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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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BIossomtoes · Yesterday 10:37

JimBobsWife · Yesterday 10:34

Such a shame there have been no other governments in power since Thatcher stepped down who could have reversed some of those changes.

Honestly, blaming Thatcher for everything is rather silly. Blair had plenty of time and political capital to undo some of what she did and he chose not to.

The North Sea oil money that could have been used for a sovereign wealth fund was spent on tax cuts. It’s gone. No subsequent government could unspend it.

JimBobsWife · Yesterday 10:38

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 10:37

The North Sea oil money that could have been used for a sovereign wealth fund was spent on tax cuts. It’s gone. No subsequent government could unspend it.

But we were still drilling in the north sea after Thatcher. What was that money spent on?

5128gap · Yesterday 10:38

EasternStandard · Yesterday 09:52

You’d just lower tax receipts if you stamped out any ambition. And everyone would see the impact of that.

This isn't about ambition. This is about a privileged woman from a wealthy family, with two houses, complaining that the new PM is unlikely to prioritising protecting her privilege. Which he'd be doing a poor job if he did while other people struggle to get a house at all and others can't afford food and utilities.
Ambition is an entirely different thing. I'd like to see people from all walks of life encouraged to contribute to their potential. I'd like to see increased taxes on wealth rather than income.

glitterpaperchain · Yesterday 10:39

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 10:23

My problem is that I'm caught between both ends of the spectrum. I don't receive the support that I need from the state but I'm also having to spend funds I don't have because I'm in a loss making position so I can't fund enough of the support I need myself

This is why we should all be pushing for a wealth tax

bigboykitty · Yesterday 10:40

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 10:23

My problem is that I'm caught between both ends of the spectrum. I don't receive the support that I need from the state but I'm also having to spend funds I don't have because I'm in a loss making position so I can't fund enough of the support I need myself

Your problem is that you have no idea how privileged you are and you're on here bleating about how unfair it all is.

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 10:40

HectorPlasm · Yesterday 10:36

End the benefits culture, cut the benefits bill. Fix that and other things will flow from it.

The biggest benefit is the state pension.

22% of pensioners are millionaires but still claim the state pension

glitterpaperchain · Yesterday 10:41

HectorPlasm · Yesterday 10:36

End the benefits culture, cut the benefits bill. Fix that and other things will flow from it.

I really, genuinely don't understand how people think the poor are to blame instead of the people who hold all the wealth, assets and power

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 10:42

igelkott2026 · Yesterday 10:19

Seriously? Brexit has damaged this country and the prospects of our young people massively as well as making it much easier for boat people to get here and not be sent straight back. Not to mention the debacle of Gibraltar and the fact that the so-called Conservative and Unionist government completely ignored the possible impact on Northern Ireland too.

There are absolutely no upsides to it at all.

Zzzzz

randomchap · Yesterday 10:43

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 10:42

Zzzzz

Such insights. Wow

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 10:44

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 10:40

The biggest benefit is the state pension.

22% of pensioners are millionaires but still claim the state pension

They’re only millionaires on paper. There are a lot of asset rich, cash poor pensioners.

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 10:44

5128gap · Yesterday 10:38

This isn't about ambition. This is about a privileged woman from a wealthy family, with two houses, complaining that the new PM is unlikely to prioritising protecting her privilege. Which he'd be doing a poor job if he did while other people struggle to get a house at all and others can't afford food and utilities.
Ambition is an entirely different thing. I'd like to see people from all walks of life encouraged to contribute to their potential. I'd like to see increased taxes on wealth rather than income.

Your assumptions are entirely wrong. Read all my posts.

Im from an immigrant family. Not a wealthy one. My dad has been a cashier for over 45 years on minimum wage. My parents worked hard and saved hard and continue to try and support me.

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LakieLady · Yesterday 10:44

BlueRedCat · Yesterday 10:31

that can be dealt with by putting in an uninhabited home tax. I’ve been advocating that for years. That’s a separate issue to the one at hand.

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Councils can already charge double council tax on homes that have been empty for over a year. Iirc, the multiplier can be increased the longer the home is left empty.

I've no idea how many councils exercise the right to do that though, or how much is raised.

ThatSunnyCrow · Yesterday 10:44

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 10:42

Zzzzz

What a coherent argument. You’ve convinced us all (that you’re a moron).

