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AIBU for refusing to meet my husband’s ex to discuss the affair? It’s been over a decade now.

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Greeneham · 17/08/2026 23:38

12 years ago I started sleeping with my friend’s husband it was casual I just thought it would fizzle out. About 9 months into us sleeping together, seeing each other, going on trips (he would tell her it was work trips abroad) he decided to leave her and try to see if we can have a relationship. We have since married and have a 5 year old boy and life’s moved on really.

Last week his ex wife messaged me and asked to meet up and talk. She told me she was still quite hurt and it’s something that has affected her a lot. I responded and told her I’m not sure if meeting is a good idea but I’m sorry for how things happened I accepted my part to play in the affair and I did tell her I’ve moved on I can’t keep apologising and she also doesn’t need to forgive me.

I don’t really see any value in meeting up. What I did was wrong and karma will probably get me for it at the same time I love my husband he makes me very happy we have a lovely son who makes us both very happy. I’d rather just move forward. 8 years isn’t a long marriage but it’s been the best 8 years of my life so far I’d rather just continue the life that we have. We both did a terrible thing I’m not excusing that but also it’s been over a decade now. I don’t want to meet up and talk things out.

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WhyDontILearn · 18/08/2026 09:47

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Fucking hell. What a grim thing to say to someone.

Sunnibee · 18/08/2026 09:48

Greeneham · 18/08/2026 07:54

Morning sorry I did need to sleep it was 1am and had to see my son this morning before my husband drops him off to his parents for the day as they’re taking him to summer day camp for the day.

I’ve read a lot of the different perspectives, and honestly, I understand them. If people think I’ll get my karma for what I did, I’m not offended by that. I probably deserve whatever consequences come from the choices I made back then. I’m not here to argue that I was a good person, or to convince anyone that what I did wasn’t wrong. It was wrong. I’ve said that quite plainly, and I’ve never really tried to pretend otherwise.

What I don’t think I need to do, though, is publicly lay out every detail of my life or every consequence I’ve faced just to prove that I understand the seriousness of my actions. I know what I did. I know who I hurt. I know that saying “I was young” or “a lot of time has passed” doesn’t undo any of it.

I turned 40 a couple of weeks ago, and I suppose that has made me reflect quite a lot. I’m not the same person I was in my 20s. I completely understand why some people won’t believe that, and I don’t expect anyone to owe me forgiveness or trust because I’ve changed. But I know myself now in a way I didn’t then. I know what I was capable of, and I’m much more honest with myself about the kind of person I was at that point in my life.
There wasn’t some big, calculated plan behind what I did.

There wasn’t an elaborate explanation that makes it more understandable. The truth is much less complicated and, in some ways, much uglier than that. I was selfish. I didn’t think enough about the people I was hurting, and at the time I cared far too much about what I wanted and far too little about the consequences for everyone else. Sometimes people do genuinely shitty things because they are being shitty, selfish people. That was me.

As for DH meeting her, she did ask him years ago after the divorce. He didn’t. He was in counselling at the time and after everything they had already discussed, he came to the conclusion that meeting in person wasn’t a good idea. I can’t give anyone a better explanation than that. I don’t think there necessarily is one. He made his decision, and that’s his to own.

I also understand why people say, “once a cheater, always a cheater.” I can’t sit here and tell anyone that they’re wrong for thinking that. I chose to build a life with someone who had cheated, and I accept that people will judge me for that too. We started our relationship from a place of hurt and bad decisions, and I’m not going to rewrite history and pretend otherwise.

But it has also been more than a decade. We’ve had a marriage, a child, another baby on the way, and an entire life that has happened since then. People can believe that people never change if they want to. I can only speak for myself and say that I’m not who I was then. That doesn’t erase who I was. It doesn’t make the past less painful for the people I hurt. It just means I don’t believe a person has to remain permanently defined by the worst things they did in my case this was in my 20s.

And I want to be careful about something else: I’m not looking for sympathy by saying that losing my friendship with her was painful. I know I caused the situation. I know I don’t get to make myself the victim of consequences that came from my own actions. But I can still be honest that losing someone who had been my friend for a very long time hurt me too. Both things can be true. I can accept full responsibility for why the friendship ended and still acknowledge that it was difficult for me.

