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AIBU to feel miffed about my family getting Irish passports?

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Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:32

AIBU to feel miffed my DH & kids are getting Irish passports? They all have UK passports and it seems a luxury to pay twice.

I can’t get an Irish passport, but my DH and DC’s can. I’ve pointed out I’ll be stuck in the long non-EU queues at airports whilst they go ahead through the EU queue.

Realistically unless any of them travel somewhere alone, it’s highly unlikely they’ll be with other family or friends with Irish passports so they’ll always be waiting on whoever they’re travelling with anyway so what is the point?

DH was very sheepish when a neighbour popped round with the signed forms this evening and was avoiding telling me what he’d dropped round for.

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BettyJoanPerske · Yesterday 23:14

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Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:16

ClementineFortyNine · Yesterday 23:12

You sound jealous. But this opens huge doors for your kids to live and travel in Europe.

I’m not jealous. Their some reason for getting them is to travel easier and get through passport control quicker - which is great if you’re trying with other people with EU passports.

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ClementineFortyNine · Yesterday 23:17

Freshtona · Yesterday 23:06

Not always. My husband and DC are Italian. I'm British. We got separated out under the new system and they went with him. I got sent to the British queue even though DC are very small

Agreed. It really depends on the airport. The ones I travel to, Brits cannot go through the EU gates even if travelling with Europeans.

@Freshtona you can apply for italian citizenship though.

PollyBell · Yesterday 23:17

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:06

They aren’t Irish citizens! We live in the UK. I have nothing against Irish citizens.

So how on earth are they able to get irish passports if they are not? and your whole argument is you dont want to stand in a queue so they all have to miss out?

Ahdnf · Yesterday 23:19

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:14

I don’t travel alone abroad.

I’m very nervous flier.

I’m not catastrophising every little thing.

We’re all different, the things in life you find a breeze someone else might find difficult and vice versa.

Find ways for you to deal with your nerves then.

Ahdnf · Yesterday 23:19

PollyBell · Yesterday 23:17

So how on earth are they able to get irish passports if they are not? and your whole argument is you dont want to stand in a queue so they all have to miss out?

Their dad is so they get it from him

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:20

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Wow….. you are very lucky if you don’t understand anxiety and how it overwhelming and panicky it can make you feel.

Just because you find a situation easy, it doesn’t mean everyone else copes with it. I’m sure there’s plenty of things I find easy that you’d find hard.

This is why people hide their MH issues, because others are so judgemental.

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Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:00

Because I’m anxious about being left in a queue on my own and then trying to find them afterwards.

You are probably not going to be in to this, but ime a helpful technique for anxiety is to ask yourself what is your biggest fear, what is the worst that could happen - and then accept that it really could happen. Helps highlight how pointless worrying is. I know it’s not easy to stop, but it is thought habits and having a strong wish to break them really helps.

In this case, is the worst case that you can’t find them afterwards? Then what would happen? You would few scared? I’m really not trying to be facetious, just encouraging you to break it down and ask whether you can accept the possible outcome and find some peace.

At any rate, I’m in the same scenario and I think I’ve only once had to go in a different queue.

coe78 · Yesterday 23:20

Strange post.
My DH and kids are Irish citizens and I join them in the EU family queue - we say we are exercising our Treaty rights (right to a family life). Very recently did this in Portugal who have fully activated EES and it was fine.
On exit I decided I was a bit fed up of the kids whining and sent them through the EU queue and did my finger prints etc at the non EU gates. It was a nice 10min of peace 😆
I won't get Irish citizenship as we don't have any plans to move there, but I'm delighted my kids have so many more options open to them.

Papster · Yesterday 23:20

Queuing is irrelevant
The important thing is your kids have citizenship of an eu country and can be unshackled from bloody Brexit

newtree · Yesterday 23:21

PollyBell · Yesterday 23:17

So how on earth are they able to get irish passports if they are not? and your whole argument is you dont want to stand in a queue so they all have to miss out?

The dad and kids are Irish citizens by descent, hence why they are entitled to Irish passports. They're not Irish residents though which is perhaps where the confusion has come from.

Ahdnf · Yesterday 23:22

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Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:22

PollyBell · Yesterday 23:17

So how on earth are they able to get irish passports if they are not? and your whole argument is you dont want to stand in a queue so they all have to miss out?

