I hate cats!!!!

[Crispandchocolate]

AIBU
cats, yesterday outside my front door I have put in two lovely new flower beds, within less then 12 hours, two cats shits!
we are a end semi, they seem to love our garden!
we have tried cat alarms,
its making me dislike neighbours that own the cats, selfish to own a cat when they know damn well they are going to shit on someone else’s property.
I might just go let my dog take a dump outside their house!!!!!!

I love cats - we have 4! We have our back garden cat fenced to keep them in so they can't get at the birds in the trees behind, and to stop them toileting in other gardens. We get cat poo in the unfenced garden from neighbours cats, I do find if I remember to scatter orange and lemon peel around they don't do it as often..

So don't get a cat if you can't provide it with a suitable catio or cat escape proofed garden. Nobody is forced to have a cat.

I was with you until you said you were exporting your dog ness problem elsewhere. Even if you pick it up there will be smears.

The thing is, cats are semi-wild animals. You can own them like property, but in law they are deemed creatures over which no one has any control. They live where it's comfiest and they do what they want and no one can really influence that. I do believe my cat has a bond with me. But I also know that if I did anything to seriously piss her off, she would move out.

If you object to cats pooing where they want, you're essentially saying that all cats should be indoor cats, since that's the only way to guarantee their owners are able to control where they shit.

But given that cats are semi-wild creatures, keeping them indoors or caged is very cruel.

Dogs are different because you can train them and they are also never outside without their owners, so it's much more possible to clear up their poo.

The only solution is to accept that you share the environment with other animals and however much you believe it to be the case, you don't take precedent over other wildlife.

I have had to come to terms with this myself since something started shitting in one of the plant pots by my front door. It's too small to be a cat or a fox, so my money's on squirrel or hedgehog. Infuriatingly, it's just out of sight of my ring doorbell too, which I believe the culprit knows.

No one is forced to have a dog either but we all have to put up with their barking, bounding up to you when you’re walking or even having to eat amongst them in cafes etc.

Actually I hold the bag under his arse and catch it!

Are you implying that some people are forced to have a dog though?
I would like to see those very long extendable leads banned, yes the dog may legally be on a lead but on the very narrow roads round here they are still able to be a nuisance when they're 10 feet or more from the person walking them.

If they're 'wild' or 'semi-wild' and not endangered or protected and causing damage to property, then surely logically we can trap and destroy them?

But they are not 'wild' or 'semi-wild' they are pets that are breed and/or sourced by an owner, and therefore the owner should take responsibility for them and any damage or nuisance caused.

You can't have it both ways.

Well said. When I adopted my cat it was made perfectly clear that he had to have unlimited access to the outdoors for his physical and psychological welfare. Cats need to exercise their natural instincts.

How about his pee?

Dog owners should be responsible pet owners too. I control my dog and pick up after him.

You are welcome to have cats on your own property and in control outside of your property, but if you can't see it you aren't in control of it.

Cafes are private establishments, go to dog free one instead, or set up a cat friendly cafe if you want, i won't be visiting it.

He pees in a drain

I can live with cats because they are cleaner, don't bark, and don't jump up and bite/lick/wash the faces of strangers. And (most) people don't feel the need to take them everywhere they go.

I don't like them pooing in the garden or getting cheeky and trying to come into our house. At least they don't bark at 3am (although they do sometimes have fights and screech at 3am! But then so do foxes and we can't do much about them).

Locally to me, the cats might be helping to keep the rats down as there's been a bit of a population explosion this year but I've not seen one in my garden (yet).

Mine's an indoor. Way too many dead cats on the main rd through the village. He's always been a happy, loving companion. If he ever wanted to go outside, I'd build a catio.

It’s not “natural” to give cats hysterectomies either, but it’s in their best interests. The US has higher average speed limits and more natural predators than the UK, and while I don’t know UK-based statistics, American indoor cats live significantly longer on average than American outdoor cats do.

My cat was a stray kitten in a litter that showed up outside my parents’ house in the country. Overnight, one of the other kittens disappeared and my cat (not my cat at the time) had injuries to her throat and neck consistent with a coyote bite. She actually doesn’t like going outside. Sometimes she’ll get out for a few seconds, but then she changes her mind and walks right back in. Also, I live in Minnesota, where it’s not uncommon to have winter temperatures below zero in Celsius and Fahrenheit.

You’ll have to excuse me for preferring a ten-year-old indoor cat to a “natural, free” bloodied and frozen kitten carcass. We in the former colonies and their westward expansions are just odd that way.

You forgot the part where they can also be property. If you trap and destroy a cat, you are destroying someone’s property in the same way as if you’d taken their bike and destroyed it, for example.

It’s not me having it both ways, it’s the law. The law recognises you can’t control a cat the same way you can control a dog. So there is no liability on cat owners to control them. As I said, the only way you could enforce that would be to mandate all cats staying indoors.