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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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Bullandbear · Today 07:42

BlueRedCat · Today 07:40

Which is really sad. I have to make 2 people redundant next week and honestly it’s just awful. We’ve had to restructure to cover the business rates increase. I think that’s being replicated all over the country now…

Those who deny it have no clue as to the real world, none.

Probably living in small provincial towns, with no commercial experience or exposure.

beAsensible1 · Today 07:42

Redpaisley · Today 06:56

I don’t know what op wants, I think she is not coming back. But I don’t want Andy Burnham, I want Starmer to continue his term, which sadly won’t happen because of backstabbers in the party. Starmer was doing a decent job given the mess he had to deal with.

When you vest your power and get in bed with backstabbers eventually they back stab you.

Letting mcsweeney shadow puppet him was a massive failing and He had a complete lack of ownership in his job. There’s only so many times you can use I didn’t know, I didn’t hear it, I didn’t read it before people lose faith.

Redpaisley · Today 07:43

concertinacornflake · Today 07:35

No one doubts this. You are right it is horrendously difficult.

People are questioning your lack of recognition that you are a long way from the bottom in terms of finances - what about those with SEN children in insecure employment, insecure housing and without parents able/willing to pay for private school, who can't pay for therapy?

Your post was phrased as being entirely about your personal finances, but really your issue is social support has been withdrawn from everyone.

Op didn’t say she is at the bottom in terms of finances. Why can’t she just talk about her struggles?

Pippin2017 · Today 07:43

Redpaisley · Today 05:39

There is no magic wand to reverse in a short period of time policies that brought us where we are today through many cycles of conservative governance.

Okay, so why Starmer needed to be replaced by Andy Burnham?

He didn't but there was a concerted hate campaign on the media and social media against Keir Starmer the likes of which I have never seen before, much of it probably from overseas bad actors who do not wish the UK well.

frozendaisy · Today 07:44

@OneWarmHazelQuail
try webuyanyhouse

that should get rid of the second house

possibly with enough to help with school fees at least you won’t be paying money for it

concertinacornflake · Today 07:44

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · Today 07:38

Placing the importance of social spending ahead of the need to grow the economy.

My point is if they've put the horse before the cart, they've got them in the right order!

Somesuch · Today 07:44

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 07:22

I have an asset on paper that I am unable to sell.

The SEN situation is bad enough that my husband and I, at our lowest ebb, both contemplated suicide. People often underestimate how difficult SEN situations are. I've done courses through the council, the autism charity, we pay for private therapies. The schooling is out of pure desperation.

How old is your child? As I have 3 children in their 20s with a variety of disabilities including autism so have lived a through the Tory years as a SEND mum and witnessed first hand the erosion of services within the education and health system. You haven’t. It’s appalling and the Tories should hang their heads in shame. Reform who want to do away with the NHS completely whilst having an even more dire school system on the back of zero policies and ability to govern even local councils aren’t even worth thinking about. Demonising somebody from a party trying to put things right who isn’t even in the job yet is ridiculous.

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 07:44

thepariscrimefiles · Today 07:41

You obviously live in a fantasy world where anyone that doesn't kiss Nigel Farage's or Rupert Lowe's fascist arses is a 'far left Corbynite'.

In what universe has Labour crashed the economy? Do you mean like Liz Truss did where we could see the impact in real time when fiscal shock that followed her disastrous budget triggered a violent repricing in long-dated government debt, sending yields sharply higher and forcing emergency intervention from the Bank of England? Remind me when the Bank of England had to urgently intervene following a budget from this current government.

Andy Burnham is on the soft left of the Labour Party, although of course hard-right people like you will label him as some sort of Marxist.

Look around you. Just open your eyes. Look at the rate of businesses closing down. Job losses are now mounting up.

Are you actually trying to tell me Labour have done WELL to date? Because you are in a deluded minority of one if that’s the case.

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · Today 07:46

concertinacornflake · Today 07:44

My point is if they've put the horse before the cart, they've got them in the right order!

Sorry, got my horse and my cart mixed up.

EasternStandard · Today 07:46

beAsensible1 · Today 07:42

When you vest your power and get in bed with backstabbers eventually they back stab you.

Letting mcsweeney shadow puppet him was a massive failing and He had a complete lack of ownership in his job. There’s only so many times you can use I didn’t know, I didn’t hear it, I didn’t read it before people lose faith.

Yep and sacking decent people as a get out didn’t wash.

