AIBU? Russia threaten UK

[mumlearningtorun]

Am I being overdramatic about the new breaking news I’ve just seen about Russia threatening UK after use of drones. I’m super scared and have anxiety, can someone somewhat reassure me? Has these headlines happened before??

You know better than MI6. Amazing.

Maybe they are the right kind of refugees?

I am pleased to see there is still some tolerance towards refugees.

Must say the idea of making/voting on legislation via smart phones seems tailor made for Russias trolls farms and their known propensity to attack cybersecurity.

The media love to keep people in a state of panic and terror. It sells papers.

I'm sure it was happening before the pandemic but since then it's been a non stop campaign with no let up and no good news.

I often think if it hadn't been for the news, newspapers etc would you have even known about the pandemic?

It's little wonder mental health is tanking left, right and centre.

I don't look at news headlines any more and I don't have social media other than here and youtube (do they count as social media?)

It doesn't mean I don't worry about what's going on but it means that the pendulums of bad news don't swing around me.

Absolutely batshit.

Yes, let's hand partial control of foreign and defence policy over to Jen with her HND in Beauty Therapy, because I'm sure she's in a far better position to know what's best for the UK's security in both the immediacy and the longer term, than people paid to take advice from the international Intelligence community, the MOD, foreign allies etc etc

Almost as ridiculous is the "I don't want more UK kids dying in wars" nonsense. Cool, go and tell the world's demagogues we simply aren't playing any more. In fact, no need, because if you take this moronic attitude that foreign aggressors simply aren't the UK's problem and therefore we should just not get involved, their lackeys will be knocking down your front door before long and you'll be able to complain about it in person. Except you wont, at least, not if you want to stay out of some camp, workhouse, or want to avoid just being shot out of hand. Sometimes it's necessary to defend yourself, and refusing to do so on "moral grounds" just results in both you, the kids you are desperate to protect, and everyone else getting bent over and fucked in any case. Well done idiot.

Conflict doesn't go away just because you object to it on "moral grounds", and nor will the people determined to come and kick your teeth in for you.

I guess without the news you would have been informed about Covid once people around you started dying?

MN and YouTube count as social media.

I honestly dont have much of an opinion on refugees one way or another. However I don’t think some refugees are more worthy than others.

What is the ‘right kind’? Is it because they are often women and children? Or because they are generally white?

I think, frankly, it's because they are European. They look like us, are culturally very similar to us, and often speak excellent English. And of course they are fleeing a conflict in our own backyard rather than on another continent. It's a case of 'looking after our own'.

Totally agree with all this!

Most of the population who don’t understand or wish to engage with politics at least can’t be arsed to turn out to vote.

But put it in the hands of the people directly and the mind boggles.

Yep. The naivety is off the charts. If there was a version of this where we could just stay out of this and it would go away, that'd be worth considering. But there isn't.

I don't distinguish either but the Russia appeasers on this thread will not be welcoming Ukrainian refugees

I am sure it is. The fact that statistically women and children may cost the country more in school places, maternal and female healthcare, and paying the sponsor families seems to bypass people.

And the fact they can sometimes pop back to Ukraine for a visit and then come back to the UK does seem to
make a mockery of the whole refugee thing.

I was anxious in the early days but we've been threatened by Russia so many times and nothing significant has come of it.

This is what Russia does. It's hard to take any of it seriously.

But in the extremely unlikely event of Russia nuking the UK, I hope it will result in instant oblivion. And there is zero point in worrying about that, so I don't.

How are Ukrainians 'our own people'?

Well this makes a change from the usual moan about most of the "boat people" being male. Maybe it will all balance out in the end.

OP, don’t worry. Russia’s economy is on the verge of collapse. Putin will be lucky if he survives a year without a mass uprising.

Yes, the idea that Russia's struggling economy and severely deleted military is capable of taking on wars with multiple opponents simultaneously is optimistic, to say the least.

Me neither! I think you are.

😂

Only for the last 60 years or so.

Put it this way - when that government alert went off on Friday pretty much anyone over 50 would’ve immediately thought, “Oh shit, the Russians are finally coming”.

It doesn't bypass people. They have been overwhelmingly welcomed.

They don't 'pop back' on a whim. Sometimes people go back to visit their husbands who are in the military or elderly parents who cannot travel. It's not hard to understand.

@IonianNerveGrip didn't say that Ukrainians are 'our own people'. Try re-reading the sentence.

They certainly won't be going for a beach holiday in Crimea.

So boat people are bad because they’re men of fighting age.

But Ukrainian refugees are bad because they’re women and children who cost the taxpayer more.

Maintaining links with home, showing a willingness to return home when the war is over, is bad.

Saving money and bringing your family here is also bad.

What are people meant to do?