue on both sides but that people are likely more focused in general about migrants because we can’t deport people who are from here can we? But we can stop more of it coming in. It’s also concerning to many seeing the groups of men and the pack mentality. It’s worrying because of the culture they come from, which will be so heavily imprinted on them that it’s very hard to change. It’s worrying we have no idea what previous crimes they have committed and that many of them come over with untreated mental health issues. It’s worrying because the amount of foreigners in our prisons is not in proportion to the overall population!!

Don't go there at all

Eastern Europe is far more conservative and Poland is staunchly Catholic. I am quite sure the crimes don’t get reported - it will be like it was here 40-50 years ago.

I recently had a run-in with Czech police - three of them banging on my hotel room door at 3 am in the course of an investigation that was nothing to do with me. There was no understanding at all that as a lone female I was reluctant to open the door to three men in the middle of the night. I am quite sure English police would not have behaved like that and would have approached hotel management or brought a WPC.

We tried banning the Poles and Romanians with Brexit, but it didn't take and tanked the economy.
We can have another go in 3 years.

Are women not outraged? Look at the feminism board, or the threads on here when there are rapes or child sex abuse cases that get lenient sentencing, etc. As far as I can see, women are plenty outraged over what British men do to women, and think much more needs to be done to combat 'homegrown' misogyny and sex offences.

They also don't want more men, from even more misogynistic and sexually violent cultures, to be entering British society at a relatively high rate.

MNers feel very safe in Poland. I've seen threads on it. Budapest as well. In general as well crime is so much lower. So much less theft and violence and robberies. Compared to London where if you own something of value, it'll get stolen.

@Limeandfigslooking at this chart why would you want to keep things as they are?

And anyone else who is happy with the status quo