AIBU? Russia threaten UK

[mumlearningtorun]

Am I being overdramatic about the new breaking news I’ve just seen about Russia threatening UK after use of drones. I’m super scared and have anxiety, can someone somewhat reassure me? Has these headlines happened before??

So have they not had billions upon billions or is that a lie? Such a lazy response to call everything you don’t agree with Russian propaganda, instead explain why you think we should keep giving money when our country has people receiving medical care in hospital corridors (if they are lucky), a huge housing shortage and a cost of living crisis to name a few problems. Instead we keep creating more problems by involving ourselves with everyone else’s business before we have our own house in order.

Ok. I'll make it simple. Ukrainians in the territory under Russian control are at risk of summary execution, torture. They are having their homes, businesses, and property stolen. Thousands of children have been taken.

Those not on Russian controlled territory do not have this.

That is one of the differences this war is making.

Your point is incorrect. It does make a difference

I'm calling it regurgitated propaganda as that's what it is.

If war starts let it start could not care any less than i do already.

It`s all talk end off.

Evidence of what? The amount of money is eye watering.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1499362/total-aid-to-be-allocated-to-ukraine-by-donor/

You are bringing a micro attitude into a macro problem. The uk is affected by more than elderly people in corridors. Global security is objectively more important than that

I totally agree.
There’s sfa any of us can do about it anyway!

Russia is engaged in an aggressive campaign of subversion and sabotage against European and U.S. targets, which complement Russia’s brutal conventional war in Ukraine. The number of Russian attacks in Europe nearly tripled between 2023 and 2024, after quadrupling between 2022 and 2023. Russia’s military intelligence service, the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (or GRU), was likely responsible for many of these attacks, either directly by their own officers or indirectly through recruited agents. The GRU and other Russian intelligence agencies frequently recruited local assets to plan and execute sabotage and subversion missions. Other operations relied on Russia’s “shadow fleet,” commercial ships used to circumvent Western sanctions, for undersea attacks.

www.csis.org/analysis/russias-shadow-war-against-west

If a micro attitude means not wanting young people to have to go to war and to stop funding war you are absolutely correct.

What young people? The people fighting are Ukrainian or Russian so dont relate to your British money point

So do you think Ukraine should surrender? And the UK should stop all support?

Even if funding that war is stopping people being tortured and murdered? Stopping children being forcibly taken from their families

So we abandon Ukraine to its fate and Russia complete their invasion and annex it, triggering a huge refugee crisis as 30+ million Ukrainians seek refuge from their brutal oppressors.

Then the same happens in Estonia to 'liberate' the ethnic Russians there. Then Latvia. Then Moldova and Slovakia. And all the time waging cyber warfare, sabotage attacks, and disinformation on the West.

Will you still be saying 'nothing to do with us' then? Would you have said the same in 1938 when Germany annexed first Austria and then half of Czechoslovakia? How did that turn out? Did the dictator of the day just stop there?

Meanwhile, in the real world, people will always start wars. Human nature is acquisitive and unpleasant.

Should countries just sit and let it happen (because I can guarantee the youth won’t be any happier or better off in a country which is defenceless) or perhaps you would suggest the older people get sent instead (because MN hates old people)?

With maniacs like Trump sending troops in wherever he likes, it’s going to be impossible to avoid getting caught up in everything.

Russia has North Korean troops fighting in Ukraine and supplementing their army. They have invaded another country and have help in doing so. I don’t think it’s wrong to help Ukraine defend itself.

Tbf the UK has not only put money into the war itself (which was inevitable! but also the cost of people coming over from Ukraine by paying families to have them living with them and providing school places, transport and in some cases jobs.

Even though some feel safe enough to go back to visit but apparently not to go back to live there.

The government’s Integrated Review of Security, Defence, Development and Foreign Policy in 2021 said that state threats to the UK are growing and diversifying, and that states are becoming increasingly assertive in how they advance their own objectives. It called Russia one of “the most acute threat[s] to our security”. That assessment was reiterated in the subsequent refresh of the integrated review in 2023, which had, in part, been prompted by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

Despite progress over the last three years, Russia continues to pose a threat. The Russian government has been accused of orchestrating a widespread campaign of interference and disinformation that seeks to undermine the global order. In September 2024, the heads of MI6 and the CIA jointly warned that in a way not seen since the end of the Cold War, accusing Russia of a “reckless campaign of sabotage across Europe”.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9472/

They have had billions, you are correct. A government's single most important job, far more important than crowded hospitals and housing shortages, is to protect the country from foreign aggression. And we do that by giving military aid to UA to fight our enemy, so that we don't have to. Because if UA falls, then so does Europe, and so do we.

If we ignore our enemies, we won't have a house to keep in order.

I've not read through the whole thread, but you might find this guardian article reassuring. Basically nothing has changed - Russia's just happened to choose this point in time to do some posturing. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/18/russia-consequences-threat-uk-drones-ukraine

As pointed out, the UK would be hosting a lot more UA refugees if Russia's invasion succeeds.

Russia's always at it.🙄
Cyber attacks.
Shadow fleet ships in our waters.
Salisbury poisonings.
Buying British housing and assets.
Buying British politicians.
Arson attacks on the PM.
Funding conspiracy theorists and shit stirring wankers.

Before Putin invaded Ukraine in 2022 Russia was widely seen as the 2nd best army in the world. Now they're seen as the 2nd best army in Ukraine.🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

This sabre rattling makes them look even more pathetic.

Britain may be a so called parliamentary democracy. However in this day of universal smart phones there are better and more efficient ways of enacting laws than 650 people witting on their lazy asses in an old fashioned building. These significant matters should be decided by the British Born population as a whole and not by a few wankers who went to Oxbridge.

I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t be doing our bit against Putin. It just seems odd that the government and the country have gone out of their way to welcome the Ukrainian people and give them a life here, paying to educate their children, even though the general attitude towards immigrants is far less positive.

Most Brits see Russia as a threat, what should be decided as whole?

Are you serious? Do you honestly think the ‘British born population’ is generally capable of making international decisions? Everyone is motivated by what they deem best for themselves and their loved ones. Few people are capable of understanding the nuances of international politics.