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Whats the point of consent and asking permission if you get lied to

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 17:52

Whats the point of consent and permission ? friends meal and they cover the cost, they said here is x amount get what you want, so permission is asked what the limit is eg £20 and i can get whatever food / takeaway with it, the yes permission is given that i can buy what i want within the budget.

turns out a day or two after wards a sarcastic comment was made because i had 2 jacket potatoes with different toppings, so i said why is that an issue and it turns out that they still thought id get one instead of two ,

so i said i asked permission of what the budget was and i did ask what i could get then all i got was oh id still thought you would get 1 so i said why then say i can get x why not just say and be honest.

i guess this is more me moaning but why do people do this, say yes to x then they actually want you do to x instead its like why ?

before anyone asks we usually do a weekly meal out, and no they are fairly wealthy

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:09

gamerchick · Yesterday 18:03

WHY haven't you offered?

because they usually say they pay x for the meal when i do or have offered

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:09

Shinyandnew1 · Yesterday 18:08

Why would you need to eat 2 jacket potatoes? Do you normally eat double helpings?

they were only medium sized ones, so not large

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MolkosTeenageAngst · Yesterday 18:10

I think in this context ‘get what you want’ means choose any meal from the menu, it doesn’t however mean to choose two meals. Just because a budget was given doesn’t mean to get two meals because they are within budget. Doing this seems greedy and like you’re trying to make the most out of your friend’s generosity which is rude.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 18:10

Did you get them both on the one plate?
what did they order?

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:10

Seagulldancing · Yesterday 18:07

Unless of course you are a teenage boy. Then 2 baked potatoes is a snack. But if someone is buying you a meal, why did you ask what the budget was? That seems very rude to me.

Edited

i asked the budget so i could be under budget

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:10

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 18:10

Did you get them both on the one plate?
what did they order?

they had fish and chips

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backformoreofthesame · Yesterday 18:10

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:09

they were only medium sized ones, so not large

A medium sized potatoe is normal

DH may manage a large if it’s a very active day for him

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:11

MolkosTeenageAngst · Yesterday 18:10

I think in this context ‘get what you want’ means choose any meal from the menu, it doesn’t however mean to choose two meals. Just because a budget was given doesn’t mean to get two meals because they are within budget. Doing this seems greedy and like you’re trying to make the most out of your friend’s generosity which is rude.

fair points but can you also understand my point about why say x when they think y instead etc

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:12

Scarlettpixie · Yesterday 18:07

It’s because you ordered what they thought was 2 meals, for most that sounds a lot. The person was buying dinner ie 1 meal. I do get what you mean though, if you’d had a different meal would they have minded say if you added sides or chose a larger pizza. Seems odd to take issue with you spending the’ budget’ on what you want.

Tonight my son, his gf and I will have a Chinese takeaway. I put what I want (£16) and know that includes some sides they will share. I then tell them to add what they want up to £40. There will likely be leftovers but that’s ok, I have given them a budget.

So in your case it was good to eat in one sitting up to the value of £20. Did you eat them both during the evening? If so I think it’s fine (although can see why they may have commented too).

The person who told you is shit stirring. There was no need.

both eaten together at the meal because they were medium sized ones to me 2 made it one meal

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Silvertulips · Yesterday 18:12

Because they didn’t expect you to buy 2!

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:13

Wac90 · Yesterday 18:05

You can be within the “rules” and still be taking liberties. This was taking liberties.

true but then why say x etc thats the frustrating part

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Butchyrestingface · Yesterday 18:13

Do you ever treat your mate, @MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe ?

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:13

Butchyrestingface · Yesterday 18:13

Do you ever treat your mate, @MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe ?

i offer but its usually there treat etc

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ineedadehumidifier · Yesterday 18:14

Op, you seem to be missing the social nuance here. Firstly, it’s unusual for someone else to pay, every time you go out. Surely, you must see that? Also, it is unusual for someone to order two full plates of food? Surely you must see that too?

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 18:15

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:13

true but then why say x etc thats the frustrating part

they meant have what you want from the menu (1 meal) up to a maximum of £20 Which is how most people would interpret it

not here’s £20, but whatever you like

dressing it up as asking for consent etc etc is bizarre tbh

Raindropskeepfallingon · Yesterday 18:15

OP are you neurodivergent? Because this is exactly the kind of thing my autistic child would find difficult- navigating the unspoken rules of social interaction and realising what people mean as opposed to what they actually say. They also get frustrated when people don’t say exactly what they mean. I think you’re getting a hard time here because people think you’re being greedy or a chancer, whereas to me you just sound like you take things very literally.

ImmortalSnowman · Yesterday 18:16

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:13

i offer but its usually there treat etc

Start paying for your own food and order whatever you wish. Your "friend" probably won't be treating you anymore anyway after you took the piss.

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:16

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 18:15

they meant have what you want from the menu (1 meal) up to a maximum of £20 Which is how most people would interpret it

not here’s £20, but whatever you like

dressing it up as asking for consent etc etc is bizarre tbh

i should have just used the word permission

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2026letsgo · Yesterday 18:16

This is not the meaning of consent or permission.

Buying two meals is a piss take regardless of price.

category12 · Yesterday 18:16

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:13

i offer but its usually there treat etc

Stop accepting every time. Why is it their treat? Are they your granny?

If you're friends, you should alternate. You buy one week, they buy the next. Stop taking the mick.

Nousernameideaaga · Yesterday 18:16

Maybe it’s eat as much as you want not eat as much as you can?

BudgetBuster · Yesterday 18:16

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:11

fair points but can you also understand my point about why say x when they think y instead etc

Because nobody would would foresee that when you are getting a free meal.every single week that you'd be rude enough to order 2! They surely weren't going to say "The budget is £20 but don't be greedy and order 2 meals"

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 18:16

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:13

i offer but its usually there treat etc

So you offer once and when they say ‘no my treat’ say ‘yes ok’?

because if they are British they expect a bit of to and fro and you should insist!

if they are no better off than you I would be really embarrassed to accept their hospitality every time. Are there other issues at hand here?

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:17

ImmortalSnowman · Yesterday 18:16

Start paying for your own food and order whatever you wish. Your "friend" probably won't be treating you anymore anyway after you took the piss.

to me taking the piss is giving confusing answers when asked

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 18:17

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 18:16

So you offer once and when they say ‘no my treat’ say ‘yes ok’?

because if they are British they expect a bit of to and fro and you should insist!

if they are no better off than you I would be really embarrassed to accept their hospitality every time. Are there other issues at hand here?

they may be wealthy but still tight with £ at times

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