She has said that she misses the friendship, and I’ve thought about that quite a lot. I don’t realistically expect a friendship to come back. I completely understand why she would never trust me again. I wouldn’t expect her to. Trust isn’t something I can ask for simply because I’ve changed or because enough time has passed. There’s just no possibility of trust from her end based on our history that’s just a given.

What I can do is ask if she wants to have a conversation over the phone. No expectation that we can somehow go back to being who we were. I’ll take a few days to think about properly though.

But after all this time I think the most honest thing I can do is acknowledge what I did without trying to soften it, acknowledge that it hurt people, accept that some consequences will never be mine to control, and still allow myself to believe that I am capable of being a different person now. I don’t believe I need to hate myself but also I’m not the victim in this situation.

I was selfish. I hurt people. I regret it. I can’t change it, and I don’t expect anyone else to forget it.All I can possibly do is make sure the person I am now isn’t the same person I was then.

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Mangelwurzelfortea · 18/08/2026 09:48

I don't think anything is to be gained from meeting with her tbh. Telling her the last 8 years have been the happiest of your life is almost certainly not going to give her any kind of closure. I think you just have to apologise and move on.

QuintadosMalvados · 18/08/2026 09:49

WhyDontILearn · 18/08/2026 09:20

What a load of bollocks.

No.
Absolute truth.

Your response, however, suggests that you've married a cheat yourself.
Best of luck.

Wheresthebeach · 18/08/2026 09:49

I do think its awful that posters are hoping for your marriage to fail, there's one child and another on the way. How can anyone want those children to suffer as some part of 'karma'.

WhyDontILearn · 18/08/2026 09:50

QuintadosMalvados · 18/08/2026 09:49

No.
Absolute truth.

Your response, however, suggests that you've married a cheat yourself.
Best of luck.

No, I haven't.

And no, it's not the truth, whether you want it to be or not.

ProcrastinatorsAnonymous · 18/08/2026 09:50

JaneGood · 18/08/2026 09:42

It really is / the vitriol for a stranger who made a mistake is unhealthy.

If her life is “ruined” that’s her own fault. most of us wouldn’t let an unfaithful partner and a selfish friend destroy us permanently.

No one gets through this life without some pain, some betrayal, some heartache.

It’s on us to figure out how to move forward and be as happy as possible despite that.

We obviously can't know - but I think it's a strong possibility that asking to meet up is in fact part of OP's friend trying to 'figure out how to move forward and be as happy as possible" despite the pain inflicted by OP and her husband. Presumably, she has found it very difficult to trust people since then, and this has continued to impact her life in negative ways. I wouldn't be surprised if she is having some sort of therapy after a crisis in her life - and her therapist thinks a lot of issues stem from this betrayal.

We all do bad things. But if we hurt someone and then there's an opportunity to help them put themselves back together - just by giving an hour or so of time and enduring some emotional discomfort - it seems pretty selfish not to do that?

I don't think OP can simultaneously say "I know I hurt her and I'm remorseful" and "I have an opportunity to help her now, but I choose not to".

candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 09:50

@WhyDontILearn People change. If they do the hard work.

"If they do the hard work." and that's a big "if".

If people were self aware enough to work on themselves, then they'd be self aware enough not to behave the way they did in the first place.

WhyDontILearn · 18/08/2026 09:51

Wheresthebeach · 18/08/2026 09:49

I do think its awful that posters are hoping for your marriage to fail, there's one child and another on the way. How can anyone want those children to suffer as some part of 'karma'.

Because they are desperate to do a burn the witch thing. It's horrible.

Minasama · 18/08/2026 09:51

Dozycuntlaters · 18/08/2026 09:42

This is utter madness. You've been with him/married to him for longer than she was. Afffairs happen, for many different reasons. People fall in and out of love, it's a fact of life. Of course an affair isn't great but come on, you haven't killed a small kitten or puppy and I honestly think some of the posters on this thread are just deflecting or whatever and are making you out to be some kind of abominable person.... which of course you aren't. And it's making you think that's who you are. Stop saying you know you were wrong, and about karma etc, you've owned it, you've dealt with it and you are still with him, so at the end of the day you two are clearly more compatible etc. I mean, one poster said you had ruined her life.....wtf is that all about. Of course you haven't ruined her life, more utter madness.

