To think England should get a bank holiday this coming Monday?

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Since England's World Cup game with Mexico is at 1am Monday morning, it seems only fair that we should get a bank holiday Monday, since Scotland got one for their World Cup game that was in the early hours of a Sunday morning. It would be a nice thing for Keir Starmer to do as one of his final acts as PM.

You can't just declare a bank holiday without notice!

I’m a big football fan and will be watching the game live.

I will also do the school run and go to work like I do every Monday, and don’t think there should be a bank holiday.

out of interest, has anyone changed their mind since reading this thread?

Did anyone but the OP think there should be a bank holiday? I think most realise it’s a bit far fetched but would take the holiday if offered.

No. We all know it’s a non starter.
But it’s sad it brought out the worst in so many.

As fate has had it, I have Monday off because I am visiting an elderly relative this weekend and I'd be severely annoyed if my employer told me I had to be in work just because of this.

Has your DH explained why he booked it and reminded them that it was months ago? Or is it because he's in the police etc so they need him?

They did for the Queen's funeral and thousands of operations and medical appointments were cancelled.

Call me a misery if you like, but you'd be moaning if your long-waited-for operation was cancelled because a few men were kicking a ball around.

The government estimated that the additional bank holiday for the late Queen’s platinum jubilee cost the country £2.4 billion in lost GDP. Some will claim that the next effect was lower because of increased spending in hospitality, but in the case of a game of football I reckon that people will go to pubs and bars and restaurants regardless of whether it’s a bank holiday. So given the parlous state of the British economy, throwing away £2.4 billion because a bunch of footballers haven’t yet got through to the quarter finals seems like an over reaction. Maybe if it was the final…?

Then why are you wasting your energy on commenting?

The OP asked if the football was worth a bank holiday because it's on in this country at 1am. Some people don't think football is important enough to warrant a bank holiday and are commenting as such. I personally don't consider football important at all so I definitely don't think it's worth a bank holiday. Not even if they won the final would I think it was important.

It would be a very boring discussion if only people who agreed with OP responded and the result was 100% YANBU. Of course, footy fans react badly to anyone who tries to diminish the importance of this overhyped, overpaid, commercialised sport and it all ends up in Yah Boo Sucks. Predictably.
I note that the vote so far is 83% against.

Well it doesn't look like the bank holiday will be happening, which is a shame. Hopefully people will still be able to watch and enjoy the match even if they have to get up for work later that morning.

Which us employers have to pay for. As a small family business, each Employee we pay to have a day off cost us money out of our pockets. We also lose productivity which costs money. So i’m assuming you don’t mind paying my five employees a days wages each? Don’t worry, I’ll cover the rest of the bank holiday holidays just not the one that you think they should have because it’s just like the rest of the days.
Do you actually realise that the employer pays that money?

The what? I think you had a problem finishing your last sentence there.

So would you rather we got rid of all bank holidays so you don't have to pay your employees for them?

My last job, a bank holiday meant a day less of annual leave so people need to bear in mind that not everyone has jobs where another bank holiday is just absorbed by the employer.

The what? I think you had a problem finishing your last sentence there

Pre match drinks, maybe.

Employers don't need to honor any additional bank holidays, as long as they meet the minimum annual holiday requirements.

i think it's becoming more common for bank holidays to just be absorbed into the annual leave entitlement. All my employers in the last 20 years have done that.

means I take the day when it's convenient to me not on a prescribed day

They don't have to honour any Bank Holidays

The game may be moved to 7pm on Sunday - so the bank holiday would be unnecessary. I don't know what would happen to the pubs opening late.

Use your imagination

Yet you are spending a lot of time on it.

True.

Banana?

It is now thought that the time of the start of play will be several hours earlier because storms are forecast. Could be 7.pm (19.00) Sunday evening

Hopefully people will still be able to watch and enjoy the match even if they have to get up for work later that morning

Genuine question, with no side. I have really no insight into football fanaticism because nobody I know has more than a passing interest. If that.

Do you enjoy watching the match even if the opposing team is wiping the floor with your team? Does there come a time when you have to switch it off, like if you are 9-0 down? Would you stop watching it then? Or would you still be entranced by the grace and skill of the opposing team? Would you cheer for their superior game playing? Would you nod your head in acceptance that the better team won?

I arrived in Leeds City Station some years ago, 6pm ish,to a wall of yellow vest clad policemen linked arm in arm, holding back a huge chanting crowd of football fans 1000s. of them. They just kept on coming (in the station!) I have no idea why they were converging on the station. I couldn't get out of there. It was very frightening. The police advised everyone to scatter and seek refuge on the platform from whence they came. Station staff allowed us back on the platform without tickets to travel. There had been a lot of trouble in the city centre and football fans had staged a march through the main streets for God knows what reason. Apparently a match had been lost and they were a bit cross. The march of 1000s of drunken chanting blokes lasted at least half an hour. My hotel was 2 minutes walk from the station, but it was over an hour before I was able to walk over freely to check in.

So I said to one policeman, that I hadn't realised there was a match at Elland Road today. He said, well no there wasn't. It was some match in Brazil or somewhere equally distant that had resulted in this near riot. Not even in Leeds! Not even in England! But some match, that had been lost by the England team in some other country, resulted in the entirety of Leeds City Centre being overtaken by a drunken riot. I'm talking shouty blokes with glazed eyes and beer cans in hand literally scaring the shit out of everybody who was going about their own business and not bothering anybody.

I know there must be very nice people who enjoy football. I just don't know any of them. I don't know anyone who is vaguely interested in football. It's just not a thing in my social circle. I have children who have children. My grandchildren have no interest in football. Probably because we take no interest and it's not yet in their world view. Kids who get dressed up as fans and go to matches are just being dressed up by their parents, and encouraged to be a supporter.

Children do what their parents encourage them to do.
Children at matches with hats and face paints are being indoctrinated that football is important. It's not. And they really need to learn that.

BBC report says actually later - 7pm local time rather than 6pm

When will know in concrete its in the evening than the small hours?

If that is the case. No excuse for sickies and keeping DC from school