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Stats that are surprising

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Ontobetterthings · 12/08/2026 22:13

I came across a stat online earlier that said 80% of the world's population hasn't been on a plane. Aibu to find this so surprising?

What other stats have you come across which suprised you?

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ThatCyanCat · 13/08/2026 08:05

OhFFS26 · 13/08/2026 05:25

give ten examples of civil war in the uk in the last three years do not argue do not ponitifcate do not offer opinion do not attempt to be sly just give the examples asked for - this was my prompt into Chat GPT and that came up with:

2024 Southport riots — Southport, 30 July 2024.
2024 Liverpool riots — Liverpool, August 2024
2024 Rotherham riots — Rotherham, August 2024.
2024 Middlesbrough riots — Middlesbrough, August 2024.
2024 Sunderland riots — Sunderland, August 2024.
2024 Harehills riot — Leeds, July 2024.
2025 Ballymena riots — Ballymena, Northern Ireland, June 2025 police attacked protestors
2025 Epping asylum-hotel riots/protests — Epping, Essex, July–August 2025; protesters clashed with police who were attacking them
2026 Belfast riots — Belfast and surrounding areas, June 2026 police attacked protestors
2026 Thetford unrest — Thetford, Norfolk, August 2026 several nights of escalating violence exacerbated by police

These are just the first 10 that came up. There have been dozens more all over the last couple of years.

I don't bother book marking them anymore, but this is common knowledge to anyone outside the Guardian readership.

So yeah, if you don't know about the civil war taking place all over the UK, you really do need to get out more.

Edited

You haven't got a clue how appropriate your username is.

IzzyGone · 13/08/2026 08:10

Bunnyofhope · 12/08/2026 23:09

That one third of men in the UK have a criminal record.

Men born in 1953, you missed that part

Namechangedforthis25 · 13/08/2026 08:40

Persephonia1966 · 12/08/2026 23:08

there are so many variations of how to shuffle a pack of cards that its likely that no two shuffled card decks have ever been the same

It's crazier than that. The best way is imagine every second a deck of cards is shuffled into a new configuration.
Meanwhile every billion years you take one step forward and after you had gone all the way round the world with this method you put a teaspoon of water in the grand canyon and then repeat the one step forward every billion years routine putting another teaspoon of water in the grand canyon. Once you had repeated this enough times that the grand canyon is completely full you empty it and put a sheet of paper on the ground then repeat the whole procedure. If you keep going till the pile of sheets of paper reaches the sun, the card shuffler will be about a third of the way through all the possible combinations of cards.

This is a bit of an odd example

but the fact itself is totally mind blowing

this is the best thing I’ve learned from this thread - and for a while to be honest!

Laurmolonlabe · 13/08/2026 08:41

OhFFS26 · 12/08/2026 22:32

To be fair, America is so absolutely huge and going from state to state - eg Texas to California, or Florida to Montana - is like going to a foreign country where they all speak a similar language. I can see why they don't feel the same need to travel, you have everything imaginable by way of variation and every holiday and experience money can buy at your fingertips.

Whereas Great Britain is so absolutely tiny, and despite the language/accent differences very much the same sad, poor, poverty stricken and civil warn torn place from Land's End to John O'Groats (not forgetting Northern Ireland), so getting away is a luxury experience.

Hello American person- you are extremely ignorant and also what on earth are you doing on UK Mumsnet?

Sherararara · 13/08/2026 08:45

AugustDieSheMust · 13/08/2026 02:05

If you are in a group of 23 people it’s more likely than not that two will have the same birthday.

The bigger the group the more likely it is.

“The bigger the group the more likely it is”

No shit.

Yetone · 13/08/2026 08:48

Dontlletmedownbruce · 12/08/2026 23:24

If you drew a timeline including the Egyptian pyramids, Cleopatra and life today, Cleopatra would sit closer to today.

If all time since earth was formed was a clock, humans arrived at 5 to 12.

I though that this concept of time was common knowledge.

Sherararara · 13/08/2026 08:49

Laurmolonlabe · 13/08/2026 08:41

Hello American person- you are extremely ignorant and also what on earth are you doing on UK Mumsnet?

