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Stats that are surprising

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Ontobetterthings · 12/08/2026 22:13

I came across a stat online earlier that said 80% of the world's population hasn't been on a plane. Aibu to find this so surprising?

What other stats have you come across which suprised you?

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Persephonia1966 · 13/08/2026 10:11

SunnyRedSnail · 13/08/2026 09:37

Haven't got time to find it. It was a couple of years ago and looked at where all the government money came from.

E.g. we pay a lot of tax as a family (around £20k tax and NI a year) but we also have 3 kids at school plus receive child benefit so that likely means we currently take more out of the system than we pay in at the moment.

Remember that income tax is just one type of tax. There is also VAT, stamp duty, council tax etc.

There is a conversation to be had about how you balance the books in terms of government spending and tax long term. But these "net contributor" versus "net taker" arguments are quite shallow. If I own a company and employ people on minimum wage I am probably (hopefully) paying a lot in tax so am a net contributor. But the people I employ are likely taking more than they put in due to their wages. But the only reason I am able to run my company is because I can employ these people at those wages so should the amount they "take" in benefits be counted only against their own taxes or against the tax I pay too. Plus a nurse might be a net taker, but if we raised her wages so she was a net contributor suddenly health care would cost more so more people would become net takers because their taxes no longer cover the health care they received.

And that's before you get onto whether children are counted in their parents "taken" sum or balanced against their own future earning and tax paying potential.

It's still an interesting idea. But it's more complicated than it's made out.

NoNewsisGood · 13/08/2026 10:15

Glad to see More or Less get a mention 💪They still have a BBC podcast (may also be live on the BBC?) and it's great for unpicking the nonsense stats that politicians roll out in interviews. Shame they don't do it live though!

Gallowayan · 13/08/2026 10:17

That extra marital affairs are most common in the over 60s age group. I Cannot remember.where I read this and I have no idea if its actually true!

JesseDavisGonnaHangOnInThereNSoul · 13/08/2026 10:24

Gallowayan · 13/08/2026 10:17

That extra marital affairs are most common in the over 60s age group. I Cannot remember.where I read this and I have no idea if its actually true!

We could discuss over dinner
Pepe le pew style🦨.

CoffeeCantata · 13/08/2026 10:30

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 09:31

The first time I saw this statistic, I had to check as it seemed so high!. According to Cancer Research UK it’s true.

I guess, since we're all living much longer than 100 years ago, we all have to die of something.

I think cancer would get us all in the end because it's a result of cell reproduction malfunction. I suppose the dice gets rolled many times and eventually the odds shorten drastically.

I try not to think about it though!

Morelovelyandtemperate · 13/08/2026 10:36

AugustDieSheMust · 13/08/2026 02:05

If you are in a group of 23 people it’s more likely than not that two will have the same birthday.

The bigger the group the more likely it is.

Bullshit.

ErrolTheDragon · 13/08/2026 10:44

Morelovelyandtemperate · 13/08/2026 10:36

Bullshit.

No, it’s correct. It’s not really ‘statistics’, it’s a very simple probability calculation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem

Possummy · 13/08/2026 10:45

MyDarlingRose · 13/08/2026 09:07

The Lancet Review on breastfeeding (2023) addresses the reasons why. Clue: formula companies manipulate people + older generations can’t offer advice (mostly) because they used formula + BFing is harder than formula so people give up

Any clues in there about why bfing is 'harder'? When surely it should be super natural and easy?

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 10:52

CoffeeCantata · 13/08/2026 10:30

I guess, since we're all living much longer than 100 years ago, we all have to die of something.

I think cancer would get us all in the end because it's a result of cell reproduction malfunction. I suppose the dice gets rolled many times and eventually the odds shorten drastically.

I try not to think about it though!

Healthy life expectancy in the UK has dropped. Cancers that were traditionally found in older people are now rising in people under 50. Bowel and ovarian cancer rates are rising in young adults.

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 10:56

Possummy · 13/08/2026 10:45

Any clues in there about why bfing is 'harder'? When surely it should be super natural and easy?

Maybe lack of support. In the days before formula, human milk was the was the only way for survival.

Possummy · 13/08/2026 10:58

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 10:56

Maybe lack of support. In the days before formula, human milk was the was the only way for survival.

Support for what?

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 11:04

Possummy · 13/08/2026 10:58

Support for what?

If you haven’t grown up seeing people breastfeeding amongst your family and friends, you’re going to lack the help and support if you have difficulties.

CoffeeCantata · 13/08/2026 11:08

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 10:52

Healthy life expectancy in the UK has dropped. Cancers that were traditionally found in older people are now rising in people under 50. Bowel and ovarian cancer rates are rising in young adults.

Sadly true!

