To think Count Binface is doing a great job in the Clacton by-election?

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Count down to Bin Day!

Count Binface has been out bigging-up Clacton and drawing attention to its potential.

It’s a really positive campaign.

I don’t think he’ll win but I’d love it if he did. I think he’d be brilliant.

And if he doesn’t, I think other candidates could learn a lot from his approach.

I don’t sound as ridiculous as you, thinking the main parties were frit.

Therefore, please take note that CBF increased his number of votes by around 10,000% - he got 95 votes in the Makerfield by-election. And this was with the longest ballot paper in history - it was ridiculous opening that recently (I do postal voting).

NF created this mess and the ensuing public scrutiny and comment. If he’s so sure of his position, then why not just let the investigation continue and conclude? Instead, he’s created more scrutiny from more people and wasted tax payers money.

To all of the NF supporters on this thread - would you vote for him to be your local MP? If so, why? He’s definitely more “Establishment” than CBF, right down to the salmon-coloured trousers he wore yesterday - the staple out of office attire of plenty of city boys.

They didn't stand because they refused to take part in Farage's circus. I hope you know that and your naivety is faux. The alternative would be tragic.

Sweet FA as far as I can see - I’m in his constituency.

Binface got more than a quarter of the vote. 🤷‍♀️

You'd be embarrassed at your democratic choice? That explains a lot.

So you admit Farage can’t make real change and other parties could if they stood?

Well they decided not to. As is their choice. The same way Reform has decided not to stand in other by elections in the last. As is their right and choice.

The other parties wanted Farage to win AFAIK as they want the investigation to continue. For them it’s a long game.

Plus Labour have been too busy actually lowering immigration.

Point out any error in my post.

The figures are taken from the BBC News website, as are the details of those who went to support Binface.

Tricky isn't it when the facts don't support your agenda @ClarkeandNewman and you have to resort to vagueness.

By the way, are you in charge about how many times a poster can post?

Are you on Mumsnet staff or just someone who would be something if they could...a little like Binface in fact!

All I know is that NF has increased the volume of my paper recycling recently, the amount of crap that’s been posted through my door is ridiculous.

TBH, I am probably relieved that the main parties didn’t field candidates. It gave me a chance to register what, for me, was a protest vote. Because I feel like a lost voter - mostly a centrist. What I’m definitely not is a supporter of any of the rhetoric that comes out of the Reform party. If another by-election is triggered following the conclusion of the inquiry, I really don’t know how I’ll vote!

At the end of the day he got 13 thousand votes more than a bin, but what a big baby. I do think it’s an absolute disgrace that Farage couldn’t even be bothered to do his voters the courtesy of turning up for the vote announcement. People who took an hour out of their day and left their homes in 33 degree heat to stand in a queue at some godforsaken church hall to show their support for him and he couldn’t be arsed to attend the count and thank them, even though they’re the ones who got him over the finish line.

Most of the people he called ‘nobodies’ were local residents who had made the time and effort to exercise their democratic right and stand for election, and he should have acknowledged their participation and thanked them as is traditional and normal.

That shows contempt and I guess it pretty typical of how he treats the very place and people he’s supposed to champion. it’s treated them as little more than useful idiots.

And can we stop saying establishment now? We all know Nigel is the establishment and we all know there’s some party three line whip that makes everyone say it every third sentence. It sounds fake and meaningless and shite.

Trust me, life is too short to point out the errors in your assertions. Hence my suggestion that you read and research more. Are you opposed to becoming more informed? Why?

Hooray for Binface! Single gins all round!

Farage got more than half the vote-13% more in fact.

Double Hooray for Farage! Double gins all round!

Farage has managed to make himself look pathetic again by refusing to attend the election winner announcement because he was scared of sharing the stage with a bin...

And he lied about the police advising him not to attend.

So he is just a coward and a liar who wasted taxpayer money.

On the plus side now the investigation into dodgy Reform donations can resume.

Is there anyone you'd be embarrassed to vote for?

Yes, thought that might be your response because, believe me, if you could point to any factual error in my post, then you would have undoubtably done so!

😂😂😂

Well said.

Nigel is socking it to the establishment by shooting himself in the foot, so I suppose it does make sense in a way.

Your man was comprehensively humiliated and you're trying to repurpose that as some kind of wild victory. Hilarious, the lack of awareness from Faragists who'd publicly defend him if he stamped on a puppy.

Why would you think that? Do you have such a high opinion of yourself that you expect people to spend time picking through the sea of dross that you post? The fact that you maintain a straight face while asserting that we all know this and we all know that (insert bizarre claim) says it all.

So as predicted NF won back the seat he resigned from.

That's democracy I suppose.

However, it's ironic that the one thing being constantly spoken about is his complete lack of manners, lying, and his total cowardice in not turning up for the result. Not his win, not the number of votes he got, not the turnout, not Binface, not the weather, no - this.

Exactly, @parall .

And there is now more attention on the investigation than before, because he’s put on such a performance to avoid scrutiny.

Reform is losing support and Farage has become a liability.

Happy to help here @ClarkeandNewman since @BluebellsAndBorage insists on their errors being highlighted.

I'm sure Burnham wishes he had won 63.3%, the figure Farage won.
E1. This is your speculation not a factual statement.

Just to remind you, Burnham won 53% of the Makerfield vote.
E2: it was 54.8% of the vote, not 53%.

Rather than feeling humiliated, Burnham felt that that was enough of a mandate to automatically become PM.
E3. Winning Makerfield didn't automatically make Burnham PM. It made him an MP. Becoming Labour leader required a process.

I think most people knew Binface was a Labour Candidate in all but name.
E4. Binface wasn't a Labour candidate. He represents the Count Binface Party and literally stood against Labour in the Makerfield election.

That was one of the reasons he only won 26%, despite having the backing of many Labour lovies
E5: Again, this is your speculation not a fact.

Yes, a pyrrhic victory indeed.

I wonder how soon an enthusiastic Committee can convene to forensically investigate the donations, who the donors are, and most importantly why they donated such vast sums to someone who (to me) is a charlatan, but with connections and the potential to influence and propagandise.

Thank you. Rhetorically speaking, BluebellsAndBorage's post was a useful exercise in understanding populist tactics all right, even if it contributed little else of note!

Anyway, when all's said and done, what can we take from this farce? That the only by election Mr Farage's rotten, racist party can win is one that's essentially uncontested. That he's too frightened or contemptuous of his own voters to show up at the count and thank his opponents. That far from avoiding accountability, he's actually increased the focus on his dodgy dealings. That ultimately his political legacy won't be the politician who overthrew democratic norms but the man who stood against a dustbin because he couldn't come up with any more reasonable opponents.

Slow hand clap for Mr Farage. Or a conventional one for his services to popping the balloon of far right populism!

It's hardly equivalent. Andy won resoundingly against established political parties- the establishment is n fact. Just to contextualise, the gap.was similar to ' safe' conservative seats against Labour prior to the last election. Only Binface isn't even a political party with all those resources.