Neighbour and his england flag!

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Our NDN are both 80, and we don’t have the best relationship with them, we feel they can be a bit inconsiderate in terms of boundary noise. We’ve had to mention a couple of things which have affected the enjoyment of our home. So we don’t really speak anymore and they have clearly taken offence despite us mentioning things in a polite way.

Anyway, the man has put up a large England flag on a pole on the joining fence. It’s right at the front of the house and the pole isn’t particularly high so the flag flaps in our faces or visitors faces when they open our gate to go down our walkway. This morning I got pissed off with it as the wind is always blowing our way so the flag is always over our boundary and it looks like it’s our flag as a result (just to add I love football and have no issues with the flag itself, just the positioning of it).
So this morning I wrapped it round the pole and opened my gate to make a point that it’s a walkway.
Anyway, I was sat in my living room and I heard the man come out and say “someone’s wrapped that up!” In an angry loud voice.
AIBU to think that he should realise it’s a bit inconsiderate and could put the flag in an area that doesn’t hang over our boundary?

Completely see where you are coming from. Could they position it elsewhere? Could you politely ask if it could be moved as you’re concerned it might get knocked or damaged?

YANBU. If it's likely to be just a World Cup thing I'd ignore as it'll go down soon. If you think it's permanent I'd try to have a word (although I appreciate it won't be easy!)

Can you put up a notice so people know the flag isn't yours? You really don't want people thinking you might be supporting your country in the world cup do you?

I’m just thinking if we win the World Cup it’ll be up for ages. Plus the 3rd place play off. Also we’d be looking at the same issue again in 2 years with the euros etc etc

Pop round and ask him to move it because it is flapping in people's faces as they walk along the path.

If it’s just up for the World Cup then I’d leave it as it ends in a matter of days. That might be less hassle than a longer dispute if they’re a bit awkward.

Do you mean the St George Cross?

It finishes on Sunday.

Ask him if he has a right of overhang over your property. If he doesn't, he's trespassing and tell him you'll deal with it how you see fit.

In that case I'd seriously consider moving.

That’s generally the England Flag isn’t it?

If you haven't been on speaking terms lately no doubt he will interpret you doing that with the flag as an act of aggression towards them. Not that I blame you for being annoyed about the flag btw.

I think either you need to break your not speaking to them rule and try and talk to them about it. Or just put up with the flag on the expectation it will come down when the football is over.

On the whole I favour just putting up with the damned thing because in my experience if he k nows it is annoying you he is more likely just to leave it up to spite you instead of taking it down at the end of the tournament

As opposed to what?

There is only one England flag and yes, it is the St George Cross?

Of course she means the St George cross, which is the flag of England. What else do you think she means by 'England flag'? A picture of Mr Blobby and a Gregg's?

OP, absolutely YANBU. If it's hanging over your property, they're dickheads.

I'd chop it down ...

If Greggs did a flag I would absolutely fly it.
oh and Kerry Katona. Nothing screams patriotism like a Bavarian slice and atomic kitten 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

There is another England flag? Since when?

Why? Wouldn"t you speak to the 80 year old neighbours first and try and resolve the minor issue of the flag 'flapping in peoples faces' amicably?

What difference does it make if it’s a St George’s cross or another flag with ‘England’ on it? It’s still flapping over her boundary. Why ask?

There'll always be an England,
Where the High Street drinker begs,
And shoppers in their PJs pause
To fill their gobs with Greggs.

Have you actually told him its causing you a problem and eg offered to help him put it a bit higher?

I'd leave it for now. They're enjoying the World Cup and all the excitement which goes with it.Their flag is their way of feeling 'involved' (they may be 80 - but probably still feel like they did when England last won, if that makes sense).
Why not let them fly the flag and enjoy the next few hours/days?
You could even build a few bridges - chat to them about it, share their enthusiasm ... may have positive results for all of you in the future.
Just an idea ...

Seeing as it bothers you, just ask him politely would.he mind flying it somewhere it doesn't flap in your visitors' faces. No need for drama or passive aggression.

I"m jealous that you are getting enough wind to make a flag erected at head height to flap. We haven't had to so much as a slight breeze. But on the other hand, it must be annoying that it only seems to blow in your direction when visitors are coming to your property. Your have my sympathy.

She could break the ice by kicking a football through their front window, then knocking on the door and saying, "Please Mister, can I 'ave my football back?"

Then they could all chat about the World Cup while she helps them clear up the broken glass.