I don't see what could possibly be gained from meeting her. She should be well over it by now, they are not tied by children, there is absolutely no need for you to ever be in touch with her again. You owe her nothing and I would seriously think about WHY she wants to meet you. What is she going to get out of it? I am sure she doesn't genuinely wish you well, nothing good can come out of it. If she hasn't felt closure yet after all these years then quite frankly that is for her to deal with.

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It is not for you or OP to judge what can be gained. The “wronged” woman wants to meet up, if she thinks it will help her that is enough.

QuintadosMalvados · 18/08/2026 09:51

Ally886 · 18/08/2026 09:06

If you've not had a handful of people who have upset you along the line you must have lived a very sheltered life.

I'm sure they haven't forgotten, much like I haven't forgotten those who have upset me. No benefit to anyone it turning into a pity party

I prefer a revenge party myself.

WhyDontILearn · 18/08/2026 09:52

candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 09:50

@WhyDontILearn People change. If they do the hard work.

"If they do the hard work." and that's a big "if".

If people were self aware enough to work on themselves, then they'd be self aware enough not to behave the way they did in the first place.

Doesn't work like that tho does it. By that logic everyone would be in prison for life for whatever disdemeanor they committed

They aren't. There is a reason for that.

I find your outlook depressing.

Hellandbackand · 18/08/2026 09:53

Greeneham · 18/08/2026 08:50

I think people think I’m here to justify my actions when I’ve admitted and said how selfish I was apparently that’s still not enough. Of course it’s not but I cannot go back in time. It’s tough because on one end I am happy and on the other end I shouldn’t have been so selfish. I am not proud of my actions at all.

Quite honestly OP very few people on MN will understand where you are coming from. And the work you've done on yourself since.
I actually do get where you are and I also understand why you say things in the manner you say it. I probably would phrase things in almost the same way.
But your narrative and style do not fit the MN typical poster so you will just get the responses you are getting. It will feel a bit cathartic to read them and agree with them that you are a bad person etc etc but this is probably undoing some of the good work youve done in therapy.
If I were you I'd mute the thread and have your phone call (which is a good compromise) and good luck. I hope your ex friend gets what she needs from the conversation and I hope it is not too painful for you

BitOutOfPractice · 18/08/2026 09:54

I'd bet my mortgage that you would find out quite a lot about your husband if you met up with his ex-wife, stuff you perhaps wouldn't want to know.

Error404FucksNotFound · 18/08/2026 09:55

If it is still affecting her after all these years then maybe you owe it to the friendship you once had to give her the opportunity to get her feelings out. Maybe she needs to tell you what you did to her in order to let it go.

Her friend fucked her husband and skipped off into the sunset with him and they lived happily ever after. That's going to leave you with massive trust issues.

Maybe she needs to hear you say that what you did to her was shitty and inexcusable. No buts. No explanation. No justification. Absolutely no look at how happy we are now though.

When you hurt someone so badly, when you blow up their life and destroy them, you don't get the luxury of deciding that it's all in the past. The person you hurt decides that. Its them you did it to, after all.

mrsm43s · 18/08/2026 09:56

Greeneham · 18/08/2026 00:23

I’m also not sure what I can even say I don’t have anything to say and I am not going to keep apologised I apologised and took accountability for my part to play in the affair. I understand what I did but also it’s been 11 years.

Why are you not going to keep apologising? You should do. There are no amounts of apologies that would right the wrong you did to her, but yeah, you should still keep apologising. You owe her that. I don't know how you live with yourself tbh.

candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 09:57

@WhyDontILearn By that logic everyone would be in prison for life for whatever disdemeanor they committed

If you want to go down that road the UK proven reoffending rate stands at 28.3% overall — rising to 56% for short sentences. (Latest 2026 figures)
That proves my point that not many people are prepared to do the hard work to change.
I agree that's depressing.

WhyDontILearn · 18/08/2026 09:58

mrsm43s · 18/08/2026 09:56

Why are you not going to keep apologising? You should do. There are no amounts of apologies that would right the wrong you did to her, but yeah, you should still keep apologising. You owe her that. I don't know how you live with yourself tbh.