My in-laws are Irish and have Irish passports, so my DH and DCs can get them too, even though they’ve only been to Ireland once.

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Papster · Yesterday 23:23

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Send one of the kids who just won the lottery to stand with her

NoisyGreenNewt · Yesterday 23:24

Surely your husband will be more understanding of your anxiety and stay with you. It isn't unreasonable for strangers on the internet to question why an adult can't stand in a queue - but your family will know your history.

Equally, sounds like you can join the EU queue anyway!

Irish citizenship will do your children wonders for work and study abroad (or just grabbing a coffee while their friends wait in queues!) Also, most likely they will fly alone at some point or with only EU citizens. Anecdotaly, both my uni age girls would have missed a queue with an Irish passport in the past month.

RetiredFromExplaining · Yesterday 23:24

PollyBell · Yesterday 23:17

So how on earth are they able to get irish passports if they are not? and your whole argument is you dont want to stand in a queue so they all have to miss out?

If they hold an Irish passport they can go through the EU gates.

I have an Irish passport (thank you, Granddad). When we fly to a European country we join the EU queue and go to a staffed booth where I am waved through and DH has his British passport stamped. It’s usually easier and quicker for DH than waiting in the Non-EU queue.

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:25

Ahdnf · Yesterday 23:19

Find ways for you to deal with your nerves then.

Find ways to be more understanding of MH issues. If you wouldn’t tell someone with a broken arm just to heal it, don’t tell someone with MH issues just to deal with it either. It is not that simple,

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justasking111 · Yesterday 23:27

My mother was Irish I never bothered to get the passport. My son has just applied though. He's very excited. They're going to Kilkenny for st Patrick Day celebrations next year. So four new Irish fans.

Ahdnf · Yesterday 23:28

Papster · Yesterday 23:23

Send one of the kids who just won the lottery to stand with her

Dh and I are naturalised UK citizens. He naturalised years before I did. We used to be in different queues. He'd wait for me on the other side or we'd meet at baggage reclaim. That was it

supercrone · Yesterday 23:29

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:44

I’m anxious about being left on my own queuing up whilst they’ve all gone on ahead in a different queue.

Sadly we’re not all able to navigate these situations with ease.

Being in a queue on your own is a worry?

ClementineFortyNine · Yesterday 23:32

RetiredFromExplaining · Yesterday 23:24

If they hold an Irish passport they can go through the EU gates.

I have an Irish passport (thank you, Granddad). When we fly to a European country we join the EU queue and go to a staffed booth where I am waved through and DH has his British passport stamped. It’s usually easier and quicker for DH than waiting in the Non-EU queue.

This is not the case for all European countries.

Ahdnf · Yesterday 23:34

If someone has a broken arm, they get given a sling and then they wait till their arm heals.

I mean the next time you all take an EU trip you'll all be in a different queue. And you'll have to be in that queue and be separated for a bit. That's something you'll have to deal with.

IPoopRainblows · Yesterday 23:36

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:10

Have you read my posts or just jumped to conclusions? I have said several times I’m anxious about being left in a queue alone without my DH or kids. Airports are very busy over crowded places which I’m fine with when I’m with my family / friends.

Luckily some people have commented I can join my family in the EU queue which I didn’t know was possible.

It’s not a guarantee though, it depends on the airport. We were in the EU queue at Madrid airport and anyone with a non eu passport but in the eu queue with EU passport family members were told to leave and go to non EU Q,
edited to add just ask your husband and family to travel with their British passports when they travel with you.

Joliefolie · Yesterday 23:37

I've only read the OP posts, can see you have been challenged in the responses so no doubt I'm not saying anything new. Your kids are really lucky to be able to have EU passports, it is something to feel pleased about. Depriving them from that opportunity is going to do nothing to help your anxiety. Stop asking AIBU. Yes, you are BU, that's ok but you need to do at the very least some sessions of CBT to be able to cope with the queue situation (deeper therapy to address the why of it all). If you spend your life hoping for negatives (i.e. your family can't get the Irish passport that you are not eligible for), don't be surprised when you get negative consequences.

minipie · Yesterday 23:38

They’ll still have their UK passports so can travel on those if the queue thing is such a big deal.

That seems like a better solution than not getting the passports and turning down all the potential future benefits.