To think we need to start talking about the lack of jobs?

[Newmeagain]

This is prompted by quite a few threads I have read recently, from parents of young people looking for jobs or posters themselves struggling with finding a job.

I feel like a lot of responses are completely out of touch and people are not aware how hard it is right now. There are no “supermarket jobs” etc that you can just pick up.

I think this is having a particularly significant impact on school leavers and graduates looking for their first full time job, students wanting part time work and also anyone over 50 who suddenly finds themselves unemployed.

It's the same in a lot of areas, where we are a huge number of retail and food businesses seem to have changed from having ethnically diverse staff to having all Indian staff. There has been a big rise in net migration from India generally, but I suppose those jobs must be mostly international students as I don't think they could get a work visa to do them. I know at one point at least there was an issue with fake colleges being used for visas but I don't know if that's still going on or if it was cracked down on.

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My DD got a part time job today after months of applications. So relieved.

My DH has been out of work for nearly two years. He has a first class degree from Oxford. He’s applied for so many jobs. He doesn’t get a look-in at supermarket jobs.

I agree, I am unemployed for the first time in my working life (20 years or so) I have applied for well over 150 jobs in the last few months and have only managed to get 3 interviews.

Most people in the media are paid fuck all btw. Reporters are often on less than £30k in central London.

It’s crazy to me that we have both mass immigration and a looming AI employment crisis. Why are we importing lots of new workers when so many jobs are going to be phased out? There won’t be enough employment opportunities for British people, let alone migrants.

The early years sector is crying out for staff

Got a point here

I mean where we work, lots of things (admin) have been outsourced to India that people used to do here

So yes if it hadn't been outsourced there would be more jobs

Im 31, 10 years mostly in journalism which I have now left as an industry. I’m aware I have more experience than many students but the agency don’t ask for experience and there were lots of teens doing the car park work (£15-30p/h btw).

Where do you live?

I'm in West Yorkshire and every one of my friend's children (age range 16-22) are looking for work and struggling to find anything.

I agree @Newmeagain the traditional supermarket/McDonald's jobs just aren't there a d any applications aren't even acknowledged, let alone lead to an interview.

I think this depends whereabouts in the country you are. I’m NW and there is nothing. Supermarkets aren’t taking on. The big Argos here closed and they now have a small base in the Sainsbury’s. Loads of pubs have closed. Pizza Hut closed. Not many apprenticeship programmes that would actually lead to being properly qualified in a trade. Everywhere is running with fewer staff.

It makes me very worried for the future of teen DN. When I was her age, my friends and I would be going round town on a Saturday, looking in all the shops, some of us got jobs in those shops. Pretty much all gone now.

There are usually jobs in care but it’s not for everyone.

It is still happening. I worked for one of the main banks and can tell you that a lot of IT and admin roles are being outsourced to India. I know as I had to train a team in India to do my role before being made redundant. We weren’t the first team and they are continuing to do this in phases. My daughter works for a scientific research company and any roles they are hiring remotely are all in India as they can pay them less.

Exactly. Some people are still lucky-one teen family friend got himself a nice job because he went walking through the town, asked and got taken on. All credit to him, but so many of the others have done the same and got knocked back.
It has always been easier if you look/sound a certain way(I know full well that I got picked for some jobs because I seem happy/smiley and can speak in a way the employers seemed to like, and could run around every quickly), but now it is even harder, particularly for people with disabilities.

It's a huge problem, and only going to get worse. We need to plan for it.

It"s not just jobs going overseas, it's fewer small businesses, and automation.

I'm currently in a position where I need to leave a very toxic workplace. Ive been there for 10 years but for the last 9 months there has been a new owner and out of 26 staff, 24 have quit or been fired.

The two of us who remain are being forced to work shifts that are unsuitable, rarely get paid on time or correctly and want out.

I have applied for every single job I see. I have skills. I work hard. I have a pristine absence and disciplinary record. I cant even get an interview with a supermarket, mcdonalds, anywhere.

I walked in to a part time job at 16 which was flexible and worked around school then college. So did the majority of my friends. My DS is really struggling to find anything, most jobs are full time and want people with experience and/or 18+.
I had friends who worked in shops and did glass collection in pubs at 16, they could do it because there were plenty of staff around to verify ages in shops and for glass collectors to not be needed to jump on the bar. Everywhere seems to be running on bare minimum staffing levels these days so a 16yo is no use in them places anymore. Due to bare minimum of staff, no one wants to employ people who can't be completely flexible either.
There were so many apprenticeships too, just had to pop in to Connexions, which is no longer around, and there was a wall full of advertisements for apprenticeships.
I don't know what the answer is. No one wants to pay any more tax for the government to implement anything. What is being generated isn't enough to cover what's already in place. The only people winning are the big companies and those with huge inherited wealth.

Part of the problem is most companies want people who have experience

Car park stewarding implies that it’s somewhere near where concerts/events are held. We don’t all live in those areas. The nearest places for me to do this would be around 20 miles in any direction. Lots of young people don’t drive these days and I can’t see anyone wanting to spend the nights wages on a taxi to get there and back.

Thats another thing too, back in the day I knew loads of people that worked in pubs/restaurants in the town centre. Lots of these are now closed but there are still some in the town. Back then you’d get a staff taxi that your employer would pay for to get you home. I’d bet that and other perks are long gone now.

So many businesses have had to close or reduce staff count, since the rise in national insurance and minimum wage.

My dd graduated from university (good university, good degree) 2 years ago and in that time all she’s been able to find is part time barista work. She’s applied for 100s and 100s of things, everything from min wage jobs to graduate jobs. People just don’t realise how difficult it is. Out of her friendship group of graduates - all different subjects- only one has managed to find a graduate type role. The others are either unemployed, not for want of trying, or working part time min wage jobs.

Yes. Labour have been simply useless.

That must be soul destroying.

Youth mobility visas (and the recently implemented India equivalent) dont help .

Is it? I don't see many jobs advertised in my area. Although, I do live in a dead end deprived town with few prospects, loads of girls went into childcare straight after school as there wasn't much else on offer.