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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

OP posts:
throwawayimplantchat · 19/08/2026 08:56

This is one of the most potentially identifying threads I’ve ever seen on MN.

If anyone knows any of you they’ll be able to tell you wrote this.

And MN often share popular threads on socials / press often pick them up. Theres nothing you can do to stop that once you post a thread.

Seems very naive for someone who works in the legal field!

You’ve even said who your son works for… I’d be furious if I was either of them tbh!

Butchyrestingface · 19/08/2026 08:58

MyPurpleHeart · 19/08/2026 08:51

I don't think its the actual job OP was referring to but more that she wants her daughter to go out and work for someone else.

There is a big difference between working an office job for a company and working an office job for your parents.

Let her take the year doing admin work at another unrelated law firm. Where she wont get special treatment by default and she will learn a thing or two about making it on your own steam

What unrelated law firm is going to give an 18 yo girl straight out of school a job for a year?

Araminta1004 · 19/08/2026 09:01

I wouldn’t want any of mine to take a gap year without that gap year exposing them to novel and challenging experiences. I also wouldn’t want them to let a Durham offer go just for the sake of a chance of getting into Cambridge, there is no guarantee. If she was going to work at the OP‘s firm in the holidays anyway - she already gained that exposure.
I don’t think it’s a question of anyone having to struggle for a growth mind set - more that the OP is hoping for more get up and go/challenge yourself outside your comfort zone.
Having said all of that - you can’t blame an intelligent child picking the path of least resistance that leads directly to success anyway. You have to explain calmly why broader experiences may be enriching in a very long term manner.

SevenYellowHammers · 19/08/2026 09:03

I’m poor, retired teacher, and I’ve spoiled my kid rotten to get him to an RG uni, year abroad , great summer paid internship (I wrote the CV/letter and made initial phone call).

I’ve used nearly all my lump sum
on a house rent for him.

He can be lovely but equally as rude and entitled as fuck. But I stand by decision to do what I did because it’s what parents do.

He wasn’t IVF but a later life surprise and miracle so I will admit to being a doting mother!

OP it’s not like me to defend wealthy people because I’m a professional working class hero 😫 but I think you’ve done a great job and your kids will be ok.

I bet your daughter is in awe of your job and that’s why she works at your law firm.

Maybe she could do some work on a case for free or something if there’s one that might teach her something about the fact that not everyone is as privileged as her.

But as you’ve said, you didn’t always have it easy, both your kids will have bumps in the road and learn some humility so there’s nothing wrong with them being a bit lucky now.

Sam9769 · 19/08/2026 09:03

Your post sounds like a piss take!

You're a solicitor running your own firm with not quite 20 solicitors working for you.
Your husband is a art dealer working in London.
Daughter got 4 A stars in her A levels and has been working for you gaining valuable legal experience.
She wants to study law and go to Oxbridge and is taking a gap year to enable her to apply and hopes to continue working in your firm which would be ideal as she wants to study law.
Son working for JP Morgan and has worked in Art Galleries in the past.
In laws all well healed by the sounds of it and gave her an old car to enable her to get around.
Life seems to be going exceedingly well for you all and what is exercising you?
The fact that your daughter appears "spoilt" and doesn't want to work in a shop, cafe or the like during her gap year!
I read an article yesterday about a young couple on honeymoon in Greece who were killed in a helicopter accident! Their young lives ended before they even began.
From reading your post, if it's not some sort of joke or brag, you're the one who appears to be the spoilt brat in your family!

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 09:06

Jarvis Cocker wrote a song about this sort of thing, OP. (Sorry, couldn’t resist).

hds873banana · 19/08/2026 09:11

I can’t get over the amount of people flying the flag for nepotism. Wild. But this is MN where most are six figure+ salaries and totally out of touch with normal people.

dottiedodah · 19/08/2026 09:15

I think YABU Im afraid .She is working hard ,aced her exams and working for you as well.What is the point in her taking a job in Tesco,
when another youngster may be desperate for work?She has a car from DGP as do many youngsters now.I dont think she is spoilt as such .just privileged ,but as a Solicitor so are you!If someone said you had to work in Tesco what would be the point ?She is in the same boat!