Crosorbled · Yesterday 10:45

The 20 th of July will indeed be a very sad day for the country , another car crash Labour leader.

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 10:46

ThatSunnyCrow · Yesterday 10:44

What a coherent argument. You’ve convinced us all (that you’re a moron).

It’s mind numbing listening to it for decades! Move on

ThatSunnyCrow · Yesterday 10:46

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 10:46

It’s mind numbing listening to it for decades! Move on

My mother taught me never to argue with a drunk or a fool. Have a lovely day.

Passaggressfedup · Yesterday 10:47

This is about a privileged woman from a wealthy family, with two houses, complaining that the new PM is unlikely to prioritising protecting her privilege. Which he'd be doing a poor job if he did while other people struggle to get a house at all and others can't afford food and utilities
This is exactly the problem. A massive focus on capital and wrongfully link it with day to day wealth.

It's becoming more and more common for people with capital to be less wealthy when it comes to every day life than some people on benefits.

This is leading to people getting rid of their capital and young people to have no interest at all in gaining any.

The outcome: a shit economy with a growing population relying on support whilst those with wealth are diminishing so there is less to circulate.

This is not specific to the UK, it's a more global problem where instant gratification is prioritised over investment in the future. One outcome is people in power, in politics, public sectors and businesses only staying for their personal benefits and disappearing when they've created even more shit. It's hard to see how this vicious circle is going to end.

glitterpaperchain · Yesterday 10:48

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 10:44

They’re only millionaires on paper. There are a lot of asset rich, cash poor pensioners.

They can sell the assets then

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 10:48

I give Burnham six months tops. He knows it too, but it won’t look awful on his CV to have been a PM - and he can make millions on the speech circuits after this shit show, so it will be worth the inevitable pain and failure.

BlackRowan · Yesterday 10:48

Cyclebabble · Yesterday 10:30

One of the most worrying things about a Burnham Premiership is that none of us have any sort of idea of what policies he will implement. One of Starmer's biggest mistakes was not having a coherent plan for Government, Burnham may be even less prepared.

I feel nervous that the Labour Party has moved to the Left. In terms of basics, the UK economy is growing only marginally, so any new major policy initiatives need to come from tax. Which means I think that I and others will pay more and therefore have declining living standards. Starmer failed to deal with rising welfare costs, especially PIP and I do not think that Burnham will even bother.

It’s not Starmer who failed to deal with welfare concerns- he tried. His own party failed him including his own welfare minister who it turns out was also working to bring Burnham in

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 10:48

bigboykitty · Yesterday 10:40

Your problem is that you have no idea how privileged you are and you're on here bleating about how unfair it all is.

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Do I not?

I'm from an immigrant family. My parents worked multiple minimum wage jobs and they continue to work despite being in their 70s. My dad spent most of his life eating bread and butter sandwiches for lunch because we couldn't afford filling. I was taught to dry out and re-use nasal tissues because each tissue was expensive (very unhygienic, I know). I know poverty. Please don't lecture me about poverty.

Your assumptions are astounding.

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BIossomtoes · Yesterday 10:49

glitterpaperchain · Yesterday 10:48

They can sell the assets then

The asset is usually a house, particularly in London, where are they supposed to live?

bigboykitty · Yesterday 10:49

HectorPlasm · Yesterday 10:36

End the benefits culture, cut the benefits bill. Fix that and other things will flow from it.

Do you think?

To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?
HectorPlasm · Yesterday 10:50

glitterpaperchain · Yesterday 10:41

I really, genuinely don't understand how people think the poor are to blame instead of the people who hold all the wealth, assets and power

I didn't say end benefits. I said end the culture which has moved from being something those in need rely on - and is fully compatible with a functioning society - to a lifestyle choices for many. I'm not advocating not helping those that need it - far from it. I'm advocating addressing some of the lazy decisions on who gets what benefits and why.

BlueRedCat · Yesterday 10:50

LakieLady · Yesterday 10:44

Councils can already charge double council tax on homes that have been empty for over a year. Iirc, the multiplier can be increased the longer the home is left empty.

I've no idea how many councils exercise the right to do that though, or how much is raised.

Im talking about £100k tax for an expensive empty home not £5k. Thats a rounding error to a Wealthy person.

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