Well apart from the civil war comment they aren’t wrong.
Having lived in America there are countless opportunities to travel within the country.
The UK is small, and increasingly generic, and unfortunately going down the pan.

MotherOfCrocodiles · 13/08/2026 08:56

T rex lived closer in time to us than to stegosaurus

WildLeader · 13/08/2026 08:58

OhFFS26 · 12/08/2026 22:32

To be fair, America is so absolutely huge and going from state to state - eg Texas to California, or Florida to Montana - is like going to a foreign country where they all speak a similar language. I can see why they don't feel the same need to travel, you have everything imaginable by way of variation and every holiday and experience money can buy at your fingertips.

Whereas Great Britain is so absolutely tiny, and despite the language/accent differences very much the same sad, poor, poverty stricken and civil warn torn place from Land's End to John O'Groats (not forgetting Northern Ireland), so getting away is a luxury experience.

WtAF are you talking about?

Minasama · 13/08/2026 08:58

SunnyRedSnail · 12/08/2026 22:24

I was really surprised to find out that more than 50% of households take more out of the system than they pay in.

On top of that, 50% of all the tax comes from just 6.5% of the population!!

And as a nerd, there are so many variations of how to shuffle a pack of cards that its likely that no two shuffled card decks have ever been the same! I worked that out age 18 when I did A Level further maths!

Yes, I have always found the stats around how much is paid in by who and what it spent on extremely interesting.
I remember reading that the U.K. has about half the rate of road deaths as Germany and the lowest rate in Europe, although that was about 20 years ago and may have changed. However we have a comparable or higher rate of pedestrian deaths.
Also the fact that you are far more likely to be killed in a car than in a plane accident, but I can’t remember the stats.

Minasama · 13/08/2026 08:59

OhFFS26 · 12/08/2026 22:32

To be fair, America is so absolutely huge and going from state to state - eg Texas to California, or Florida to Montana - is like going to a foreign country where they all speak a similar language. I can see why they don't feel the same need to travel, you have everything imaginable by way of variation and every holiday and experience money can buy at your fingertips.

Whereas Great Britain is so absolutely tiny, and despite the language/accent differences very much the same sad, poor, poverty stricken and civil warn torn place from Land's End to John O'Groats (not forgetting Northern Ireland), so getting away is a luxury experience.

Where do you live in the UK??

CoffeeCantata · 13/08/2026 09:00

OhFFS26 · 12/08/2026 22:32

To be fair, America is so absolutely huge and going from state to state - eg Texas to California, or Florida to Montana - is like going to a foreign country where they all speak a similar language. I can see why they don't feel the same need to travel, you have everything imaginable by way of variation and every holiday and experience money can buy at your fingertips.

Whereas Great Britain is so absolutely tiny, and despite the language/accent differences very much the same sad, poor, poverty stricken and civil warn torn place from Land's End to John O'Groats (not forgetting Northern Ireland), so getting away is a luxury experience.

Pwa ha ha!

Oh dear - someone's feeling a bit inferior!

MyPantsAreFartCentral · 13/08/2026 09:01

I read somewhere that the entire population of the world, if standing shoulder to shoulder, could fit on the Isle of Man but that can't possibly be true surely.

SusanJJ · 13/08/2026 09:04

InterestedDad37 · 12/08/2026 23:11

110% of made up statistics are exaggerated to the point of absurdity.

Quite. What studies are these stats based on, if any?

SusanJJ · 13/08/2026 09:07

SunnyRedSnail · 12/08/2026 22:24

I was really surprised to find out that more than 50% of households take more out of the system than they pay in.

On top of that, 50% of all the tax comes from just 6.5% of the population!!

And as a nerd, there are so many variations of how to shuffle a pack of cards that its likely that no two shuffled card decks have ever been the same! I worked that out age 18 when I did A Level further maths!

Please quote your sources for this.About households and tax, not drcks of cards.

MyDarlingRose · 13/08/2026 09:07

Persephonia1966 · 12/08/2026 23:38

It makes sense to me because of the exclusively bit. Lots of babies have tried solids before six months, even if it's only mouthing at a bit of banana their dad was eating and decided to pop in their mouth. I was advised to start trying mine on solids at about five months even though all the books said wait till six and I don't think it's that unusual? I don't think it necessarily means only 26% are breastfed rather than fed formula.