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 09:15

hds873banana · 19/08/2026 09:11

I can’t get over the amount of people flying the flag for nepotism. Wild. But this is MN where most are six figure+ salaries and totally out of touch with normal people.

Working for the family business is very common in certain trade professions such as law/ dentistry/builders/plumbers….Do people complain when a child takes over their parent’s butchers?

the idea that no one can ever just happily take over from their parents is wild honestly. It was perfectly normal in year’s gone by. I don’t consider a child going to gain experience in a parent’s business if that is the field they want to get into nepotism. Just a normal, practical part of life.

ThatHangryRubyReader · 19/08/2026 09:16

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:41

The issue is she’s not a lovely young adult she is very very spoilt anything she wants she gets and I am partly to blame for that

Good on you for acknowledging that. Given that push her out of the nest now before she ruins her life

EvieBB · 19/08/2026 09:18

GellerYeller · 19/08/2026 01:01

PP seems to be referring to some time ago when it was possible to temp, especially for holiday cover. There were lots of entry level jobs for young people like filing, office junior, data entry, envelope stuffing(really!) etc., most of which don’t exist now. Lots of civil service and local council offices had post rooms, typing pools and reprographics staff(photocopying), which the unions didn’t want the more senior staff doing.

Ah, ok, thank you.
Such a shame these jobs don't exist anymore.
I'm so shocked and sad for youth of today - I was able to get a weekend job as a teen within a day :( :(

HoldingOntoMySanity · 19/08/2026 09:21

Yes times are sadly different. My local facebook page is filled with teens asking for any sort of job because they have applied for everything they can think of and the application numbers are huge.

Don't get me started on alot of places that ask for people to do an unpaid 'trial shift' and then just cycle through teens that way.

My teen is doing volunteer work litter picking and at the foodbank just to get something on his CV.

Curious77 · 19/08/2026 09:21

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

I don’t think you are being unreasonable at all! I think you clearly have done a great job parenting both kids, but you are aware that they have been lucky and want your daughter to experience other work and see the world from a different perspective.
you are obviously aware that some privileged kids can become entitled and spoiled and expect the world to fall into their lap! A bit of hard work outside of an office environment wouldn’t harm her at all. I can see why you are concerned about her attitude, as going behind your back in order to get a car from her grandparents was manipulative behaviour ( and the poster who said it’s only a 10 year old car, is missing the point entirely! She was told to save for her own!

BunnyLake · 19/08/2026 09:22

I think you’re worrying about nothing.

Caiti19 · 19/08/2026 09:23

I would think a child who achieved 4 A*s knows quite a bit about hard work. If she's motivated and works hard in your business, I can't see the issue.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 09:24

I don’t think you’re being weird about this OP. The issue is that your daughter has not had to work for anything. She has not interviewed for her job, she was given it due to nepotism. That doesn’t mean she’s not great at it or that she’s lazy, but it does mean that she’s not developing the tenacity and resilience needed to live independently. That is what you’re trying to instil in her, and this is being made more difficult by the fact that she is consistently being given everything she wants.

I would say she doesn’t need to work in a supermarket but she does need to find a job off her own back. She needs to go through an application and interview process. These are key skills she needs to develop. Otherwise, what is likely to happen is that once she graduates she will come right back and expect you to hire her as a solicitor.

rubyrued · 19/08/2026 09:24

SevenYellowHammers · 19/08/2026 09:03

I’m poor, retired teacher, and I’ve spoiled my kid rotten to get him to an RG uni, year abroad , great summer paid internship (I wrote the CV/letter and made initial phone call).

I’ve used nearly all my lump sum
on a house rent for him.

He can be lovely but equally as rude and entitled as fuck. But I stand by decision to do what I did because it’s what parents do.

He wasn’t IVF but a later life surprise and miracle so I will admit to being a doting mother!

