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Whats the point of consent and asking permission if you get lied to

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 17:52

Whats the point of consent and permission ? friends meal and they cover the cost, they said here is x amount get what you want, so permission is asked what the limit is eg £20 and i can get whatever food / takeaway with it, the yes permission is given that i can buy what i want within the budget.

turns out a day or two after wards a sarcastic comment was made because i had 2 jacket potatoes with different toppings, so i said why is that an issue and it turns out that they still thought id get one instead of two ,

so i said i asked permission of what the budget was and i did ask what i could get then all i got was oh id still thought you would get 1 so i said why then say i can get x why not just say and be honest.

i guess this is more me moaning but why do people do this, say yes to x then they actually want you do to x instead its like why ?

before anyone asks we usually do a weekly meal out, and no they are fairly wealthy

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MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 21:52

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 21:47

Really? I’ll happily eat a chip shop supper but they’re quite heavy! I can see why OP opted for a JP as a battered sausage once a week seems a bit much

A battered sausage once a week seems a bit much?!?!?!

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 21:54

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 21:52

A battered sausage once a week seems a bit much?!?!?!

🤣 tbf I’m vegetarian

i guess growing up it was a bit of a treat and we didn’t/don’t really eat deep fried food so I guess I'm the anomaly!

MademoisellePraline · Yesterday 21:54

FaceEatingLeopard · Yesterday 21:45

Bugger me backwards is this still going on?

In a nutshell:

OP is repeatedly greedy when someone else is picking up the bill. The friend hasn't actually moaned but expressed surprise as how much excess OP seems happy to order on more than one occasion. OP has no shame and just takes and takes. OP never makes any genuine effort to actually pay, knowing (because her friend actually has manners/etiquette) that the friend will say "No, no, I've got this" and OP just sits back and takes advantage every week. Then plays the "oh but she insisted" card.

OP claims she is "baffled" at her friend's "cryptic" instructions. Frankly, the two jacket potatoes have grasped it by now.

BudgetBuster · Yesterday 21:55

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 21:40

no it was i thought you would only order 1 potatoe rather than 2

So she didn't actually moan... she made a factual comment?

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 21:58

Who eats TWO jacket potatoes?! ! You ordered two meals. Pub/restaurant portions are already larger than what most people would eat at home. Did you manage to finish them both??
You took the mick, OP.

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 22:01

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 21:58

Who eats TWO jacket potatoes?! ! You ordered two meals. Pub/restaurant portions are already larger than what most people would eat at home. Did you manage to finish them both??
You took the mick, OP.

To be fair jacket potatoes nowadays are tiny (not agreeing with getting 2 meals but spud sizes now are small)

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 22:02

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 21:58

Who eats TWO jacket potatoes?! ! You ordered two meals. Pub/restaurant portions are already larger than what most people would eat at home. Did you manage to finish them both??
You took the mick, OP.

they were medium and not great sizes

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 22:03

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 22:01

To be fair jacket potatoes nowadays are tiny (not agreeing with getting 2 meals but spud sizes now are small)

thats why i ordered 2

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murasaki · Yesterday 22:04

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 22:02

they were medium and not great sizes

It doesn't matter. It was 2 dinners. Stay at home if you can't grasp this.

FaceEatingLeopard · Yesterday 22:05

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 21:49

its been a good debate, and yes im in the wrong

"It's been a good debate"

It's been a say what now? Have you any idea at all what a debate actually is? I can tell you what it isn't. It isn't this where someone goes on for Christ alone knows how many pages about the same nonsensical thing consistently referencing a fictional character from a fairly shit television programme by way of mitigation. That's what it isn't.

Now do excuse me - I have to go and reset my digital earrings.

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 22:06

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 21:41

I could, couldn't most of us?

No, not every week! Maybe every few months.

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 22:08

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 22:06

No, not every week! Maybe every few months.

The days of a Friday chip shop take-out was obviously not part of your life.

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 22:09

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 22:02

they were medium and not great sizes

I really wish you'd photographed them for us to gauge for ourselves as you seem to have a somewhat skewed view of the world....

