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AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?

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mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

Headshot of Prince Harry in a blue suit, white shirt, and dark green tie looking off-camera in a room with several men in suits out of focus in the background,

Buckingham Palace says Prince Harry will not stay at palace

Royal sources say the Duke of Sussex had not responded to the offer of accommodation at a Royal residence by the deadline last week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

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CoffeeCantata · Today 09:30

Batcats · Today 08:26

Im not quite sure as well why people are saying Charles should be paying for Harrys security. Harry travels with his own that he pays for and to be fair to him, he's made that quite clear.

The type of security that Harry wants in the UK is based on decisions made by the Home Office and people are quite misinformed if they think that a constitutional monarch can somehow buy police officers or meddle in security decisions. How would it work anyway? Do people think KC will be phoning up Scotland Yard, credit card in hand asking to order armed guards for hire?

Quite right!

Also - I'm sure I read (but please correct me) that the sort of protection offered to Harry - not by KC, but by RAVEC - is exactly the same level of security which Princess Anne, Prince Edward and other royals further down the pecking order have. But he wants more! He wants to be like William or KC...or possibly Meghan does???

But the biggest problem Harry has to face is not getting IPP status back - it's regaining the trust of the family he slandered, libelled and betrayed to the world's media. He and Meghan wore wires to the Jubilee and I'm sure lawyers and courtiers have advised senior royals NEVER to be alone with him/them. And how can KC have a proper, father-to-son conversation with Harry now? I'd like some of those demonising KC to answer this.

How can Charles ever trust Harry again? That's the problem for Harry - so come on, Harry supporters, how do you get round that issue? It's massive. Harry is not only a personal risk to his relations, he's a national security risk who's shown he cannot be trusted with confidential matters - professional suicide for royals and politicians.

CoffeeCantata · Today 09:34

Oncemorewithsome · Today 08:42

I think it’s more than that. I think it’s a very hurt child wanting his dad to publicly aknowledge them. It’s no different from someone being upset because their dad posts all over Facebook about one child and how great they are - and the other child is silently ignored. This is blown up on the world stage but it’s fundementally a sad, family breakdown.

Or could it be that Harry, under Meghan's mesmerising influence, has allowed his children to be cut off from both their grandfathers, their aunts, uncles and cousins? What was he thinking?

And I wouldn't like to be Harry and Meghan when those children reach teenage years and hear about the relations they were never allowed to meet or get to know. I think the children will ask them some very difficult questions - and I don't think either of them have thought of that.

'Mommy, why did you let Grandpa Markle die without us ever seeing him? What did he do to deserve that?'

'Pa - why didn't we ever go see Grandpa Charles? And why didn't we get to know George, Charlotte and Louis?'

IAmATorturedPoet · Today 09:37

According to recent NHS data analysed by the charity, 16,522 people are still waiting for mental health treatment after 18 months, compared to 2,059people facing the same delay for elective physical health treatments, such as dermatology, ophthalmology and orthopaedic care. In recent years the data has continuously painted a stark picture suggesting those facing the longest waits for mental health care are now waiting nearly two years (658 days), more than twice as long as those needing elective physical health treatment*

@mathanxiety
What would these 16,500 people give to have the financial luxury of PH, to not have to wait two years for treatment, to not have to try and struggle mentally and financially to get through each day, to not have a therapist on speed dial.

So, I’ll save most of my empathy for those 16,500 who have to wait 18+ months for any help.

Just a further point that could be very relevant to PH, there is such a thing as too much therapy which leads to a situation called ‘analysis paralysis’.

PS. you do know Harry has a brother who went through the exact same childhood trauma, right?

Batcats · Today 09:55

I really get sick of this narrative that Harry is somehow some hard done by poor individual.

He's a 41 year old father of two young children and his children arent that much older than mine. I don't know any parent let alone those with young children who have the time and energy to go on multiple foreign trips and launch not one but multiple lawsuits in an entirely different continent from the one he lives in. Time and energy that no doubt could be spent on his young children.

MyPurpleHeart · Today 10:12

Batcats · Today 09:55

I really get sick of this narrative that Harry is somehow some hard done by poor individual.

