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To be cheesed off with Universal Credit entry fees?

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MaturingCheeseball · 28/06/2026 11:43

I know it’s been done before, but…

I thought I’d like to visit Chatsworth House with (teenage) dd. The cost is £33 each PLUS parking at £7.50. So £73.50.

Then I saw the universal credit/pension credit/pip etc price. THREE POUNDS. And free parking! So £6.00 for two adults (age 17+).

I do not have 12 times as much money as someone on these benefits. I doubt many people do. I’m not begrudging the disadvantaged a day out, but come on! The price differential is ludicrous.

When I saw the £73 price I just decided we couldn’t go, and so be it. But upon seeing the potential for a £6 entry, it made me feel mugged off.

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metellaestinatrio · 28/06/2026 16:45

Baszbasznasz · 28/06/2026 12:29

these threads are so weird. If you can afford it go. If you can’t don’t. Why aren’t you mad at all the people who’ve got tons of money and don’t need to check the price before going/can go anywhere they want at any time? Why isn’t that making you mad

Because in most cases they earned that money themselves - possibly inherited it etc. but in any event it doesn’t come from benefits i.e. other people’s taxes.

EnvyMakesTheBonesRot · 28/06/2026 16:45

Hiya @MaturingCheeseball. 👋

You are welcome to my discounted ticket (I qualify as I get Carer's Allowance, DH gets PIP).

All you have to do is become a full time carer to your still young, beloved husband and watch him deteriorate day by day in the knowledge that he will eventually end up bed-bound. You will never be able to do anything spontaneously with him ever again without thorough research and meticulous planning that will make your head spin. You will never be able to walk hand in hand down the street with your husband. Ever. Even sitting out in the sun in your own garden with him will involve complicated effort.

These threads are fucking disgusting and people should be ashamed of themselves.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 28/06/2026 16:45

Katypp · 28/06/2026 16:35

I think this yes, coupled with a complete lack of inclination to think outside their own lives. MN will be an interesting place in 30 years time, when the posters who have been so vocal about everything pensioners get realise it's not all a bed of roses. It always amazes me how posters don't seem to comprehend that they will be pensioners themselves one day and the changes they want to use to punish 'greedy boomers' will affect them one day too.
Expensive housing does not excuse the vitriol towards pensioners, who had their own issues in their earlier lives, including higher mortgage rates, negative equity and the financial crash.
The pp who mentioned means testing is correct. We need to get rid of UC as a blanket passport to benefits such as these low-cost entries. There will be many families claiming more in benefits due to their circumstances than working families get in wages, yet they are entitled to low-cost entry despite a higher income.
I've said on here before, out of curiosity a couple of months ago, I inputted my details to an online benefits calculator based on our circumstances when our two (autistic) children were younger. Based on neither parent working, our UC entitlement was over £5k a month. That's the equivalent of a salary of around £85k as year. (of course, I was told the calculator was wrong). Yet on an 'income' of £5k, I would have been entitled to these tickets. It's all wrong.

Yes because having two autistic kids is probably hard work and you would have deserved it.

Mumwithagreenhouse · 28/06/2026 16:46

IllBurnThatBridgeWhenIGetToIt · 28/06/2026 11:45

The jealousy of UC claimants (and council house tenants) on this site is getting out of hand.

Agreed, it’s sickening. The comments on disabled people as well.

Sugarplumfairy18 · 28/06/2026 16:47

DontBuyAnotherBook · 28/06/2026 16:32

@Sugarplumfairy18 One tip is to do it a few pages per day. We did this for our son.

Thank you. When you are just trying to get through the day it’s hard isn’t it

emuloc · 28/06/2026 16:47

Crosorbled · 28/06/2026 16:27

Having recently discovered that places take part in this outrageous scheme , I am now boycotting them . I absolutely resent subsidising others day trips .
When my child was younger with both my husband & I working full time , I had to forfeit these places and take him swimming or to the park . This is what my hard earned wages are going to pay , days out for families of most benefit claimants who do not want to work.

Whatever, do write and explain to these organisations about your plan of action. Hopefully they will reply to you explaining the fact that you are not subsidising anybody by paying full price, as you seem to believe for some reason.

pointythings · 28/06/2026 16:48

DontBuyAnotherBook · 28/06/2026 16:45

Yes because having two autistic kids is probably hard work and you would have deserved it.

And also for someone with two autistic DC to get that amount of money, those DC would have to have the highest level of care needs, i.e. 24/7 care. Not all autistic DC are the same.

MikeRafone · 28/06/2026 16:49

Snoopymayhem · 28/06/2026 16:44

No idea
perhaps they are making money in other areas
they have holiday let’s and all sorts

So the full price ticket goes down after the discount tickets start. They may have got funding through lottery or other grants etc - which they can do more easily as they have charity status due to give a discount to those on benefits. Which then may lower the full ticket price

Would you rather pay more for a full price ticket?