TaffetaAndSobranie · Today 07:47

DreadedInn · Today 07:35

I’m so sorry that I took this quote from a pp and not their name. Just too fucking frustrated I guess, but this…

“Politics in this country is run like a live action role play for bored first year politics students”

Agree I think we need to re think how we do politics it's not working

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 07:48

It’s a bloodless coup by the far left.

The disgraced Raynor is going to be reinstalled. Along with much of those in Corbyn’s team.

Burnham has already burnt his bridges with the US before he has even begun with his comments on Israel and Gaza.

The party for working people? It’s beyond a joke!

EasternStandard · Today 07:48

BlueRedCat · Today 07:40

Which is really sad. I have to make 2 people redundant next week and honestly it’s just awful. We’ve had to restructure to cover the business rates increase. I think that’s being replicated all over the country now…

Yep. This is Labour, when pp ask what have they done to negatively impact lives.

Somesuch · Today 07:49

EasternStandard · Today 07:48

Yep. This is Labour, when pp ask what have they done to negatively impact lives.

Nope it’s Brexit and a whole host of other reasons.

LakieLady · Today 07:49

Duvetdayneeded · Today 03:51

The entire country is fucked. But mainly in the south or if you are not in benefits which is most the country. No issue for genuine benefit claimants but there’s too many who use it as a lifestyle choice.

Having worked in welfare rights for more than 20 years, it seems astonishing that I've never met anyone who uses benefits as a "lifestyle choice".

I suspect it's far less common than people think.

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 07:50

Pineapplewhip · Today 06:59

Move out of London, stop with the private school and just have an evening tutor, drop the price on the home you cant sell (you obviously are asking for too much). You can't tell me your life is so doomed - you have a lot more choices than 99% of people in the country.

A tutor? You clearly have experience of a SEN child. It's not about academics. My child won't use a toilet and spends his time at home screaming but is just very quiet at school

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EasternStandard · Today 07:50

Somesuch · Today 07:49

Nope it’s Brexit and a whole host of other reasons.

Do you know the taxes Labour put on businesses or anyone looking for work?

NoTimeForThisShit · Today 07:50

TallSturdyGirls · Today 07:29

The party that allowed the single biggest economic mistake that will continue to ruin forever is surely the one that hates our country.
The party that broke down the industries of the North with nothing to replace them with hates our country.
The party that sold off our water, trains, buses, gas and electricity to private often foreign investors who have bled them dry must hate our country.
The party, that everytime they govern leave NHS waiting lists much longer than when they started must just hate us.

Tory and Reform voters incapable of critical thinking

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 07:51

Somesuch · Today 07:49

Nope it’s Brexit and a whole host of other reasons.

You are embarrassing yourself by reusing an excuse that is now over a decade old!!!!

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 07:52

LakieLady · Today 07:49

Having worked in welfare rights for more than 20 years, it seems astonishing that I've never met anyone who uses benefits as a "lifestyle choice".

I suspect it's far less common than people think.

You clearly don’t get out very much

PatChaunceysFruitCake · Today 07:53

concertinacornflake · Today 07:41

Tax gap, including non-compliance and evasion costs something like £50 billion.

Edited

The other poster was referring to the welfare bill though @concertinacornflake

Whoopiedooo · Today 07:53

I wonder how he'll be as a wartime PM.

Totalmayhem · Today 07:53

When the f are the Brexiteers - Tory & Labour….and the general public! - going to put their hands up and admit it was a bloody huge mistake and that experts do actually know what they’re talking about. We’ve launched to the left because we’re now back in the 70s and the poor man of Europe….went well for Labour then didn’t it😬🙈 (#sarcasm for anyone who doesn’t know their history).

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 07:53

beAsensible1 · Today 07:30

btl landlords the only ones who think they have the right to their investments only ever going up.

everyone else acknowledge the go up and down and if they need to sell at a loss they sell at a loss.

nvm the fact the rentier economy is part of the reason we are so fucked

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I didnt buy as an investment. I bought to live in but was a victim of a traumatic crime so moved out quite suddenly.

I dont think anyone goes into buying a property and expects it to be unsellable

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randomchap · Today 07:53

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 07:51

You are embarrassing yourself by reusing an excuse that is now over a decade old!!!!

The damage done by Brexit is ongoing. The trading relationship with Europe is still fucked.

The fact that you're trying to minimise the damage it did, and continues to do, speaks volumes about your economic and political literacy.