Lindsay Clancy was let down

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For those of you who may not know, Lindsay Clancy is an American mother who killed her three children (all under age 5) then tried to commit suicide by throwing herself out of a window, and is now wheelchair bound as a result. Her defence is she was in the throws of post natal psychosis.

You can watch the full trial on Court TV. The trial is ongoing now.

She was totally let down by the system, the doctors, maybe even her husband. I’ve never watched a full trial and been so appalled at what I am seeing and hearing. Kevin Reddington her lawyer needs an award.

It is interesting to me because I have a close relative who I’ve cared for for over a decade who is regularly in psychosis. The lack of understanding of psychosis generally is wild. I My relative can slip in and out of psychosis on a minute by minute basis some days.

I really hope Lindsay’s defence lawyer gets the best outcome for her even though her life is completely ruined whatever the outcome of the trial.

I’m currently off the opinion she did the murder but the ex husband was a narcissist who was having an affair and gaslighting her, making her feel even more alone and crazy.

You clearly haven't watched the trial to say something like "he showed barely any emotion in court" nor heard PC talk about his children in court. It was the most painful thing to watch. I reccomend you watch the trial.

I have watched parts of the trial….i have a job so I can’t watch the whole thing!

I watch this trial live every day. Perhaps hypocritically, I find it abhorrent that it's livestreamed and played on US TV every day because it's such an intensely personal thing for the families to sit through and we are witnessing awful pain, tragedy and loss.

However, livestreamed it is and I watch it because I am so interested in seeing how maternal mental health is described, analysed and treated and also the legal implications of what happens when someone is failed to this extent.

There is currently no scenario in which Patrick will be found guilty of anything. He is not on trial, he is a witness. I don't think people have grasped this very basic legal fact.

The fact that so many women are making up bizarre stories where the husband murdered the children or he was having an affair and that somehow makes him responsible for her strangling them shows there is something very very, very strange going on with many women’s reaction to this dreadful case.

That and the dressing up to demonstrate outside the courthouse and the sickening “Same, Lindsay” tiktok videos.

Like you I watch the trial every night, just because I like complex American trials. In a world of social media and curated stories it's pretty fascinating to listen to real people with real stories. This said (and i know it sounds hypocritical) this is a case of mental illness and it should not be live streamed to the public as entertainment, youtube is making a load of money courtesy of a very ill mentally woman and her broken family and I have a problem with that (yes, hypocritical, I know). Watching a social media platform getting rich thanks to the pain and illness of others is obscene but nothing new. It reminds me of the Roman circus, how criminals and the mentally ill would be thrown into the arena with hungry lions as entertainment for the masses. The emperor in a white robe has been substituted by the tech oligarc hiding inside his Silicon Valley mansion, same emperor, different clothes.

Just to clarify, I’m not including women who are defending LC on the basis of what they believe to be ppp. I disagree that there is enough evidence of this but others clearly feel differently and arguing this case reasonably and rationally is not what I’m talking about as the strange and disturbing reaction. It is the extreme, completely divorced from reality, tribalist and performative reactions which I find really bizarre and worrying.

(This is to clarify my post at 9.59)

I’m sure lots of women sympathise with or have experienced the hell of perinatal depression, anxiety or (more rarely) psychosis, together with the lack of help and/or stigma that makes seeking help hard.

Those women have every right to support Lindsay.

Do you think the prosecution have proved that it wasn’t PPP?

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She has admitted to the murders so she has done it. The trial is to determine whether she goes to prison or mental facility. She is guilty but not potentially criminally responsible if she wasn't in the "right state of mind".

What's the point in that comment? Literally nobody is saying that.

Honestly, your posts come across like all those fragile men I see posting on Facebook so angry about everything women do.

Nobody is saying it's ok for her to have murdered her children. Nobody is asking that she is freed and let to live the rest of her life like an innocent woman. She didn't just commit multiple murders, attempt suicide and then "say some magic words" to make it all ok. She had been begging for help for a long time, from her husband, from her wider family, from MH professionals. If many of those people had done more to actually help her, those children may still be alive today.

Unless you think that she was so wicked, she'd always planned to off her own kids and her years of claiming PPD/PPP were all just part of her cunning plan to get away with it?

But actually, because she is a woman it's the opposite of what you're suggesting. People don't give a shit. And now an entire family is gone.

I don't know why I've put any effort into responding to you, because it's clear where your mindset is, and it lacks any logical thought.

I just hope from the pit of my heart that the next woman who tries to get help in the way she did actually receives it.

Her life is over as she knows it.
She is now paralysed, has to live with the guilt of what she did, has lost her children, her husband, her job, her home and - whether imprisoned or incarcerated in psych ward - her liberty.
There is nothing to take from her at this point.
The only thing for her the trial will give is the validation she was not of sound mind. Even then, she has to live with it. That has to be a worse punishment than anything else, surely.