AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

Apologies if anyone has already said it, and I’m not doubting the change might not be all sunshine’s and rainbows, but have you considered you feel a lot less helpless than those that will be living in the asylum camp?

The other 12 werent too happy either

if people are living in the UK, they can divorce through the usual channels. If their marriages are legal under UK laws.
As for religious courts, of whatever religion…not really relevant under the laws of the country they want to be part of..

Agree

"the foreign undocumented men from lands which see women as one step below their goats."

This is both racist and xenophobic. I'd say that is what's dangerous here.

Incredible that you know the minds of all asylum seekers and honestly mind boggling that you actually seem to think all asylum seekers are people who would know anything about goats.

You are talking rubbish. Pakistan deported more than 5 million Afghans since 2023.

Your accent is showing

So is it just Muslims you want to deny the right to for a religious wedding and divorce? Or Christians, Jews, Hindus and Sikhs too?

I've heard it all now. We are making it harder for asylum seekers to integrate. We are more harm to them than they are us! Great that the polling figures didn't change.

Que?

@Lavender14 ·tragedies happen in this line of work all the time.

It was a brutal murder, not a "tragedy". You'd think if you were fleeing persecution, you'd have a modicum of gratitude to those feeding and housing you, but no.

Shameful

Actually it was a mix of domestic campaigns led by William Wilberforce et al, which made the buying and selling of slaves illegal across the British empire, and uprisings such as the Christmas Rebellion in Jamaica, led by Sam Sharpe, making the maintenance of plantations politically and financially unsustainable.

The Slavery Abolition Act granted freedom to around 800,000 enslaved people and it also included a massive financial compensation package given to the slave owners for the loss of their ‘property’. Those costs, along with those incurred by the active patrolling of the African coast to intercept slave ships are still being borne by today’s tax payers.

How is life for women in Kabul?

Do you actually think that the average Afghan man is a fan of the Taliban? WTF are people on about? Would you stay there if you had any other option?

No you would not.

It is the history of humanity that people migrate. Always have and always will. The current situation is nothing. Wait until climate change makes life in the marginal desert regions unsustainable. Or other areas become so prone too flooding that life becomes unsustainable. Migration will escalate everywhere. Even Southern Europeans will be migrating in their millions to Scandinavia probably once summers become unbearable - probably in about 20 years. People will do what they can, always have and always will.

Of course it’s our fault!

Yes, unlike their female victims who are left at home.

I think the villagers probably will, yes.

Again, Wiki says ‘massive Jamaican rebellions—most notably the Baptist War (or Christmas Rebellion) of 1831—were a primary catalyst that forced the British Parliament to abolish slavery itself in 1833”’

Something very off with those posts. Like they've been generated.

The system of asylum is male centric because that's how we've created it. And people are too busy arguing amongst themselves instead of calling for a proper, more functional overhaul of the system that would empower more women and children to seek asylum here. As it stands, women and children are utterly dependent on men successfully claiming asylum in order to create safe passage.

Or is it only white women you care about? UK women? What about all the other women suffering globally or do you not give a hoot about them?

I called it a tragedy because there should have been appropriate risk assessments, safeguarding procedures in place since this was a killing that happened to a woman at work. Onus should be on the workplace to ensure women or anyone for that matter working with ANY vulnerable individual is safe while doing so.

So no comment about the fake letters then? No concern that it's largely the men who get to escape, and not the women whose lives are far, far worse under the Taliban?

The woman had a name.

Honestly I think people are just going to vote for whoever is most likely to be hardline on it. The last few years have drained many of sympathy.