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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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randomchap · Today 07:54

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 07:53

I didnt buy as an investment. I bought to live in but was a victim of a traumatic crime so moved out quite suddenly.

I dont think anyone goes into buying a property and expects it to be unsellable

No property is unsellable. Reduce the price.

Fleetingmoment · Today 07:54

Question is - who would you rather…? 🤔

MindThePause · Today 07:54

I’m not convinced he’ll be PM for that long.

It’s easy to criticise from the outside. Much harder to be the one everybody is critical of. Even harder if people believed their support would lead to specific roles and now feel betrayed.

I sniff a GE in the future, well before the official term expires. Probably to do what T. May wanted and attempt to get a “legitimate” mandate for a new leader with new plans.

Lentilcakes · Today 07:54

We have assets too but DH’s business which is our main source of income isn’t doing well. First time he’s had to make someone redundant.
COL increased massively as adult DC come back home to live and neither are working f/t (applying post-uni, one works part-time).
Working is hard for me as I have some medical conditions so I work for DH.
I’m worried that he’s going to increase corporation tax - NIC increase had been bad enough.

Redpaisley · Today 07:55

Pippin2017 · Today 07:43

He didn't but there was a concerted hate campaign on the media and social media against Keir Starmer the likes of which I have never seen before, much of it probably from overseas bad actors who do not wish the UK well.

Why did Andy Burnham and other labour MPs agreed to replace Starmer? You think Burnham won’t be criticised by media or foreign bad actors? So then every 2 year we expect a new face?

TallSturdyGirls · Today 07:55

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 07:51

You are embarrassing yourself by reusing an excuse that is now over a decade old!!!!

Seriously. If you don't know that Brexit will financially scupper us forever, you do not understand basic economics. Strangely, the only people that benefited financially from Brexit were the incredibly rich. You know, the sort of rich people that bung, the person that fought for Brexit to happen five million pounds (for no good reason of course).

NoTimeForThisShit · Today 07:56

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 07:51

You are embarrassing yourself by reusing an excuse that is now over a decade old!!!!

Oh dear… Tell me you know nothing about economics without telling me you know nothing about economics

EasternStandard · Today 07:57

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 07:53

I didnt buy as an investment. I bought to live in but was a victim of a traumatic crime so moved out quite suddenly.

I dont think anyone goes into buying a property and expects it to be unsellable

Even with the mn catnip of mentioning private fees and btl you have more agreeing with votes.

Sereine · Today 07:57

redange · Today 01:35

More left wing damage done in 2 years than the previous 50 years..

Did you not notice the horrific damage done in the preceding 14 years?

Katemax82 · Today 07:59

Op will the council not buy your rented out home from you? I've no clue how it works but that might be an idea

Sereine · Today 08:00

If your house won't sell, it's because you're asking too much for it.

Have you bothered to find out about applying for an EHCP for your child? It's ridiculous to say that you won't get special educational provision funded on the basis of third hand misinformation.

likeafishneedsabike · Today 08:00

MumofCandR · Today 04:33

Where's the violin? 'I send my son to private school and own a second home', hardly counts as being on poverty line, which is clearly what no one should aspire or compare their situation to. Deeply routed structural issues driven by years of austerity measures shaped by conservative dogma is hardly a future to aspire too. Mortgage increases driven by conservative 'strategy' (remember Liz Truss?), buy to let tax landscape changes tanking landlord profitability (conservative policy)..... The list goes on. You're worried about the wrong things. There is no magic wand to reverse in a short period of time policies that brought us where we are today through many cycles of conservative governance. Personal responsibility has to come into this - there is no world in which a property in the UK that's in a position to rent out can't be sold, the price is too high for the market. Take ownership of your own life and what's in your control and take personal responsibility.All government policy, of any political colour takes years to trickle through and improve embedded structural issues and economic outcomes. Tackle what you can in your own life and don't wait for the 'man in shining armour' who will sweep in and fix everything overnight, that simply won't to happen. The issue is historic conservative government policy and macro economics. Previous conservative policy and the lunacy of countries like America who have chosen to unilaterally war monger have negatively impacted world stability and the economic landscape and there is no quick fix.

Absolutely all of this. The audacity of bleating about private school fees and second home ownership is breathtaking.

Laurmolonlabe · Today 08:00

Ithink things are unlikely to be worse for you. The worse thing for you would be VAT on school fees- and that is already done. There is likely to be a benefit shake up, but you are unlikely to lose out on that, there is really no leeway for more income tax, taxing wealth is likely to be the way forward, which won't affect you.

LakieLady · Today 08:01

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 06:03

Labour has crashed the economy spectacularly.

There has been a bloodless coup to install a far left Corbynite. It’s no wonder you are so miserable op, every working person will feel like you. The only posters on here celebrating this development will be the freeloaders on benefits.

The silver lining will be that Burnham has no mandate, he does not have the consent of the people, so unless he is utterly flawless and has a master plan to genuinely salvage the country from this carnage he will be out - and we will have a General Election much sooner than anticipated.

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Burnham is nowhere near being a "Corbynite"!

