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To think we need to start talking about the lack of jobs?

596 replies

Newmeagain · 27/06/2026 21:57

This is prompted by quite a few threads I have read recently, from parents of young people looking for jobs or posters themselves struggling with finding a job.

I feel like a lot of responses are completely out of touch and people are not aware how hard it is right now. There are no “supermarket jobs” etc that you can just pick up.

I think this is having a particularly significant impact on school leavers and graduates looking for their first full time job, students wanting part time work and also anyone over 50 who suddenly finds themselves unemployed.

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Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:21

Upsetbetty · 29/06/2026 13:17

@Thechaseison71 i don’t believe you got no benefits tbh

I do.

DontEatTheMushies · 29/06/2026 13:34

Thechaseison71 · 29/06/2026 12:49

That was expensive. Were you in London?

If that's driving...when I learnt in 2004 I was £25 an hour in Aberdeen.

HappyBackHome · 29/06/2026 13:36

noworklifebalance · 27/06/2026 22:30

Why is that?
Is it because they are cheaper to employ? That white people are not applying for these roles? Or is it a question of work ethic? Combination of the three? Something else?

I think McDonalds (and KFC?) are run as franchises, so whoever holds the franchise for each restaurant chooses who they employ?

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:37

Thechaseison71 · 29/06/2026 12:49

That was expensive. Were you in London?

No, not London and it wasn’t expensive at the time either. I went with the cheapest possible option available.

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:41

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:21

I do.

On £20,000 a year you would’ve been entitled to a substantial amount of tax credit at that time so she’s either quibbling on the name of the benefits
Or she wasn’t entitled to it because her partner or husband was earning a shed load
Or she’s talking nonsense
Probably all of the above
Given that we’ve already unpicked the Property comment

however, we are going off topic. There will always be obstacles to younger people getting on the career ladder If such a thing still exists, to not acknowledge that is silly and I don’t know what purpose they think it serves.

Thechaseison71 · 29/06/2026 13:44

Upsetbetty · 29/06/2026 13:15

Ok so you made a profit on a property…that is very different to I saved on 20k whilst raising 3 dc and getting no UC!

People here saying I'm lying about having a 45k mortgage in 1997. And northern houses were double the price. I saved for driving lessons for the kids. Always had put the child benefit away. DS also had a child trust und he used to pay first years insurance after passing.

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:48

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:41

On £20,000 a year you would’ve been entitled to a substantial amount of tax credit at that time so she’s either quibbling on the name of the benefits
Or she wasn’t entitled to it because her partner or husband was earning a shed load
Or she’s talking nonsense
Probably all of the above
Given that we’ve already unpicked the Property comment

however, we are going off topic. There will always be obstacles to younger people getting on the career ladder If such a thing still exists, to not acknowledge that is silly and I don’t know what purpose they think it serves.

Tax credits weren’t introduced until 2003.

DontEatTheMushies · 29/06/2026 13:50

I have a nearly school leaver. The issues she is having is that locally the chipper only take son under 16's (cheaper wages). They fire folk once they are 16.
The Coop is over 18s only as they only have 2 staff in at all times.
The pub and hotel already have a waitlist for jobs as so many looking.
The local supermarkets are only for SET shifts over a number of days - you cannot just get weekend ones.
She has been looking for shop jobs, but so far all are hours more suited to Uni students (weekend + a weekday shift), which she cannot do because of school hours.

If she wasn't looking to Uni, I would be telling her to maybe consider an apprenticeship to guarantee her some sort of employment - though finding those for Law would be night on impossible.

She is very lucky inthat she has an 'internship' for Summer at a global company, so I am hoping she learns some skills, and get recommendations to take forward and help her have an edge.

BUT, on the flip side............I am always looking to see what jobs are going in my wheelhouse...and up here there are a lot of 24k a yr jobs that the entry requirements are just Nat 5's (GCSEs) and state suitable for school leaver. Though yes, they are hoping they get people with more experience - and given that my role has gone from being 61% above the min wage to 42% above, and all wages are being squeezed...you likely have people who are like Fk it...why do a harder job when I can do a job I can do with eyes closed for just a wee bit less.
I have actually been actively considering it - and that would take a job out of the market that a Young person could be doing.

Id also factor in that older people are having to still work as well. When I worked in the council there were a lot of over 60's in what were effectively entry level admin roles. We did have one younger person join us, and she was the youngest person there by 22 years. The oldest was 73.

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 29/06/2026 13:50

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:48

Tax credits weren’t introduced until 2003.

And even then not many people qualified. It has only really become a feeding frenzy in the past few years.

