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AIBU to feel miffed about my family getting Irish passports?

363 replies

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:32

AIBU to feel miffed my DH & kids are getting Irish passports? They all have UK passports and it seems a luxury to pay twice.

I can’t get an Irish passport, but my DH and DC’s can. I’ve pointed out I’ll be stuck in the long non-EU queues at airports whilst they go ahead through the EU queue.

Realistically unless any of them travel somewhere alone, it’s highly unlikely they’ll be with other family or friends with Irish passports so they’ll always be waiting on whoever they’re travelling with anyway so what is the point?

DH was very sheepish when a neighbour popped round with the signed forms this evening and was avoiding telling me what he’d dropped round for.

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mumofoneOkayalone · Yesterday 22:54

But i dont get why you can't have one

Youre the mother of Irish descendants and the wife of an Irish man?

Yanbu x

SendforJulietOne · Yesterday 22:54

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:49

No, I don’t want to be left alone in a different queue whilst they go off without me.

Honestly that is ridiculous. You really do need to grow up.

newtree · Yesterday 22:55

Crumpetring · Yesterday 22:52

I don’t know if the rules are different for Irish passports but there’s a newish rule that anyone with dual citizenship needs to travel back into England on their British passport. People have been refused boarding by their airline for not having the British passport with them so check that before you stop renewing the British ones.

Irish passports are the exception to that rule.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · Yesterday 22:55

Mygiddyvalentine · Yesterday 22:50

We Irish are not in Schengen so apparently we are stuck in the long queues too. 😭😭😭

No we aren't ive been in the airport and irish sail through.

Ahdnf · Yesterday 22:55

mumofoneOkayalone · Yesterday 22:54

But i dont get why you can't have one

Youre the mother of Irish descendants and the wife of an Irish man?

Yanbu x

She'd need to live in Ireland for 5 years to get one

Mudflaps · Yesterday 22:56

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:40

How will your DH qualify? We don’t live in Ireland. My DH’s parents are Irish. Ironically my DH never even wanted to take the kids to Ireland for a holiday when they were little.

Now he’s claiming his heritage because the queues are quicker / easier.

This is the bit that pisses off me and quite a few more Irish, so many people from the UK and the US are applying for Irish passports but it has nothing to do with them having any interest, affiliation or love of Ireland but simply for ease of travel. I wish the grandparent rule would be looked at and reconsidered.

writergirl007 · Yesterday 22:56

They can choose to travel on UK or Irish passports whenever they travel. So maybe suggest they take UK passports when you are all together? Then when your kids holiday without you, or live abroad, they can use the Irish one.

Of course, your DH can go and live abroad too. Is that what worries you?

I have both passports. I use the Irish one if travelling alone but the UK one if I am with people I'll have to wait for in the other queue anyway.

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:56

Ahdnf · Yesterday 22:53

Don't be anxious.

Ahh thanks for this! You’ve totally fixed me, well done!! I salute you.

‘Don’t be anxious’ is like telling someone not to be physically ill, do you think anxious people want to be anxious?? They don’t, it’s an awful thing to suffer from, especially when strangers on the internet bash them.

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SnipSnipMrBurgess · Yesterday 22:56

Minasama · Yesterday 22:49

I really dislike this “passport shopping.” If you are from the U.K. you are not Irish - presumably your family do not sound Irish or live Irish cultural traditions.
I lived in Germany for years, I never got a passport (pre-Brexit) because as much as I loved the country I very clearly was not German.
I don’t think it should be possible for people who clearly are not a nationality to become that nationality.

Same, there are lots of people who still dont think much of us Irish or have treated Irish appallingly in their countries but they are first in line for one of our passports.

JHound · Yesterday 22:56

Minasama · Yesterday 22:49

I really dislike this “passport shopping.” If you are from the U.K. you are not Irish - presumably your family do not sound Irish or live Irish cultural traditions.
I lived in Germany for years, I never got a passport (pre-Brexit) because as much as I loved the country I very clearly was not German.
I don’t think it should be possible for people who clearly are not a nationality to become that nationality.

Why not? It’s an admin exercise and in many places allows them to fully integrate into society. Especially if you intend to stay permanently. I was unable to vote or do certain jobs without being naturalised where I was living. Why would I shun that due to an accident of birth.