I think a lot of the wartime generation - those who grew up in the war and endured rationing and then austerity - actually ate far more healthily than subsequent generations. They didn’t have junk foods and takeaways and did much more physical work. We’re now back on the downward slope I bet.

Farageisacupidstunt · 13/08/2026 11:09

OhFFS26 · 12/08/2026 22:32

To be fair, America is so absolutely huge and going from state to state - eg Texas to California, or Florida to Montana - is like going to a foreign country where they all speak a similar language. I can see why they don't feel the same need to travel, you have everything imaginable by way of variation and every holiday and experience money can buy at your fingertips.

Whereas Great Britain is so absolutely tiny, and despite the language/accent differences very much the same sad, poor, poverty stricken and civil warn torn place from Land's End to John O'Groats (not forgetting Northern Ireland), so getting away is a luxury experience.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 oh I love this. You're sooooo funny!!!

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 13/08/2026 11:09

LittleMxPerfect · 12/08/2026 23:33

This is a shocking statistic considering only 30% of babies are tounge tied and only 5% of mothers have clinically low supply. However this is an old stat and the 2024 BF survey states 26% of babies are exclusively BF at 6 months. This includes expressed milk. The first survey did not include expressed BM.

28% is better but still so low.

It's not correct though.
Very few breastfed babies (only 10%) reach the age of a week without being offered formula.

90% of babies are breastfed at birth.

But by the time they're a month old, only 50% are still being breastfed.

By six months, only 1% are still being fully breastfed.

Morelovelyandtemperate · 13/08/2026 11:10

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 11:04

If you haven’t grown up seeing people breastfeeding amongst your family and friends, you’re going to lack the help and support if you have difficulties.

I think the PP's point is that there shouldn't really be any difficulties, since it's the natural means of survival.

Farageisacupidstunt · 13/08/2026 11:14

Moistcottonchafers · 12/08/2026 22:51

60% of career advancement relies on exposure, 30% on image as opposed to 10% actual Performance according to the P. I. E model.

I'd say it's more like 60% due to arse licking, 30% due to threatening to leave and 10% actual performance and I wish I was joking,

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 11:17

Morelovelyandtemperate · 13/08/2026 11:10

I think the PP's point is that there shouldn't really be any difficulties, since it's the natural means of survival.

I think there were always difficulties, and in the past some women couldn’t breastfeed so a wet nurse would be used. Nature doesn’t always “get it right!!”

TheJoySpreader · 13/08/2026 11:17

Why have people voted? 🤣

Surely it’s neither reasonable or unreasonable, it’s just info isn’t it? 🤔

Possummy · 13/08/2026 11:18

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 11:04

If you haven’t grown up seeing people breastfeeding amongst your family and friends, you’re going to lack the help and support if you have difficulties.

But that's my point. It shouldn't need support. It should be second nature, the easiest and cheapest option.

If we're all going to be expected to be surprised at the (tenuous) 1% stat, shouldn't that demand more inquiry than just 'giving up' like it's a character flaw? WHY do people 'give up'?

It shouldn't be difficult - and if it is then no one should be surprised at the statistic.

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 11:19

Possummy · 13/08/2026 11:18

But that's my point. It shouldn't need support. It should be second nature, the easiest and cheapest option.

If we're all going to be expected to be surprised at the (tenuous) 1% stat, shouldn't that demand more inquiry than just 'giving up' like it's a character flaw? WHY do people 'give up'?

It shouldn't be difficult - and if it is then no one should be surprised at the statistic.

Look at my post at 11.17

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 11:31

@Possummy If breastfeeding (no formula) was the only way to feed your baby, most mothers would manage. They would have to persevere. Women who feed their babies on demand probably have less difficulties like mastitis and low milk supply.

TheJuryIsOut · 13/08/2026 11:42

Namechangedforthis25 · 13/08/2026 08:40

This is a bit of an odd example

but the fact itself is totally mind blowing

this is the best thing I’ve learned from this thread - and for a while to be honest!

I don't actually believe this is true, it can't possibly be

TheJuryIsOut · 13/08/2026 11:44

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 11:31

@Possummy If breastfeeding (no formula) was the only way to feed your baby, most mothers would manage. They would have to persevere. Women who feed their babies on demand probably have less difficulties like mastitis and low milk supply.

Yeah "most", not all though. It annoys me when people dismiss low supply, mine just stopped at around 3 weeks, and when I say stopped I mean it literally just stopped, couldn't get a single drop.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 13/08/2026 11:44

6ate9 · 13/08/2026 11:17

I think there were always difficulties, and in the past some women couldn’t breastfeed so a wet nurse would be used. Nature doesn’t always “get it right!!”

Yes and people would be horrified about this now. It wasn't just a luxury of the wealthy, if a new mother was very unwell women in the community would help out. I find it fascinating that a woman's milk coming in and the ability to latch was literally a life or death issue