OP it’s not like me to defend wealthy people because I’m a professional working class hero 😫 but I think you’ve done a great job and your kids will be ok.

I bet your daughter is in awe of your job and that’s why she works at your law firm.

Maybe she could do some work on a case for free or something if there’s one that might teach her something about the fact that not everyone is as privileged as her.

But as you’ve said, you didn’t always have it easy, both your kids will have bumps in the road and learn some humility so there’s nothing wrong with them being a bit lucky now.

Tbh I don’t think it’s the norm for parents to go this far and imo humility is a trait to learn before adulthood.

maudelovesharold · 19/08/2026 09:25

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:35

Maybe it’s all just entirely me.

Regardless It would be great for my children to see volunteering as a good thing etc instead of thinking and saying what do I get out of that.

Honestly, op, very few teenagers/young adults are going to be that altruistic! Volunteering is mostly something they do for the ubiquitous Duke of Edinburgh’s Award, which most of them sign up for to go hiking/camping with their mates, and put something on their CVs (ha!).

She’ll come to her own understanding of life’s harsher realities in due course, I’m sure. Most of us do. It’s a fact that teenagers are notoriously selfish, anyway, due to their developing brains, and that this usually changes with maturity (although not always, I’ll grant you!)

HebeMumsnet · 19/08/2026 09:25

Morning, everyone. We've had a few reports about this thread coming in so just thought we'd let you know that we've had a look behind the scenes and, while we've no reason to think this thread is not genuine, it does look as though the OP has left the building now so won't be back to answer any further questions.

We'll leave the thread to run for the time being as there are interesting discussions happening more generally about some of the topics raised.

Superhansrantowindsor · 19/08/2026 09:26

Blimey. I would do anything I possibly could to help my kids avoid the crap jobs I did in my youth. You say she hasn’t worked hard but at the same time admit she worked very hard for her excellent a level grades.
I think this is some sort of weird stealth boast tbh.

BunnyLake · 19/08/2026 09:27

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 09:06

Jarvis Cocker wrote a song about this sort of thing, OP. (Sorry, couldn’t resist).

Totally. 😂 Seems OP wants her privileged dd to have a taste of what it’s like with the common folk before she embarks on a high flying career.

Agapornis · 19/08/2026 09:28

There’s been things he has said previously that are just wrong
the school has to contact us based on the things she has previously said.

You don't have to go into detail but along what themes were they? Did you then sit down with them, come up with some way to teach them otherwise?

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 09:29

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 09:15

Working for the family business is very common in certain trade professions such as law/ dentistry/builders/plumbers….Do people complain when a child takes over their parent’s butchers?

the idea that no one can ever just happily take over from their parents is wild honestly. It was perfectly normal in year’s gone by. I don’t consider a child going to gain experience in a parent’s business if that is the field they want to get into nepotism. Just a normal, practical part of life.

Edited

No, because it’s a class thing.

Actors/doctors/lawyers giving thier children contacts and a leg up, how terribly privileged!

A plumber taking on their son the day they leave school or letting them work in the family corner shop - awww, bless the working class heros, backbone of the land.

It’s fucking ridiculous.

PretendToBeToastWithMe · 19/08/2026 09:32

YABU, I never worked in a supermarket, it’s not a rite of passage. It seems like she knows how to work hard given she’s achieved well academically and is acting as “practically a paralegal” in your office. I think you are unnecessarily worried. It sounds like she’s driven and will find her way.

BillieWiper · 19/08/2026 09:35

Working as a junior in any business/employer is acceptable work for a teen. Lots of people get work through nepotism. It's just their family are art dealers and lawyers, not bricklayers and shop owners.

I applied for tons of hospitality and retail jobs as a teen but didn't get any. So I did call centre work and my family member got me a job in their industry. I don't really see what's wrong with that.

But I do know what you mean about your daughter. If you don't really need her at work then she should find another solicitors office who does. But if her dad will just let her work for him then at least she's doing something! Plenty of teens in rich families don't work at all!