MademoisellePraline · Yesterday 22:09

FaceEatingLeopard · Yesterday 22:05

"It's been a good debate"

It's been a say what now? Have you any idea at all what a debate actually is? I can tell you what it isn't. It isn't this where someone goes on for Christ alone knows how many pages about the same nonsensical thing consistently referencing a fictional character from a fairly shit television programme by way of mitigation. That's what it isn't.

Now do excuse me - I have to go and reset my digital earrings.

consistently referencing a fictional character from a fairly shit television programme by way of mitigation

Well that's me fucking creased 👌😁

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 22:10

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 22:08

The days of a Friday chip shop take-out was obviously not part of your life.

Nope! We couldn't afford a takeaway every week. Fish and chips was a rare treat growing up.

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 22:11

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 22:10

Nope! We couldn't afford a takeaway every week. Fish and chips was a rare treat growing up.

We couldn't either, but it was a well known tradition.

BudgetBuster · Yesterday 22:26

shrunkenhead · Yesterday 22:10

Nope! We couldn't afford a takeaway every week. Fish and chips was a rare treat growing up.

If you find a friend like the OPs you could have it every week for free

CowboyBuilders · Yesterday 22:26

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 22:11

We couldn't either, but it was a well known tradition.

Origins of fish and chips

Fish and chips combined two immigrant food traditions in 19th-century England. Sephardic Jewish refugees brought fried fish from Spain and Portugal, while fried potato chips developed in Western Europe. Street vendors sold them separately before shops united them into a single meal.

MatriarchCaz · Yesterday 22:30

CowboyBuilders · Yesterday 22:26

Origins of fish and chips

Fish and chips combined two immigrant food traditions in 19th-century England. Sephardic Jewish refugees brought fried fish from Spain and Portugal, while fried potato chips developed in Western Europe. Street vendors sold them separately before shops united them into a single meal.

Edited

The tradition of "Fish and Chip Friday" combines ancient religious rules with 19th-century working-class food culture. Christians historically avoided eating land meat on Fridays to honor the crucifixion of Jesus, choosing fish instead. When cheap fried fish and chips became a popular industrial-era meal, Friday naturally became the ultimate night for the pairing. 1, 2, 3, 4]

Fish and chips - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_and_chips

Minasama · Yesterday 23:08

I think you don’t expect someone to order double, or order something from the expensive half of the menu, when you have offered to pay for their dinner knowing they are struggling financially.

ImmortalSnowman · Yesterday 23:09

MademoisellePraline · Yesterday 22:09

consistently referencing a fictional character from a fairly shit television programme by way of mitigation

Well that's me fucking creased 👌😁

I read your perfect synopsis in Jim Parsons voice ... "previously on The Big Bang Theory .."

FluffMagnet · Yesterday 23:21

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 20:20

my point is why do people do this, why not answer with a proper answer when asked then stick to it.

As explained before, when people understand social etiquette, they do not need the etiquette rules said out loud. So for most people, the answers you were given would simply be further guidance on top of the basic, unsaid rules and therefore are not wrong or the opposite of what is being meant.

By way of analogy, if someone asked for directions when driving, you would say "first left, through the traffic lights then second exit on the roundabout" but would not think to point out they should use mirror, signal, manoevre before turning, check the traffic lights are green before proceeding and give way to the right on the roundabout, because we assume that knowledge is known and understood already. It does not make the directions any less valid or wrong.

PeachesSansCream · Yesterday 23:28

This is the most infuriating thread and most stubborn, obtuse, greedy CF poster I think I’ve ever seen on here!

do you have any other friends?? I’d be grateful for these ones, if they have any sense they won’t stick around much longer…..

PeachesSansCream · Yesterday 23:31

how old are you? Do you work? Have a partner?

I’m intrigued as to how someone so pigheaded and ignorant functions in day to day life, you don’t seem to have any awareness of social norms/human behaviour at all!

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Today 00:08

PeachesSansCream · Yesterday 23:31

how old are you? Do you work? Have a partner?

I’m intrigued as to how someone so pigheaded and ignorant functions in day to day life, you don’t seem to have any awareness of social norms/human behaviour at all!

how is it pigheaded ?

you ask someone if they want a cuppa they say no,
you ask someone if they want dinner they say no
you ask in the supermarket if the item is 0.99p

all are yes or no answers

so why when someone says you can order what you want, be any different , that was my point

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