AIBU to discuss A level success without private school spending?

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Parents/carers who have not spent a penny on Educating their children and they have just received great A level results.

The sacrifices made all the struggle,

I’m interested to discuss families where the child has succeeded without need for private school

https://www.gbnews.com/money/private-school-fees-soar-vat

https://www.ft.com/content/091b214d-231b-414a-8f3e-9ef9fc021926?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Those who did pay,

presumably to secure great results at A level

The same kids off to Uni, placements easier to secure as less international competition. Uni the playing field evens.

And now time to pay for Uni,

https://inews.co.uk/news/education/university-tuition-fees-11000-2030-4705197?srsltid=AfmBOorss52PSHD6xJzisWMdeNxcXDen3IrCGS49nnGH1ZyDnmvTOh_k

A child who did outstanding (without spending a penny) the same result as a family who spent £250k + The above article is a low estimation for a selective U.K. day/ boarding.

The kids holding the same result off to the same Uni, How are families feeling!?…. Did you save to help towards the Uni Fees/accomodation.

You are not offending people, we’re all just baffled and bemused by your ongoing rant.

private school isn’t good enough for your daughter and costs too much
state schools near you aren’t good enough for your daughter

so you’re considering spending more to send her to another private school

you have a chip on your shoulder because you chose to send your daughter to a private school when there is no guarantee that money will pay off in terms of grades.

maybe spend your time and money investing in your daughter’s education and well being.
Why not send her to a state school and spend the money on tutors that will give her the assistance you don’t believe she will get in these less than “excellent” rate schools?

life has no guarantees. You chose to pay for her education and now you’re annoyed that state school kids may well do better than her in 7/8 years time?!

The figures don’t lie. The ISC CEO.

I pay full fees it’s affordable for me however, it’s incredibly frustrating to receive emails of all the cut backs or open a newspaper and read articles that 1/3 are in receipt of internal benefits. (So far)

It’s not a matter that I cannot afford, I can! it’s a matter that I have zero respect for those 1/3 “hardship” within independent school (and growing) The attitude, the superiority these people put out over state education now that’s amusing! We all know what’s going on. Common knowledge.

The question of nosy families (back in the day) at independent school may have been whispers wondering “who’s on the bursary place in our year?” not necessarily about finance but also wondering who’s that gifted to have earned it.

The question now amongst full fee payers is “Who’s NOT on a bursary/hardship fund….” That is the difference.

Independent schools have caused this problem for themselves! it’s 10+ years of financial mismanagement in the making. Set to worsen.

I think it's hilarious that you're dedicating this much of your life this thread. What a waste of time.

Yet, you keep reading. 🙄

Havent read anything beyond the first sentence of any of your posts!

Yet, you keep posting 🙄 securing relevance and algorithm, Thank you.

Im hoping journalists will pick up the thread now active for all to read. Permanent. Let’s get the truth about the reality of independent schools out there. So families can make informed comparisons on

value for money in the years ahead!

Does this sound like a good investment?

Value for your money?

1/3 on internal benefits which you-will-fund.

This! They’re not giving a shit about the fact they’re mixing with private school kids at Uni…! What a weird thread…!

Well done to all those who got what they wanted today - and to those who didn’t - just keep moving forward and you’ll be great! Uni isn’t for everyone…

You post is incoherent. What exactly are you trying to say? Is it some goady nonsense about students from non-fee paying schools having good outcomes without spending a penny?

Each to their own but I don’t regret a penny of the £600k I’ve spent on DCs education.

You’re just repeating yourself over and over again, replying to your own comments.
other people are actually having discussion and making sensible points. You’re just acting like a broken record.

I didn’t say you couldn’t afford fees. But all you seem to care about is the financial aspect and the weight placed on “guaranteeing good grades” rather than focusing on your daughter’s actual education

She's waiting for a journalist to pick it up apparently! I think she thinks she has some ground breaking revelation.

You don't know what grades they would have got if they had swapped schools. The one at private school may have only got c at a state school, strangely enough better resources and smaller classes can increase grades. Just like paying for after school tuition can increase grades. Or turning up to school instead of skiving off can increase grades. So if they wanted to pay money to get better grades, it was only 'wasted' if their child was sure to get top grades without it.

Daycare? You’ve obviously never set foot in a private school.

Your inability to write clearly speaks volumes about the chip on your shoulder.

I knew my child was bright from a very young age. I was very clear that she would go to state school, but if she failed to achieve potential then I would move her to private school for the smaller class sizes, and more teacher attention.
As it was she did fine, achieved great Gcse's and AAB at Alevel, but I most definitely would have moved her if need be

It boils down to where you live (post-code lottery) and peer-groups.

Until they get to work (in certain professions) and realise it all counts for nothing.

FWIW I’m against private education and would like to think I wouldn’t send my children; but it’s not a financial option for me, so it’s very easy for me to say that in theory.

A whole lot of words for minimal clarity. No idea what you're after tbh.

My DS just got A*, A , A. We're in the arse-end of poor area. But the college has great kids, is safe, has good teachers, and is free.

Surely grades are, ultimately, down to the student's work ethic and ability?

Well said,....All three of my dc went to state schools, & they all did very well. Two are doctors, the other is an engineer. I think parents often pursue private education, as a desire for social prestige

Surely it's easier for private school kids - smaller classes, better resources, pastoral support, higher expectatations - to get better grades than state school equivalents. I'd go as far as to say a B from state school us like an A from private - esp from schools in really deprived areas. Which is why I think uni entrance requirrments should be lower for those kids to 'level the playing field'.

I want to v pushy (state) grammar - and definately 'easier' for me to get better grades than my brother who want to comp. Teaching was aimed at higher level, exorctations were higher etc. If I'd gone to the comp I reckon I'd have got lower grades.

That way madness lies. Not all state schools are the same. Lots of kids are sent to private schools that don't work for them at all.
U can't make grades relative.

I think there are lots of different reasons parents choose independent schools. I went to not a great one in Kent. My daughter achieved all A grades in her A levels attending a local grammar. Much better than I did! So many factors contributing though.

Surely grades are, ultimately, down to the student's work ethic and ability?
Environment plays a big factor; everything from family to food and yes friends.
I believe one of the challenges in discussing education is the huge variety found within the country at each level. Then add; that children’s cohorts within a school can skew an entire year group for 5+ yrs.
Then there’s politics and the economy and I’m not sure what the university landscape will look like in 7 yrs time (OP’s child is 10).
I live in a university (minor) town, and lecturer's report that students prefer courses delivered online. That traipsing through leafy green campuses with books is not what interests them. Maybe it’s because it allows for PT work.

Ours are at private school - because we both went (not to the sand school) I don’t think it’s the results - it’s the experience! (And convenience for us)
Our niece went to a state school and got into Oxford. We are so so so proud of her! (The school she went to/didn’t go to) has no bearing on her achievement.

State school for mine: medicine, maths teaching in university, architecture, secondary physics teacher, sixth form chemistry teacher, Downs syndrome gardener. Tbey all loved school

This is a nonsense. Many people send their children to private school for a variety of reasons. Better standard of schooling compared to the local schools in their area. Better SEN provision than that offered for their child by the council. Longer school hours to suit parents work. Better sporting facilities if the child is excellent at sport. Or just plain because the parents want to do so . I can't say I have ever met a parent who sends their child to private school bragging about it. It's a school at the end of the day. Much like people move house to get a catchment area for a good state school.