Also to your point - you would not get a German passport, despite living there as you were from elsewhere. That’s the logic that has allowed her children to have Irish passports.

mumofoneOkayalone · Yesterday 22:57

Ahdnf · Yesterday 22:55

She'd need to live in Ireland for 5 years to get one

Ah okay

JHound · Yesterday 22:57

mumofoneOkayalone · Yesterday 22:54

But i dont get why you can't have one

Youre the mother of Irish descendants and the wife of an Irish man?

Yanbu x

Because she has never resided there. Merely marrying and Irish man and having kids with him isn’t enough to get a passport.

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:58

SendforJulietOne · Yesterday 22:54

Honestly that is ridiculous. You really do need to grow up.

Thanks for your comment, I will grow up and stop being anxious now. I was just waiting on someone to tell me to grow up, cheers!

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BettyJoanPerske · Yesterday 22:58

I can't believe that you care more about waiting in a queue than you care about your kids having opportunities. YABVVVU

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:59

JHound · Yesterday 22:57

Because she has never resided there. Merely marrying and Irish man and having kids with him isn’t enough to get a passport.

He’s not Irish Tbf, his parents are. He’s never lived there, born and brought up here. And we’ve only been there once in the 22 years we’ve been together.

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columnatedruinsdomino · Yesterday 22:59

I’d be concentrating on why my dh was an underhand sneak. Why wouldn’t passports be a family discussion?

newtree · Yesterday 22:59

Ahdnf · Yesterday 22:55

She'd need to live in Ireland for 5 years to get one

3 years if you're married to an Irish citizen.

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:59

mumofoneOkayalone · Yesterday 22:54

But i dont get why you can't have one

Youre the mother of Irish descendants and the wife of an Irish man?

Yanbu x

His parents are Irish, he was born here and brought up here.

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JHound · Yesterday 23:00

Mudflaps · Yesterday 22:56

This is the bit that pisses off me and quite a few more Irish, so many people from the UK and the US are applying for Irish passports but it has nothing to do with them having any interest, affiliation or love of Ireland but simply for ease of travel. I wish the grandparent rule would be looked at and reconsidered.

I cannot believe there is anything to be miffed about.

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 23:00

BettyJoanPerske · Yesterday 22:58

I can't believe that you care more about waiting in a queue than you care about your kids having opportunities. YABVVVU

Because I’m anxious about being left in a queue on my own and then trying to find them afterwards.

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mumofoneOkayalone · Yesterday 23:01

JHound · Yesterday 22:57

Because she has never resided there. Merely marrying and Irish man and having kids with him isn’t enough to get a passport.

I mean i'll still be pursuing a hot irish husband but that is disappointing

JHound · Yesterday 23:01

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:59

He’s not Irish Tbf, his parents are. He’s never lived there, born and brought up here. And we’ve only been there once in the 22 years we’ve been together.

Ok but my point stands. Merely marrying somebody with an Irish passport is not enough to get one.

Ahdnf · Yesterday 23:01

Honeysucklelane · Yesterday 22:56

Ahh thanks for this! You’ve totally fixed me, well done!! I salute you.

‘Don’t be anxious’ is like telling someone not to be physically ill, do you think anxious people want to be anxious?? They don’t, it’s an awful thing to suffer from, especially when strangers on the internet bash them.

I mean you're choosing to be worried about it. Just think about it. Nothing bad will happen. They'll wait for you on the other side or at baggage reclaim. You have a phone to text them.

JHound · Yesterday 23:02

mumofoneOkayalone · Yesterday 23:01

I mean i'll still be pursuing a hot irish husband but that is disappointing

Good luck!

Potaytocrisps · Yesterday 23:02

Bushmillsbabe · Yesterday 22:45

I was thinking this. DH and my girls are getting Irish passports, but I understood I could only get one if I lived there for 2 years (I think?)

I think its great for my girls to get an Irish passport (although I do slightly resent paying for 2 and they could just have the Irish one unless going anywhere far flung where they night need British consular assistance but DH wants them to kerp both), I will be gently encouraging then to go to uni in Ireland as it's significantly cheaper than the UK, and living there for a bit may be nice for them for experiencing their cultural roots

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@Bushmillsbabe check it out, if you live in Bushmills you could end up eligible, I don't think it has to be the Republic of Ireland, just island of.

If you just drink Bushmills and don't live there then please ignore!