Gardenandseawitch · Today 08:01

hattie43 · Today 07:33

It’s not just small businesses that are being screwed what about Landlords . Higher taxes , spectre of NI on rental income , increased reporting of taxes more accountancy costs , renters rights , licensing schemes , every which way they are taking more and more . People talk of Landlords as being some vast property owing moguls but so many are one property accidental landlords or those who thought a small property would enhance their meagre pension . They would give anything to be able to give up but have unsellable flats .

Farmers have been unfairly targeted aswell .

No decent landlord would object to renters rights...

topcat2014 · Today 08:01

MumofCandR · Today 04:33

Where's the violin? 'I send my son to private school and own a second home', hardly counts as being on poverty line, which is clearly what no one should aspire or compare their situation to. Deeply routed structural issues driven by years of austerity measures shaped by conservative dogma is hardly a future to aspire too. Mortgage increases driven by conservative 'strategy' (remember Liz Truss?), buy to let tax landscape changes tanking landlord profitability (conservative policy)..... The list goes on. You're worried about the wrong things. There is no magic wand to reverse in a short period of time policies that brought us where we are today through many cycles of conservative governance. Personal responsibility has to come into this - there is no world in which a property in the UK that's in a position to rent out can't be sold, the price is too high for the market. Take ownership of your own life and what's in your control and take personal responsibility.All government policy, of any political colour takes years to trickle through and improve embedded structural issues and economic outcomes. Tackle what you can in your own life and don't wait for the 'man in shining armour' who will sweep in and fix everything overnight, that simply won't to happen. The issue is historic conservative government policy and macro economics. Previous conservative policy and the lunacy of countries like America who have chosen to unilaterally war monger have negatively impacted world stability and the economic landscape and there is no quick fix.

But surely we should be able to expect more out of our life than just avoiding poverty and homelessness, or is everyone with a crap job and somewhere to sleep supposed to be eternally grateful and forelock tugging

wishfulthinking25 · Today 08:01

Yep, we’re fucked. Feel like packing in my demanding full time job and going on benefits

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 08:01

Sereine · Today 08:00

If your house won't sell, it's because you're asking too much for it.

Have you bothered to find out about applying for an EHCP for your child? It's ridiculous to say that you won't get special educational provision funded on the basis of third hand misinformation.

I didnt buy as an investment. I bought to live in but was a victim of a traumatic crime so moved out quite suddenly.

I dont think anyone goes into buying a property and expects it to be unsellable

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MintSnail · Today 08:02

If he tries to make CGT the same as income tax that will hopefully trigger an election as he has no mandate to do that and it will kill all enterprise/ possible job creation. That or he may have to square up to Putin not the decks in a nightclub.

Cailin66 · Today 08:03

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 07:53

I didnt buy as an investment. I bought to live in but was a victim of a traumatic crime so moved out quite suddenly.

I dont think anyone goes into buying a property and expects it to be unsellable

Were bids placed on it at auction? Did those bids not reach your reserve?

vickylou78 · Today 08:04

What damage have labour done? Apart from VAT on private school fees? I am sympathetic with the situation with your child, but surely most people that have children in private school are doing it out of choice - they could choose to just send children to ordinary schools.

Sereine · Today 08:04

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 07:51

You are embarrassing yourself by reusing an excuse that is now over a decade old!!!!

Unfortunately the damage done by Brexit is ongoing, and that was always inevitable. You really have to be economically and politically naive if you really believe that it was over and done with in 2016, especially given that the referendum vote didn't even take effect fully until three years later.

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 08:04

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 08:01

I didnt buy as an investment. I bought to live in but was a victim of a traumatic crime so moved out quite suddenly.

I dont think anyone goes into buying a property and expects it to be unsellable

Apols - replied to the wrong post. I put it on auction and it didn't sell, I have a large mortgage on it. It's not about profit, it's about stemming loss.

The EHCP process is a long one. We're still on that road but what am I supposed to do with a highly distressed child? I have done all the courses through council, Autism charity etc. It hasn't helped

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BeSassyOpalSquid · Today 08:05

I actually don’t think Burnham will last long. Once in the role, the spotlight will be on, and I would not be surprised if Kemi makes mincemeat of him, let alone the media. He may well be revealed as a light weight in the role, which I suspect is what he is. Starmer and his friends may well stick the knife in if they can, though we might not hear about it. And there may yet be scandals and failures to be revealed connected with Burnham.

I expect Burnham to have a short reign, and either Cooper or Mahmoud to step in. For me, Mahmoud would be a relief in some ways, because I think she is likely to have more of a no-nonsense approach, however, she is certainly controversial for her participation in a protest march that will not sit well with a huge number of people. I really think it is unwise for a politician of any political persuasion to be seen to participate in a controversial protest if they are ambitious about leading the country.

I could be wrong, but I think Mahmoud’s parents had their own business? If so, she may be more sympathetic to helping small businesses and reversing some of the poor decisions by Reeves that have resulted in stagnation of recruitment, businesses going under, and have even harmed small charities due to added costs.

EasternStandard · Today 08:06

vickylou78 · Today 08:04

What damage have labour done? Apart from VAT on private school fees? I am sympathetic with the situation with your child, but surely most people that have children in private school are doing it out of choice - they could choose to just send children to ordinary schools.

Job losses and rising youth unemployment.