That's not healthy for either of them. No therapist would tell the wronged wife that she should continually ask for apologies for the rest of her life.

Itsbeenalongtimeincoming · 18/08/2026 09:58

Greeneham · 17/08/2026 23:50

No they never have children together. He said if I want to meet up with her then yes if I don’t then no it’s my decision too. At the end of the day she’s the one that’s asked me. I have told her I don’t think there’s any point now over a decade later.

So you continue to be a 'great' friend....maybe for once think of what she needs. You have no idea why she wants to talk and what you did is beyond abhorrent, so maybe drop the 'whoa is me' and the 'it's been so long and we need to move on' and do the right thing for once.

You may have moved on. She may have thought HER husband was her soulmate and the both of you may have ruined her life.

Any justification, or negation of her feelings is truly just the continuation of the betrayal and self-centered attitude from you.

Nothing you will ever do will make up for what you did, but maybe consider doing it for her as she has asked.

As for the affair - stop dismissing it as a long time ago etc. These things have lasting implications and you are responsible for the way you behaved for life.

Thingsthatgo · 18/08/2026 10:00

I cannot imagine what pain this woman has been through. You must’ve been going through some awful shit to even consider doing this to a friend. Were you very close friends? I can’t imagine ever getting over this - 10 years is nothing. I know you feel like you’ve moved on - but I am not sure that you should. I would never forgive myself for betraying someone like that.

Wadsworthy · 18/08/2026 10:00

Well, you treated her life quite casually. You’re lucky she even thinks of you as human and worth talking to.

YABU in every way. Nasty post from a nasty OP.

Dozycuntlaters · 18/08/2026 10:00

Minasama · 18/08/2026 09:51

It is not for you or OP to judge what can be gained. The “wronged” woman wants to meet up, if she thinks it will help her that is enough.

Not up to me, but definitely up to the OP whether she feels anything is to be gained by this. You think that the "wronged" woman gets to be in charge of this situation because her husband left her for another woman about a hundred years ago. How long does she get to be in charge for, for ever? Do you get to be in charge of every decision you want to make for every person you feel has wronged you in your life? Madness.

HotGrapefruit · 18/08/2026 10:01

All this shit about "blowing up her life" and "ruining her life" - it's absolute bullshit.

To all the posters that say this: if you are genuinely that dependent on your husband to have any sort of life, please get therapy.

(My best friend had an affair with my husband and my life without him is a million times better, thanks.)

ThatCyanCat · 18/08/2026 10:01

Wheresthebeach · 18/08/2026 09:49

I do think its awful that posters are hoping for your marriage to fail, there's one child and another on the way. How can anyone want those children to suffer as some part of 'karma'.

MN claims to hate cheating and family breakups, but actually, in the "right" circumstances, there's a strong cohort that loves both those things.

I can't even count how many posts we've had now glorying in the idea of the cheating man getting cheating sex forever as long as it harms the cheating woman; some people even want it to be with the woman he cheated on. They're not at all unusual. And this same cohort also glories in the idea of a family falling apart if it means a cheater suffers; the pain of the spouse and children, which is otherwise held up as so tragic and terrible, suddenly becomes either nothing at all, or just something to enjoy. On threads where people consider telling someone about an affair, you see tons of it. "I'd tell them and then rejoice in watching their life fall apart" etc. They would be very cross if the couple managed to get past it and stay together.

murphys · 18/08/2026 10:01

There is a very big chance that after 12 years, she has just moved on now.

I am divorced over 10 years and really happy in myself. My ex did some really shitty things in our marriage too (included affairs), and it did take me a long time to process this, deal with this and then realise that the rest of my life does not have to revolve around what was a shitty marriage, and the ending of that. What ever he does, says even if he has more affairs, has nothing to do with me now I would be quite okay with having a conversation with his now wife who was the affair partner. As it is in the past. And now dealt with.

Maybe she thinks the friendship that you had is worth reviving and she has dealt with the way you both treated her?
Maybe she has some questions for you, she might just need some answers for final closure.

But she sounds like the better person here, and I will take my chances that the conversation is not going to be full of hate and drama. I think she has healed and if so, I take my hat off to her.

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