Just to add he holiday lets is a separate company and not part of the charity status of Chatesworth house. Any money coming from these business would not be anything to do with the actual House

scoopofmintchocchipicecream · 28/06/2026 16:50

Sugarplumfairy18 · 28/06/2026 16:43

He has only been unable to attend full time the last few months. He just about coped in primary with alot of reasonable adjustments. They were very supportive. Secondary school has been an awful experience so far, which is why we are now applying for an EHCP. We are hoping we can then get him into an alternative provision, but as i’m sure you know, it is a very long process and we are going to have to fight to get him the education he deserves and is entitled to.

I understand your point and agree to an extent, but you do not know us and it’s wrong to imply that we are just sat around not helping ourselves and blaming others. We both work. We actually have 3 children with SEN (our autistic son in question just having the highest needs). Life is not that simple. I do not blame anyone, but I do not believe that we should also be funding those who are in either the same position as us or better off. I am allowed to feel like this, both the benefit and education system are broken.

Alternative provision under section 19 of the Education Act 1996 does not require an EHCP so it doesn’t have to be request an EHCP and then hope to get AP. AP should have been put in place weeks ago. It should be provided once it becomes clear 15 days will be missed (don’t have to have already been missed or consecutive) and provision should start by the sixth day. Have you requested this? If so, and the LA has refused, delayed or ignored you, have you sent a pre-action letter?

I didn’t say you were say around not helping yourself. You were blaming others for you ‘missing out’.

dancehysterical22 · 28/06/2026 16:50

Amberlynnswashcloth · 28/06/2026 12:46

I'm eligible but chose to pay full price online for Zoo tickets as I couldn't face the humiliation of having to present my 'proof' at the desk in front of DCs and friends that we went with. My secret shame and sense of inadequacy cost me £40 that day.

Good for you…I think?

Katypp · 28/06/2026 16:51

pointythings · 28/06/2026 16:48

And also for someone with two autistic DC to get that amount of money, those DC would have to have the highest level of care needs, i.e. 24/7 care. Not all autistic DC are the same.

It is/was hard work.
However, an income on UC equivalent to an £85k salary is NOT low income and should not entitle me to cut-price tickets when working families on much less have to pay full whack.

Snoopymayhem · 28/06/2026 16:53

MikeRafone · 28/06/2026 16:49

So the full price ticket goes down after the discount tickets start. They may have got funding through lottery or other grants etc - which they can do more easily as they have charity status due to give a discount to those on benefits. Which then may lower the full ticket price

Would you rather pay more for a full price ticket?

Just to add he holiday lets is a separate company and not part of the charity status of Chatesworth house. Any money coming from these business would not be anything to do with the actual House

Edited

They got a National Lottery fund
that all has to be spent on the building.
They can apply for the grant because of their charitable status and as a heritage asset. Nothing to do with cheaper tickets
They cannot use the grant to reduce ticket prices
see post further back from the CC and Chatsworth

charliehungerford · 28/06/2026 16:54

FWC2026 · 28/06/2026 16:23

Oh do tell me what other benefit I could be claiming. I am unable to work now after having a stroke & pip is the only benefit I can claim. 🙄🙄. & no I'm not sitting in a huge pot of money or in a mansion- in fact to downsize it would have to be to a rabbit hutch on a paving slab on someone elses property.

I’m sure everyone’s circumstances are different and it very much depends on age. The person I know who had a stroke and who can’t work gets universal credit which includes help towards their rent, they also get a reduction in council tax. They are under state pension age though. Their partner works part time and brings in some income as well.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 28/06/2026 16:55

pointythings · 28/06/2026 16:48

And also for someone with two autistic DC to get that amount of money, those DC would have to have the highest level of care needs, i.e. 24/7 care. Not all autistic DC are the same.

My four year old gets high rate at the moment and is likely autistic.

MikeRafone · 28/06/2026 16:55

Snoopymayhem · 28/06/2026 16:53

They got a National Lottery fund
that all has to be spent on the building.
They can apply for the grant because of their charitable status and as a heritage asset. Nothing to do with cheaper tickets
They cannot use the grant to reduce ticket prices
see post further back from the CC and Chatsworth

Edited

Yes, the lottery grant or other funding they apply for is far easier form them to obtain due to them having charity status. To get charity status they have to jump through certain hoops - one being giving discounted tickets to those who may need them.

MummyWillow1 · 28/06/2026 16:56

Darragon · 28/06/2026 11:55

YANBU OP but on another thread we were told that UC claimants deserve free holibobs at the taxpayer’s expense so I doubt anyone will see the unfairness of these days out. Best get your hard hat on!

Edited

The reduced entrance fees aren’t paid for by taxpayers.

Sugarplumfairy18 · 28/06/2026 17:00

scoopofmintchocchipicecream · 28/06/2026 16:50

Alternative provision under section 19 of the Education Act 1996 does not require an EHCP so it doesn’t have to be request an EHCP and then hope to get AP. AP should have been put in place weeks ago. It should be provided once it becomes clear 15 days will be missed (don’t have to have already been missed or consecutive) and provision should start by the sixth day. Have you requested this? If so, and the LA has refused, delayed or ignored you, have you sent a pre-action letter?

I didn’t say you were say around not helping yourself. You were blaming others for you ‘missing out’.