He's a 41 year old father of two young children and his children arent that much older than mine. I don't know any parent let alone those with young children who have the time and energy to go on multiple foreign trips and launch not one but multiple lawsuits in an entirely different continent from the one he lives in. Time and energy that no doubt could be spent on his young children.

The irony is that H&M will never speak to her father again after he sold stories about them.

They wrote books, did interviews and even a Netflix series about TRF and KC is expected to give them bed and board?!

beanstoastie · Today 10:42

It's not unreasonable to say that Harry is a really crap son.

CoffeeCantata · Today 11:48

beanstoastie · Today 10:42

It's not unreasonable to say that Harry is a really crap son.

This post absolutely hits the nail on the head.

OP - there's your answer!

Batcats · Today 12:57

Oncemorewithsome · Today 08:42

I think it’s more than that. I think it’s a very hurt child wanting his dad to publicly aknowledge them. It’s no different from someone being upset because their dad posts all over Facebook about one child and how great they are - and the other child is silently ignored. This is blown up on the world stage but it’s fundementally a sad, family breakdown.

Of course it's different. I haven't seen any public statements Charles states he prefers one child to another.

And how many followers does the average Facebook post reach? A few hundred and a post that will get lost over time. Harrys written books and documentaries for which he's been paid 10s of millions to fund his lifestyle. Would you want to acknowledge or trust a family member who'd made a living making inflammatory comments about you? Comments that they know you are not in a position to defend.

And this the problem though. People keep seeing Harry as the same child he was when his mum died rather than the grown man he is now.

FenellaFeldman · Today 12:58

beanstoastie · Today 10:42

It's not unreasonable to say that Harry is a really crap son.

In a nutshell! 😂

deeahgwitch · Today 14:34

As @MyPurpleHeartposted “….The irony is that H&M will never speak to her father again after he sold stories about them.
They wrote books, did interviews and even a Netflix series about TRF…….”
So true.
Oh the irony.

SwingTheMonkey · Today 14:48

I’m neither a royalist, nor republican. My small town/village celebrated the wedding of Harry and Meghan by having a huge screen on the green - people bought picnics and little kids had Harry and Meghan masks. I thought she was beautiful and charismatic. I’ve always thought he was petulant and lacking in intelligence.
I think Meghan thought she’d come into the Royal Family and breathe a breath of American fresh air into the monarchy. They’d sigh and say ‘thank goodness you saved us, Meghan’. But the royal family didn’t want that and she realised her life wasn’t going to be how she envisaged. Both thought that they could pursue a life of celebrity and fame, whilst still retaining the trappings of royalty.
Now Harry finds himself frustrated, desperate to retain his royal status, whilst desperately throwing his family under the bus in order to remain in the public eye.
In my opinion, he knew full well that he wasn’t going to stay at BP. He announced he would be, knowing full well that the offer no longer stood and he could then play the victim card. ‘Isn’t my father awful, I just wanted to stay with him and he’s refused…’
He's also now using the children as pawns in the family battle. You can’t see my children unless you treat me as the VIP I think I am. Meghan is in the background boosting his overinflated sense of worth.
It’s all pathetic and I think Harry will regret his behaviour in years to come.

lobwedge · Today 14:53

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

He was certainly a crap husband to Diana so it wouldn't be a shock to find out he is a crap Dad.

Crudd99 · Today 16:14

lobwedge · Today 14:53

He was certainly a crap husband to Diana so it wouldn't be a shock to find out he is a crap Dad.

Diana was no saint.

CoffeeCantata · Today 16:43

lobwedge · Today 14:53

He was certainly a crap husband to Diana so it wouldn't be a shock to find out he is a crap Dad.

I'm in awe of the subtle, well-informed, nuanced and perceptive argument you present here. And original, too.

NOT. An rtft.

CoffeeCantata · Today 16:46

MyPurpleHeart · Today 10:12

The irony is that H&M will never speak to her father again after he sold stories about them.

They wrote books, did interviews and even a Netflix series about TRF and KC is expected to give them bed and board?!

This!

I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're absolutely right. Yes, the seemingly trivial grounds for banishing Thomas Markle to outer darkness pale into insignificance beside the treachery and slander, cruelty, character assassination and invasion of people's privacy which M & H are guilty of.

Do they really never think about that? I honestly don't think they think much at all, as in 'reflect on their past behaviour' and whether they might have caused or contributed to their current situation.

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