Why does everyone hate us so much ?!

[englandd]

I’m talking about being English, spent alot of time on the cesspit that is Reddit this World Cup and the vast majority absolutely hate England, I known it stems from the British empire but as far as I’m aware it wasn’t just England who were bad back then was it ? I mean Spain and Portugal took a big part in colonialism too but why is it just the English that gets the hate ?
Last night I would’ve been genuinely happy to support Norway if they went through, I can’t imagine hating another nation so badly. Maybe I shouldn’t take it personally 😆

Aibu ? Do we deserve the hate we get from something that happened hundreds of years ago ? For what it’s worth the British empire were ruthless and I don’t celebrate anything they did, but I also don’t think we should be punished still for something that happened so so long ago.

your response of ‘if you don’t like it, do one’ is illustrative of a lot of the issues described within this thread

Yes but dont forget we invented slavery, no other country before us ever thought of it 🙄 We also invented war and murder

Actually statistically you’re wrong. Argentina have scored the most penalty/set piece goals - 50% and have done a lot of rolling around. Arguably they were very lucky with decisions against Egypt.

France and England are similar with 29% and 30%.

Spain have scored the most goals from open play - 16%.

So no England haven’t been particularly reliant on free kicks and pens. They were very good against Mexico for instance, although not against Norway.

I guess the two goals he scored against DRC were optional

England vs Mexico?

Yeh leave it on Reddit. If people want to diatribe on there they can.

Or Kane.

In fact, yes, they’d be nowhere without their three best players and the spine of the team.

🙄

I really wish commentators would stop banging on about 1966 !
But the most annoying thing is when ( some) English people talk about the King of England. They need to remember there’s a world beyond the English border .

I really want to see us being ‘incredibly unbearable’.

Come on England!

England fans used to have a (very much deserved) reputation for violence and thuggery, but to be fair to our govenrment, the FA and fan organisations is has been cracked down on a lot.

Sadly football violence exists everywhere, we were in France last week and there were curfews in some cities (incliding Toulouse where we were) the nights of France games due to concerns from the authorities about post match violence.

I was about to respond to your first sentence, but then I read your second sentence and realised you weren't being serious!

😂 I'm not English but from a UE country. I wanted Norway to win because they are underdogs. I think many people who are not personally invested root for the underdogs. So I wouldn't want France, England or Spain to win- Argentina is the most "underdoggish" of them all I suppose so I hope they will win.

Imo people tend to associate English football with drunk hooligans and that's why you got a bad rep. Nothing to do with the English team that is quite sympathetic.

I admit that I was happy when the US lost- Nothing against their team but more about the imperialistic sense of superior country with their twat of a President losing. Especially since Trump tried to meddle with the FIFA judging.

I disagree that most people hate us.. I’ve just returned from Egypt and hotel staff went out of their way ( ie completely unprompted) to say how much they liked the English …
It was the English guests who chatted and joked with staff, English guests who were not demanding in the restaurant and always said thank you ( with a smile). I even saw some farewells with staff that involved big bear hugs.

"the Beatles, the Rolling Stones and countless others are never English, they're British..."

How are they never English?

I am English, speak 3 languages, and always learn a bit of the language of any country I visit. I strongly disagree with you. English is the lingua franca. Almost every person you meet abroad has some English and are mostly very keen to get some practice in with a native speaker, often to the point of rudeness if you don’t oblige. There is no obvious second language for us that comes anywhere near the utility of English and it’s actually pretty rational of English people not to spend time on language learning unless they really love it. I happen to really love it but that’s personal and I wouldn’t expect anyone else to.

It’s a discussion that will never get resolved…we see it as a bit of banter so please don’t take it too seriously! Just enjoy the football and support your team 🙂

They don't. Get off Reddit.

I'm Irish and as we didn't qualify for World Cup, I genuinely support England and wish them well - hoping they win! My Dad feels the same as we were chatting about the match yesterday.

Lots of other European countries had colonial empires that used slavery and exploited the rest of the world's natural resources, but while other countries have apologised for this, England (and "the English" in general) still glorify their colonial past and imply their former colonies should be "grateful".

Rubs people up the wrong way.

I LOVE the fact they do.

When it finally comes home, be it now or in however many years, think how SWEET it’s going to be

It’s coming homeeeeeeeeeeeee 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

You are obviously fact averse when it comes to how teams play.

We don't mean it but a football was mentioned in 1486 and Henry V111 ordered a pair of football boots so it may stem from that. I don't think we feel a good given right to winning although there were some who felt the "hand of God" was involved.

I loathe the media. But they are there just to wind people up. Like when they asked Tuchel if we had a mentality problem - what an appalling take. Luckily he gave him short shrift. He was right we lacked quality for much of the match but you could see they were trying to win and they were doing their best.

But then they followed it up by saying to Bellingham immediately after the game oh your manager was disappointed with your (the team’s) performance, to get a rise from him. Tuchel wasn’t disappointed with the effort they put in. He just knows they have more quality than they showed last night (not helped by the conditions as seemingly it was massively hot and humid). Luckily Bellingham handled it well but it was shit journalism not reporting the news but trying to create it.

Awful newspapers like the Sun, the Mail and Telegraph have constantly drip, drip, dripped xenophobia and Britain is best for decades. All of them owned by people who don’t even live here by the way… It winds up those who lack critical thinking so you do end up with the Johnny Foreigner mentality and Brexit.

It’s hard for those who see through this crap and didn’t vote for Brexit but nearly half of us didn’t and actually a lot of them that did are now dead so probably more than half now.

Did you read the post they were quoting?

That poster was talking about Andy Murray.

Apparently, Andy Murray is British when he wins, but Scottish when he loses.

So assume the poster meant we could say the same about the Stones, Beatles etc

They're English, but media say British.

The Andy Murray thing makes me laugh- what a load of shite.

Nah, I love France.