No I am new to this, hence why I’m finding the whole process overwhelming.

i do not blame them. I have said this. But I begrudge the inflated prices which mean we cannot go. Whatever the circumstances/reasons. Just saying it’s my fault because I haven’t claimed is not the point. The truth is at the moment we cannot claim. So again, I am allowed to feel like this.

if my resentment makes me sound horrible then I’m sorry, but life isn’t black and white.

DrCoconut · 28/06/2026 17:01

puglover93 · 28/06/2026 15:44

I’d be interested to know what the statistic is if you included carers who can’t work due to caring responsibilities as well? If I was a single parent I physically couldn’t work due to caring for my disabled child. From what I’ve seen on the SEN groups I’m on, unfortunately a lot of single parents are in this exact position.

I've had people make remarks about me "only" working 21 hours a week. Mate, . get my ex to undo the mess that he caused and be back to how things used to be. Cure my DS's autism. Alternatively find me a childminder who can cope with his needs and has a place. Cure my autoimmune condition that was probably triggered by the stress of what happened. Then I will happily take up more hours. I have had a coach and horses driven through my career and my life and smug people who have nothing better to do than say I just need to make more effort annoy me. The same with anyone who is actually jealous or talks about fairness. I would gladly give up universal credit and cheap zoo tickets to have my old life back.The one with a two parent, two salary family who tag teamed childcare and were building a future together (or so I thought). The one where I had a realistic chance of attending industry events and getting a promotion at work. The one where it wasn't my turn, again, to cover sick days and piss my employer off. The one where we could afford mini breaks and days out from our earnings. As if anyone is on universal credit rather than a good salary and a loving partner by choice.

Dorisbonson · 28/06/2026 17:01

IllBurnThatBridgeWhenIGetToIt · 28/06/2026 11:45

The jealousy of UC claimants (and council house tenants) on this site is getting out of hand.

Because those in work have no money. Employers are cutting jobs because costs of employing people are getting too high and the UK is getting poorer.

We feel shafted and taken advantage of. We just exist to pay tax.

Snoopymayhem · 28/06/2026 17:01

MikeRafone · 28/06/2026 16:55

Yes, the lottery grant or other funding they apply for is far easier form them to obtain due to them having charity status. To get charity status they have to jump through certain hoops - one being giving discounted tickets to those who may need them.

This has already been evidenced further back
They do not have to reduce ticket prices
They can get charitable status in other ways ie community activities, non profit etc
They have been a charity since 1981 !

Swiftie1878 · 28/06/2026 17:02

MaturingCheeseball · 28/06/2026 16:12

The thing is, if someone said to me, “Oh dear, I wanted to visit Posho Castle but top-rate taxpayers must pay £500,” I’d be sympathetic, even though I was only obliged to pay £10. Some posters seem to be gloating at people having to pay full price…

There’s a lot of unhealthy rationale around earnings and benefits. It’s why we’re in the mess we’re in, as a country.

Mumwithagreenhouse · 28/06/2026 17:02

charliehungerford · 28/06/2026 12:30

Can you blame some people for being a little jealous of people living in council/HA homes? My mate pays less than £1k a month for a four bedroom HA home in what is the most expensive south west London outer borough. And she lives there as a single woman. Average rent in the area for a two bedroom flat is £2,600 a month!

That’s impossible unless she did have LOTS of kids who have grown up and since moved out. Councils only allocate based on how many of you there are. Single adults get one bedroom flats or studio flats. Also, regardless of whether her kids have grown up and moved out or she miraculously got it some other way, she will be subject to the bedroom tax for 3 of those bedrooms! So she will be paying a SUBSTANTIAL extra amount on top of the <£1,000pm.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 28/06/2026 17:03

Snoopymayhem · 28/06/2026 16:41

There are heritage open days
Not at Chatsworth though
This year it’s between 11-20 September

Edited

Well worth keeping an eye out for, I've been lucky to have managed to get tickets via this scheme.
You do have to be on the ball as tickets are limited.

I've the 'in your area' app and local places to visit are advertised on there.

dottiedodah · 28/06/2026 17:04

Chatsworth house is managed by Nat trust .However you cannot use your card and need to pay full price .However are there more properties locally where you could use the card .For £20.00 pm you can visit most of the properties that are covered ie Hardwick hall in Derbyshire .this will be cheaper for you

NeverDropYourMooncup · 28/06/2026 17:04

Crochetandtea · 28/06/2026 14:28

It’s not jealousy. It’s the unfairness of it all. Poor children getting a day out is one thing. I’m all for the welfare state being a safety net. I do not want children to be hungry.
However, two able bodied parents with a huge brood who can’t be arsed to work because( or only work min hours ) they KNOW they honestly will be no better off is another thing. And the entitlement? No you do not have a right to the same standard of living as workers. You do not have a right to a council house, you do not have the right to demand anything if you do not contribute anything.
I think votes should be allocated to tax payers only or at least those with a work history. Too many shirkers voting Labour. Labour is on its way out though so at least that’s something to applaud.

Feudalism? A brave move seeing as I doubt you'd be one of the gentry.

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