Pubs open til 5am, children encouraged to miss school by the England manager.

[canthavetoomanylights]

Surely this is going too far. I wouldn’t agree with it if it was the final.

I might ‘almost’ understand this if it were the final…but this isn’t even close! It’s ridiculous to encourage children to stay up ALL NIGHT for any reason…but this is just bonkers!

How is this unlawful? The school has every right to ban dc from activities if they think they are skiving.
You don't have to get a Dr's note, if your dc are genuinely ill then it wouldn't be hard to prove it.
Skipping school for a bloody sport is daft and sets a bad example to kids, what would your employer say if you did the same and said you couldn't come in because you stayed up all night watching football?

Football seems to aspire to a status beyond where a sport should be.
It's only a game, don't let people pretend it has some great importance.

So pleased that you are au fait with the training plans!

School my DS works in has got an 11am atart

I agree but let's be honest England are not likely to win.
That's not me being goady, it's just the truth.
Overtired, underslept children who are also going to be disappointed.
Some for adults.

If England were likely to win, that would tip the scales towards staying up.

😂 oh no the England manager has said let the kids stay off <wrings hands>

There’s 3 weeks left of school in most areas of England (lucky Leicestershire schools only have a week 😍).

There’s been no ‘skiving off’ in my school!

I've already dug out my earplugs specially for the occasion.

Neither of my immediate neighbours appear to be into football, but there's a family across the road who are very into it and very loud in their support.

But youre the parent? You have final say. Is it a case of you having to say the word 'no' and be the bad guy because the English manager has suggested they watch?

I tend to agree it’s unlikely and will be honest that I’ve said no to staying up. My kids are 9/11 and have shedloads on (including an 8am
start for summer show rehearsals on Monday) so would be far too wrecked to function if up half the night. That said when it’s one game anything can happen and if a family have this as a passion then it’s a nice thing to do together even if it ends in disappointment.

I’m not reading 11 pages of this, so it may have already been pointed out …..

He did not just say that children should be allowed up to watch and then miss school. He was asked by a reporter about that and answered the questions

Most reporting cut out the details, he was asked for a message to parents who’s children want to stay up and trying to get them to sleep, his answer was to just let them and write a note for the school

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg40qedq57o

From the posts I’ve read it would appear that a few parents have the common belief that it their children want to stay up and are allowed to stay up that many will fall asleep anyway

I thought the exact same! It it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then its a duck (a Scot!)......

I remember the 90s in Ireland when the Irish team were trying to qualify for their first world cup and schools and businesses often closed so people could watch matches or close early so people could get home (to the pubs) to watch them, honestly people need to seriously lighten up, the world won't end if a number of kids miss a few hours of school. I don't think schools should close Monday morning as some will have no interest but I think for those absent a note from parents saying their child caught a serious case of the world cupitis bug should suffice.

Parents should decide if their kids can afford a morning off school.

They can decide to keep them off school. They just can't say they're sick when they're not.

Football seems to aspire to a status beyond where a sport should be.
It's only a game, don't let people pretend it has some great importance.

I already quoted Bill Shankly earlier in the thread....

Probably not, but I’m Scottish 😀

It doesn't matter! Can we not all enjoy a bit of hope and lighthearted feelings for once. We'll all cope with the disappointment and aftermath obviously. We'll follow Scoltand's example <runs>.

It's all quite quite mad! What is it about football that causes people to go nuts? I find it utterly mind boggling... it is a game ... just a silly game. The England team will either win or lose. Life goes on. It's not even the final ... its just a passing match.

I can't imagine anything so unpleasant as being in a pub half the night watching a boring football match!

Then don’t go. It’s literally that easy.
Nobody will be forcing you to be there.

@lovecotswoldsliving lol. Judgy much.

And we’ve got a wriggler! 😤 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿… 😂

Having lived in Spain for a few years, I saw many small kids up around 11 pm on the weekends.

Yes match finishes at 3am. But it’s one day. For me no different from bringing babies or very young kids on long haul flights.

Most likely.
that ice cream has more than numbed her brain.

What pisses me off is that this level of commitment/excitement/hysteria seems to be reserved for men's football.
I don't remember anything comparable for women's football events, or men's tennis, or athletics (either sex), or rugby (either sex).
It feels like being compelled to celebrate. There's a touch of Borat about it – 'Stay Up, Get Pissed, Watch Football, Make Benefit Glorious Nation of England'.