Thechaseison71 · 29/06/2026 13:50

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:41

On £20,000 a year you would’ve been entitled to a substantial amount of tax credit at that time so she’s either quibbling on the name of the benefits
Or she wasn’t entitled to it because her partner or husband was earning a shed load
Or she’s talking nonsense
Probably all of the above
Given that we’ve already unpicked the Property comment

however, we are going off topic. There will always be obstacles to younger people getting on the career ladder If such a thing still exists, to not acknowledge that is silly and I don’t know what purpose they think it serves.

I was single. But tax credit never mind UC was even existent then. 20k is my CURRENT income anyway .

And exactly HOW have u unpickedy the property comment

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:51

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 29/06/2026 13:50

And even then not many people qualified. It has only really become a feeding frenzy in the past few years.

Agree!

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:51

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:48

Tax credits weren’t introduced until 2003.

They were introduced under another name in 1999
Quibbling about the name it’s not an argument.

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:52

Thechaseison71 · 29/06/2026 13:50

I was single. But tax credit never mind UC was even existent then. 20k is my CURRENT income anyway .

And exactly HOW have u unpickedy the property comment

So now we get to the crux of the matter.
And we can all conclude that in fact you are talking nonsense when you made the claim that you saved for your children to have driving lessons whilst earning £20,000 a year
Glad we got there in the end
I’m off for a spot of lunch now

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:52

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:51

They were introduced under another name in 1999
Quibbling about the name it’s not an argument.

Do you have a link to that?

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:53

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:52

Do you have a link to that?

We have a tool called Google, which I believe is freely available to you
working families Credit or something like that

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:53

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:53

We have a tool called Google, which I believe is freely available to you
working families Credit or something like that

I just did. But you’re too rude to bother with tbh.

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:56

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:53

I just did. But you’re too rude to bother with tbh.

because I won’t wipe your bottom for you, I’m rude ?
The Working Families' Tax Credit (WFTC) was introduced in the UK on October 5, 1999, replacing the previous Family Credit system as the primary in-work benefit for low-income families with children. It was fully phased in by April 2000 and was later replaced by the broader Child Tax Credit and Working Tax Credit in April 2003

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 14:05

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 13:51

Agree!

Again, that’s just incorrect.
More people Qualified and the benefit system was more generous. I can give you a perfect example which may or may not relate to this other poster but if you were in receipt to the equivalent of universal credits. Pre-2015.
And you had a Mortgage
Benefits paid your mortgage for you and more importantly they paid out at 6% of the mortgage
If your mortgage rate was less than 6%, you were perfectly entitled to keep the difference
So not only did people get their houses in their entirety paid off for them
They could often make a little bit extra as well

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 14:06

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:56

because I won’t wipe your bottom for you, I’m rude ?
The Working Families' Tax Credit (WFTC) was introduced in the UK on October 5, 1999, replacing the previous Family Credit system as the primary in-work benefit for low-income families with children. It was fully phased in by April 2000 and was later replaced by the broader Child Tax Credit and Working Tax Credit in April 2003

Another rude reply. Plus a bit dodgy tbh.

Thechaseison71 · 29/06/2026 14:06

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 13:51

They were introduced under another name in 1999
Quibbling about the name it’s not an argument.

And what about in 1991vthen? Or 1997

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 14:09

Thechaseison71 · 29/06/2026 14:06

And what about in 1991vthen? Or 1997

I was living my best life at junior school then I couldn’t possibly comment
You seem to have worked the system out very nicely though to your Advantage and your children have benefited which nobody is knocking you for but don’t imply that the current generation has such a generous support available to them

Thechaseison71 · 29/06/2026 14:12

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 14:09

I was living my best life at junior school then I couldn’t possibly comment
You seem to have worked the system out very nicely though to your Advantage and your children have benefited which nobody is knocking you for but don’t imply that the current generation has such a generous support available to them

Where exactly did I say the current generation has generous support. Please quote that

Lougle · 29/06/2026 14:14

Covid also plays a part. It necessitated a reduction of service and then businesses realised that people will accept it. So previously, they may have looked at call data and thought "30% of people are waiting 10 minutes for their call to be answered, we need another member of staff". Now, they think "if it's important, they'll wait".

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 14:15

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 14:09

I was living my best life at junior school then I couldn’t possibly comment
You seem to have worked the system out very nicely though to your Advantage and your children have benefited which nobody is knocking you for but don’t imply that the current generation has such a generous support available to them

What's "junior school"? Primary?

RosieHosie · 29/06/2026 14:24

Differentforgirls · 29/06/2026 14:15

What's "junior school"? Primary?

Years 3-6