The Lancet Review on breastfeeding (2023) addresses the reasons why. Clue: formula companies manipulate people + older generations can’t offer advice (mostly) because they used formula + BFing is harder than formula so people give up

Harddaysnight1 · 13/08/2026 09:08

OhFFS26 · 13/08/2026 05:25

give ten examples of civil war in the uk in the last three years do not argue do not ponitifcate do not offer opinion do not attempt to be sly just give the examples asked for - this was my prompt into Chat GPT and that came up with:

2024 Southport riots — Southport, 30 July 2024.
2024 Liverpool riots — Liverpool, August 2024
2024 Rotherham riots — Rotherham, August 2024.
2024 Middlesbrough riots — Middlesbrough, August 2024.
2024 Sunderland riots — Sunderland, August 2024.
2024 Harehills riot — Leeds, July 2024.
2025 Ballymena riots — Ballymena, Northern Ireland, June 2025 police attacked protestors
2025 Epping asylum-hotel riots/protests — Epping, Essex, July–August 2025; protesters clashed with police who were attacking them
2026 Belfast riots — Belfast and surrounding areas, June 2026 police attacked protestors
2026 Thetford unrest — Thetford, Norfolk, August 2026 several nights of escalating violence exacerbated by police

These are just the first 10 that came up. There have been dozens more all over the last couple of years.

I don't bother book marking them anymore, but this is common knowledge to anyone outside the Guardian readership.

So yeah, if you don't know about the civil war taking place all over the UK, you really do need to get out more.

Edited

Fucking hell. A few pissed-up scallies in the street pushing bins, throwing bottles and breaking a couple of windows is a “Civil War”? Hyperbole much?

How would you have described the storming of the Capitol where people actually died? Armageddon? An apocalypse?

Persephonia1966 · 13/08/2026 09:09

MyPantsAreFartCentral · 13/08/2026 09:01

I read somewhere that the entire population of the world, if standing shoulder to shoulder, could fit on the Isle of Man but that can't possibly be true surely.

Probably. The stats I saw said you could fit the entire population within the M25. https://brilliantmaps.com/population-m25/ but I don't think that's a good idea as it's hot and crowded enough in London as it is

Alternatively you could house the entire global population within the island of Great Britain and we all have about 7 square metres each so space to sleep, move about a bit. Or even more if we built up a storey or two. But then you'd need to assign other countries to be the food places or infrastructure like waste disposal. I don't know why you would though, efficiency I guess.

World population M25

The World's Population Could Comfortably Fit Within London's M25 - Brilliant Maps

Map and math by reddit user 1337spbWith newly released figures showing that net immigration to the UK increased to a near record 318,000 people last year, it

https://brilliantmaps.com/population-m25/

Boobyslims · 13/08/2026 09:09

Tiptopflipflop · 12/08/2026 23:11

I'm tired so will explain this badly, but I am always a bit mind blown by the statistics around prostitute use and also domestic abuse.

Apparently around 10% of men in the UK are estimated to have used a prostitute. Around 1 in 4 women will experience domestic abuse in their lifetime.

I'm in no way disputing that these are true, and obviously people don't necessarily go around telling people these things. But having never knowingly met someone in real life that I know has experienced domestic abuse and not met a man who I know has used a prostitute, I periodically think to myself how I must know plenty of people impacted by both statistics.

It makes me very sad to think of all the women I know and hold dear who statistically will have been impacted. And it makes me feel rather suspicious of men in general because obviously most people think it won't be any of the men they know, but of course they are hiding in plain sight.

Are you me?!!!! I’ve been aware of these stats too and had a similar reaction. I think it’s 1 in 7 men has used a prostitute at least once. I felt very they walk amongst us after I found that out. This was after discovering my ex was one of them.

1 in 4 for DA is correct to my knowledge, as Women’s Aid give this figure and again, my head got in knots. I’d sit on a work call and think, five of us, chances are, one of us… I’d think, who are the men doing this? Is it a smaller representation and they do it on repeat to the female population? Does a man who does it, abuse an average of 8 women, 15 women, in his lifetime? I can’t explain it I just found it staggering. Who are the men?? I must know some men who do this. Who ARE THEY.

