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Falling over Vs having a fall

82 replies

BuzzyWeeThing · Today 08:45

I fell over while at work. It was a bad fall, I was carrying things so I did not put my hands out fully to protect myself. I landed on my face. My DP was phoned and was told I had ‘had a fall’. I’m 45 and fell over, I’m not elderly and had a fall. Word got round work and I’ve had messages saying they’ve heard I’ve had a fall. Grrr I’m feeling old now.

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QueenOfTheWasps · Today 09:57

I think you only enter the category of “having a fall” when you are pushing 80. I’m in my sixties. A few years ago I was dancing, pissed, on a table, ended up on the floor with a twisted knee and sprained ankle. That definitely wasn’t “having a fall.”

Daffodilsinthespring · Today 09:58

If you are under 75 you fall over. Over 75 you have a fall.

BuzzyWeeThing · Today 09:58

Daffodilsinthespring · Today 09:58

If you are under 75 you fall over. Over 75 you have a fall.

This is my thoughts too!

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youalright · Today 10:00

The difference is how people react if people laugh, you fell over and are still young. If people panic and ask if you need an ambulance you had a fall and you're now old

Thecows · Today 10:01

I hate the phrase 'had a fall' 'fell over' far better but there's definitely a distinction

KnickerlessParsons · Today 10:02

YouSawBrigadoon · Today 08:51

This is a conversation my friends and I have had several times. When do you stop ‘falling over’ and start ‘having a fall’? The latter is definitely used for the elderly.

We have had exactly the same conversation. I thought the turning point is around 60, but OP is 45.

TY78910 · Today 10:03

I suppose I’d distinguish the two (in my own head) as I fell over - tripped / hazard fall and had a fall - just buckled and fell without an obvious trigger.

Blackberryjammin · Today 10:04

I had a very stupid falling over incident due to incorrect lacing of my walking boots, I was mortified that two men rushed over to help me up like I was infirm so immediately jumped up declaring I was fine and carried on what I was doing but actually it really bloody hurt and I should've stopped and iced my knee, have since had weeks of knee pain which is only just easing.

BuzzyWeeThing · Today 10:05

Thecows · Today 10:01

I hate the phrase 'had a fall' 'fell over' far better but there's definitely a distinction

The thing that made me feel worse, was while sitting in A&E after my accident, there were many elderly people sat there who were there as they had ‘had a fall’ and on the wall was lots of advice on how to avoid “having a fall’.
On the accident form for work, I emphasised the fact it was a fall over.
I got a lovely bunch of flowers from my managers. I’m on annual leave now so I’m hoping it will all be forgotten about by the time I return.

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InMySpareTime · Today 10:06

The final stage of falling is when “had a fall” gains capital letters, a short pause and knowing look, and is delivered in hushed tones. “She…Had A Fall 😏”. You’re definitely not superannuated enough for that type of mishap.

Morepositivemum · Today 10:07

They’re saying you had a fall because of your age- you won’t heal or feel the same as a ten year old!!! Hope you’re ok x

Rockty · Today 10:09

Completely agree, falling over and having a fall are very different. You tripped, with your hands full, and face planted. Awful but very different from falling from a dizzy spell or mobility issues. Hope you feel better soon

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · Today 10:12

My GP defined it as "If your friends laugh before they help you up, you fell over. If people rush to help, you had a fall."

I am in my mid sixties and twice in the past year I have made involuntary full body contact with the ground damaging a different knee each time. The first time I was at home and able to pull myself up by hanging on to what was around me, the second time I was in the middle of the road and needed assistance to get up. Both times I admit to having had a fall.

TorroFerney · Today 10:13

Fairislesweater · Today 08:59

I have had this conversation with my siblings recently and we came to the conclusion that if people laugh, you’ve fallen over. If they don’t, you’ve had a fall. This may only work in the uk.

Edited

We are at the half way house on this where if someone falls you wait a few seconds to see if they are actually injured before you laugh - or not! Although sometimes it's involuntary if it is a very comedic fall.

CoffeeCantata · Today 10:20

MorrisonsPlatter · Today 09:44

At what age do one's two breasts merge into a bosom?

Or indeed a ‘mono-bosom’!

Definitely a matronly asset.

6ate9 · Today 10:24

CoffeeCantata · Today 10:20

Or indeed a ‘mono-bosom’!

Definitely a matronly asset.

It’s always girls that have a “bosom” friend!

CoffeeCantata · Today 10:24

Could it be to do with the active/passive implications? You actively fall, but having a fall makes you sound less in control -it’s more like something which happens to you and implies you’re more vulnerable?

CoffeeCantata · Today 10:27

6ate9 · Today 10:24

It’s always girls that have a “bosom” friend!

In the days of covering up piano legs because they were considered indecent there was also a feeling that chicken breast was a bit rude, so apparently genteel people would carve the bosom of the bird.

Ridiculous to us, but if we’re honest, we do a huge amount of fussing and euphemising today too - we just don’t think of it in that way.

BunnyLake · Today 10:31

MorrisonsPlatter · Today 09:44

At what age do one's two breasts merge into a bosom?

lol I was thinking this exact thing a few days ago 😂 I looked in the mirror at my bra less reflection (was wearing a top) and thought, have I now got what my old aunt used to call boooozoms. Once you start looking like Les Dawson’s character with the heaving ‘bosom’. 😂

BunnyLake · Today 10:36

TY78910 · Today 10:03

I suppose I’d distinguish the two (in my own head) as I fell over - tripped / hazard fall and had a fall - just buckled and fell without an obvious trigger.

Edited

Yes I think the difference is a specific outside object caused you to fall over (an uneven kerb, a slippery surface) but a fall is when it’s your own body that has caused the fall.

CoffeeCantata · Today 10:37

BunnyLake · Today 10:31

lol I was thinking this exact thing a few days ago 😂 I looked in the mirror at my bra less reflection (was wearing a top) and thought, have I now got what my old aunt used to call boooozoms. Once you start looking like Les Dawson’s character with the heaving ‘bosom’. 😂

🤣🤣

6ate9 · Today 10:37

BunnyLake · Today 10:31

lol I was thinking this exact thing a few days ago 😂 I looked in the mirror at my bra less reflection (was wearing a top) and thought, have I now got what my old aunt used to call boooozoms. Once you start looking like Les Dawson’s character with the heaving ‘bosom’. 😂

I have small breasts so I might miss out on the “heaving “bosom!” 🤣

BunnyLake · Today 10:39

6ate9 · Today 10:37

I have small breasts so I might miss out on the “heaving “bosom!” 🤣

I envy you. 😁

CoffeeCantata · Today 10:40

Sorry for derail…you’ve reminded me of a tiny lady I used to work with who had ginormous bosoms. I’m surprised she could stand up. One day in the office she said”Ooh - I just leaned forward and me boozies were typing for me!”

She could have been played by Babs Windsor for sure.

Ill get my coat…

NancyThompson · Today 10:40

CoffeeCantata · Today 09:19

I find this sort of thing fascinating because I’m interested in language. It’s really hard to put your finger on why these expressions imply different things, but they do. At least no one has suggested you “took a tumble”! Twee US idiom.

I don’t mind people being late (er, well, linguistically, I mean) but when they say they’re running late I feel irritated.

No idea why!

If you like lingustics, you'll like this: In southern Africa, if someone says "my father is late", it means he has died.
Extrapolated from "the late So-and-So".