To think we need to start talking about the lack of jobs?

[Newmeagain]

This is prompted by quite a few threads I have read recently, from parents of young people looking for jobs or posters themselves struggling with finding a job.

I feel like a lot of responses are completely out of touch and people are not aware how hard it is right now. There are no “supermarket jobs” etc that you can just pick up.

I think this is having a particularly significant impact on school leavers and graduates looking for their first full time job, students wanting part time work and also anyone over 50 who suddenly finds themselves unemployed.

A fair number of developers are playing the system the other way moving to south korea so that they get a far better standard of life and are able to charge competitive rates to the uk. International migration for skilled individuals works both ways.

Tbf I have worked in Morrisons, was employed for only the chilled aisle
So milk, meat, yoghurts kind of aisles only
Any time someone asked me for something not related to my department I wouldn't have a scooby
We aren't given any training for other departments. Of course I would always try my best to find these items but more often that not, I just had to say I'm not sure sorry

The obvious solution to that is that you’re gonna need to manage them differently
Back in my day, I ran a Sales Floor of 30 people who was so competitive. They were clambering over themselves to make money for themselves and the business.
I didn’t need to tell them to stay until 7 o’clock at night. I didn’t need to encourage them to get in at 7 am in the morning because there was a reward system in place whereby they could go and buy themselves a house or a car whatever they fancied.
If this current generation is built differently and they’ve got the attention span of a gnat, then you need to use your managerial experience to understand what floats their boat, give them an early finish if they get through the workload, buy them an ice cream if they finish a display unit well. Little dopamine hits that makes Your life easier.
It makes them enjoy you coming into work for more than 20 hours a week
You might not like that you can no longer use the stick, but you can’t so it’s time to get the carrot out.
The days use of control and command management style are well and truly over

It's not so much that he didn't know where they were, but that didn't know what they were, and thought a "mince pie" contained meat. (Yes, I know they used to, but that's a long time ago!)

@frozendaisy I get what you’re saying but thinking about my company which does hybrid working we still have the same number of receptionists and cleaners. In London the tube runs the same amount of trains regardless of how many people are commuting. During the pandemic the inner city businesses were hit hardest with people commuting in less, but that trend seems to be reversing now and more companies are wanting people physically in at least part of the week.

Does being a supermarket picker mean less interaction with colleagues than if you’re working on the checkouts? I’m not sure.

A.I is replacing so many jobs right now. Even self manned tills are replacing jobs. A.I even replaces customer service.

Bring back human service face to face!

AI is even replacing scammers

Are you refusing to use them? Are you causing the Manager a queue and when they direct you to the self service do you say no?

In London the tube runs the same amount of trains regardless of how many people are commuting

TfL services have been reduced, buses more so than tubes - this particular plays into the twat working week

Why would anyone choose to be served by a grumpy checkout assistant over serving them selves with an efficient machine. If think there should be surcharge to pay use the assisted method! If that checkout person serves 5 people an hour that is a real additional cost of £2.5 per person.

Are they all grumpy or just the ones that have to deal with you ?

Sorry but my area is not like that. I'm actively trying to help my son find a job! He's 19 and has been unemployed for almost a year. I'm desperate for him to get something, anything!!! I monitor what he applies for (to ensure he's not being fussy), drive him to interviews, actively wait for responses. He's now looking to volunteer simply to get work experience somewhere but others are doing the same so applications for unpaid work are also ridiculous. I've even tried to get him a job strawberry picking.

Fair play! My own student is working two jobs, with current schedule is going to be working the next 10 days straight and will earn near 1k. They are delighted as it takes 100 a week they keep them at uni, so there is 10 weeks of uni covered. I honestly do not know any kids in my circle of friends who are over the age of 16 that does not have a job.

I find the differences between England and where I am in Ireland absolutely crazy at the moment. Every teenager I know has a summer job. My niece has just finished school at age 19 took a few weeks off applied for a few jobs and got a cleaning job, cleaning offices for 24 hours a week at practically €19 an hour.

They don't have to deal with me! I self serve.

How do you find this temp work? Which websites or agencies are best?

I think we need to take steps to create more jobs for young people. Self-serve tills in supermarkets and shops should be banned as should self-service petrol pumps. We could start requiring lifts to have operators again.

Because I discovered I had a passion for a new subject and decided to change my entire life to work in what will hopefully be my vocation. It’s a healthcare degree in a growing industry and it makes me feel valued and like I’m contributing to my community where journalism felt the opposite.

I just signed up for a local temp agency that works in my area. Just google the nearest ones around you and call them for a chat.

I read a quote last week about when they installed automatic doors they got rid of the doorman. But the doorman’s job was never about just opening the door.
And when you lose that you lose all of the information and the personal touch and the care about the building in the business and the inhabitants.
That’s what people need to bring back.

People are literally already dying because automated systems are not working.

It’s the same in many fast food places like McDonald here in North East Wales too, All seem to be over seas young people. We are a university city so I presume that many of these are students.

I have a 16 year old dd and all she wants to do is work until she starts college in September. She can’t find a job though and instead is volunteering in a local cafe 3 days a week to get some much needed work experience.

people are retiring much later out of necessity, job roles are fewer and it’s no wonder there’s a job shortage.

gone are the days where you could leave school and just walk into a job, I never struggled to find work back in the 90s as a young person

My local KFC is totally Indian workers always has been for years

McDonald’s seem to have a more British / Spanish workers

costa mainly British with the odd foreign staff member

Anyone can create jobs for young people. It's easy to set up businesses in the UK. Why not just do it? Fund it with a loan or remortgage your house etc.

If KFC and McDonald’s are franchisees, I do wonder whether these people are being paid properly. We lived abroad with a heavy foreign Student community mainly Chinese.
My daughter befriended one of them and discovered that they were not being paid minimum wage, not even half
Goodness knows how they pulled it off but I suppose whether there’s a will there’s a way

Perhaps you could go for seed funding and use some of the imaginary money being sloshed around in the system.
Again, pretending and playing at running a business, but don’t worry they’ll be no consequences for you whatsoever. You can just walk away. When it inevitably goes tits up.