AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

As long as Harry is a Royal Prince, people will continue to believe that he's "done nothing wrong".
The latest revelations may well change this, such as lying to the court, but I suspect Harry will remain above criticism for many.

I agree with you, @Recklessismymiddlename
about the blame being put on Meghan, when Harry seems to be exonerated. . If Harry had explained about the Letters Patent for example, a lot of problems could have been avoided.

Well put, @CoffeeCantata. I think some people just don't understand that Harry has never criticised the Monarchy, nor would he, his problem is just that he's not getting enough privilege, wealth and protection - he thinks he should, by virtue of his birth status.

You are right he was taken in for i assume questioning and not released, i should have got my facts right before going off on a tangent, he is absolute entitled scum, but i think we can separate him from prince Harry and talk about both, fwiw i think PH feels as entitled as ABW because of their twisted notion of privilege.

I will look thank you.

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Yes, it's a fairly sordid tale - check out him putting a pill in her mouth.

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I'm not royalist. Andrew is an absolute repherensible human being, his association and behaviour with Epstein goes beyond any words I have and the way his mother covered up for him and enabled him was appalling.

However this doesn't behaviour doesn't give Harry a free pass to behave as he likes. It doesn't mean he's above criticism, traumatic childhood or not. It doesn't mean he can sit and tarnish and slander his family and then expect very same family to bend over backwards for him. And being "family" doesn't mean you need to accept toxic behaviour just because you share the same DNA. I don't know Charles personally but Im pretty sure he loves his son. That doesn't mean though he can't put in boundaries in place.

It's all very well people saying what they would do as a parent. And I don't doubt Harry had reasons for wanting to air his grievances at first. And things might, I repeat MIGHT have been salvageable and ok had he done the Oprah interview and left it at that. But no. He did a six part Netflix series, wrote a book and did multiple interviews to which he monetised and used to fund his lifestyle. You'd need to be made of Teflon to just ignore all that and welcome your relative back with open arms after that. I really fail to see why the onus is on his family to be making amends. No sane person would trust someone after that.

The way people infantalise is disturbing. He's not the 13 year old boy who walked behind his mums coffin anymore. He's an almost 42 year old father of two and it's still clear he takes absolutely no responsibility or accepts consequences for his actions. He's got a family to support and has now gambled their money on a ludicrous court case he has now lost. He complained his father, an unelected head of state refused to interfere in security issues that were run by a Government body. Despite his security arrangements being agreed, he took it upon himself to write to the Home Secretary demanding a review of this thinking they had nothing better to do despite losing his court case on this. And recently he thinks rotas and staff at Buckingham palace should just be changed at no notice, with no respect for anyone working there because he couldn't make up what he wanted to do.

He's repeatedly shown he thinks he's above the law. This was even shown in his recent court case with his statement and how he acted as a witness in court, completely unwilling or failed to see why he would be challenged. I can't see why anyone rushes to defend him.

Exactly. MMs hypocrisy is astounding

We know Harry and Meghan are the ones feeding the narrative, not the ‘men in grey suits’, wining and dining journalists and giving them information so they will write about them ‘looking sideway’s’ as you say. This is nothing new from team Sussex, it has been going on a very long time and is being proved time and time again that they not only leak to journalists, but they manipulate the information they leak. They have a private WhatsApp group with select tabloid journalists who they share information with.

H&M are sneaky, disruptive fuckers.

I'm not very sure I buy this idea that Harry is someone who puts his own family first either. How many hands on, devoted dad's do you know have time and energy to launch multiple court cases in a country 5000 miles away from the one you live in? And then put the security and finance of your family at risk by losing some of these court cases and being liable for massive financial sums?

And no doubt people will say that Charles will/should pay but he absolutely won't. We already saw (rightly) the backlash they had when they paid for the Virginia Guirrife settlement. There's absolutely no way the Royal Family are going to be wanted to be seen associating with this omnishambles of a court case given they weren't the ones who sued the Daily Mail in rhe first place.

Charles offered him a bed, but he didn't respond in time.
No where was good enough for Harry, so was offered the Palace.

Harry doesn't seem to have struggled to find somewhere suitable himself. Maybe the nearest Travel Lodge is good after all.

That is actually a very very good point.

He's moaned about other places He's been offered before.

So Charles has played a blinder, offer them the palace see what happens. And Harry knocks it back.
Just the same as he refused to take Archie to visit his Granny without a photographer.

Yes I also think they they were closer than she's making out here. Those messages aren't the kind between 2 casual acquaintances. And how did he put a pill on her tongue without her consent? She may st have opened her mouth and stuck her tongue out for some reason! I do feel a bit sorry for Harry here, as he clearly doesn't want to believe his friends were selling stories about him to the DM and would prefer to believe he was hacked, even though he was knowingly shagging a journalist!

He definitely said things in the Oprah interview that criticised the Palace not really stopped to consider who he was really criticising, ie who makes the decisions.

I wish I could remember his exact words but effectively he criticised his Gran, Dad and Brother

Yes, that's true. It was all very unpleasant. He's attacked the personalities, but not the institution, which he still wants to be part of.

Yes. It just shows you how important the titles are to them.

Yes, they obviously had quite a close relationship!

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How do you know what he would or would not have minded? Something tells me he definitely would have minded if "anywhere" turned out to be the Euston Premier Inn.

I agree @FenellaFeldmanwhen she posted that they called their daughter Lillibet DianA yet they consider the RF to be so toxic and damaging.

Harry is likely to have known the outcome of his trial at the weekend as the judgment would have been released under embargo. Maybe he shared a draft of his statement on it (accusing the judge of bias) with the palace and they decided they'd rather he deliver that in front of the gates of Buck palace (not a good look for the King to provide a venue for an attack on his own judiciary). Obviously this is speculation and I have no knowledge that this is what occurred. But it would explain an otherwise quite weird refusal to house him.

Yes, interesting! It just shows how much they really value the connection and how important the titles are.

It wasn't a "weird refusal to house him". He was offered an apartment at BP, with a deadline for the Friday for obvious housekeeping and security reasons.
He declined the offer on Saturday.
He then changed his mind. Understandably, this change of mind meant that they couldn't put everything into place for him and his entourage, nor complete security on time.
Perhaps he has no idea how much preparation goes into visits. Why would he?

I find it quite strange, I don't believe that the royals' security is so rubbish that they can't be agile if plans change at the last minute, and even if the king was pissed off, I would have thought he would have wanted to avoid negative press around refusing a room. I prefer my conspiracy theory but obviously it is just speculation!