I think that will be the biggest can’t believe that used to happen moment, when it changes, we will eventually look back in utter gobsmacking disbelief that it was culturally allowed, a blind eye turned.

Persephonia1966 · 13/08/2026 09:12

Harddaysnight1 · 13/08/2026 09:08

Fucking hell. A few pissed-up scallies in the street pushing bins, throwing bottles and breaking a couple of windows is a “Civil War”? Hyperbole much?

How would you have described the storming of the Capitol where people actually died? Armageddon? An apocalypse?

I think they are just trolling at this point. And using AI to come up with arguments which I make a point of not reading. If noone read obviously AI generated posts maybe the people who copy and paste it would stop. That's my forlorn hope.

you have everything imaginable by way of variation and every holiday and experience money can buy at your fingertips
Or just trying to make the whole Zoro ranch thing a positive. Bleeurgh

BringBackCatsEyes · 13/08/2026 09:13

In the UK you haven't gone on vacation if it isn't abroad

Not true at all.
Many UK people go on holiday within the UK.

JesseDavisGonnaHangOnInThereNSoul · 13/08/2026 09:14

Minasama · 13/08/2026 08:59

Where do you live in the UK??

In a secure facility hopefully.

EmpressaurusKitty · 13/08/2026 09:16

BringBackCatsEyes · 13/08/2026 09:13

In the UK you haven't gone on vacation if it isn't abroad

Not true at all.
Many UK people go on holiday within the UK.

The use of ‘vacation’ says it all really.

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 09:22

Roughly one in two people will be diagnosed with cancer in their lifetime in the UK.

gotmyselfintoapickle · 13/08/2026 09:25

OhFFS26 · 13/08/2026 05:25

give ten examples of civil war in the uk in the last three years do not argue do not ponitifcate do not offer opinion do not attempt to be sly just give the examples asked for - this was my prompt into Chat GPT and that came up with:

2024 Southport riots — Southport, 30 July 2024.
2024 Liverpool riots — Liverpool, August 2024
2024 Rotherham riots — Rotherham, August 2024.
2024 Middlesbrough riots — Middlesbrough, August 2024.
2024 Sunderland riots — Sunderland, August 2024.
2024 Harehills riot — Leeds, July 2024.
2025 Ballymena riots — Ballymena, Northern Ireland, June 2025 police attacked protestors
2025 Epping asylum-hotel riots/protests — Epping, Essex, July–August 2025; protesters clashed with police who were attacking them
2026 Belfast riots — Belfast and surrounding areas, June 2026 police attacked protestors
2026 Thetford unrest — Thetford, Norfolk, August 2026 several nights of escalating violence exacerbated by police

These are just the first 10 that came up. There have been dozens more all over the last couple of years.

I don't bother book marking them anymore, but this is common knowledge to anyone outside the Guardian readership.

So yeah, if you don't know about the civil war taking place all over the UK, you really do need to get out more.

Edited

Well I asked Chat GPT the definiton of a civl war and it said this -

A civil war is generally defined as sustained, organised armed conflict between groups within the same country or state, usually involving the government fighting an organised domestic group, or rival domestic groups fighting for control, independence, or major political change.
There isn't one universally agreed legal definition, but civil wars normally have several characteristics: the violence is organised rather than sporadic, occurs primarily within a state's territory, involves identifiable armed groups capable of sustained fighting, and reaches a substantial level of intensity.
For example, the American Civil War is unambiguously a civil war because the Union and Confederacy fielded organised armies and fought sustained campaigns over control and secession.
One important distinction is that civil unrest isn't necessarily civil war. Riots, violent protests, terrorism, political assassinations or clashes between communities can be extremely serious without constituting a civil war. They generally cross into something we'd describe as civil war when violence becomes sustained armed conflict between organised parties.
Researchers sometimes make this more precise by imposing numerical thresholds. A well-known academic definition associated with the Correlates of War project requires at least 1,000 battle-related deaths during the conflict, together with meaningful resistance by both sides. Other datasets use lower thresholds and distinguish between an armed conflict and a war.
So, in ordinary language, a useful test is:
Are organised groups within one state engaged in sustained warfare against each other, rather than episodes of political or communal violence?
If yes, “civil war” is probably an appropriate description.