13 men stand co-accused of helping a man rape his wife

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https://x.com/vicderbyshire/status/2070576295503708323?s=46

And there isn’t a single word from the “protect our women and children” lot. Not a word from Farage, Tice, no riots or anger.

How much more will it take to show that these people do not care about us at all?

Well seeings as many don't normally give a shiney shit what Farage has to say, it's interesting on this occasion his lack of opinion is paramount. I don't like the politicisation of rape and I certainly don't care for women being fucked over by the system that's meant to protect them. If only women were more angry about that instead of matching Farage with political point scoring.

But they hadn’t committed a crime so would conceivably have know they could report it without any repercussions on them.

They could also have reported it anonymously.

They probably got off on the idea vicariously.

I actually care quite a lot. He’s supposedly going to be the next prime minister.

The point is not about Farage and Yaxley opinions, it’s their propensity to exhort their followers to riot when a non-white person commits a crime.

Have you been living under a rock?

Do you realise that innocent people
of colour could die during the riots incited?

It’s crazy that some people don’t get it. It’s the fact that women and children are used as political tools until it doesn’t fit their narrative, and then we can easily be forgotten

Yep and somehow pointing this out makes you a political agitator too. Utter bullshit.

They don’t care though. It’s just political. They’re using women and girls’ abuse and exploitation as a political weapon. It’s obscene. What is Farage’s record of caring about women’s issues? It might take you a while to source it….

It’s like the men in the US that froth about abortion and the rights of the foetus while voting against every vote that supports subsidies for childcare or benefits for struggling families. Their cynicism knows no bounds.

But we are angry. Hence the thread!!

Maybe you should try concentrating on the person with power. What's Farage meant to do! Let's hope the incoming PM rethinks the ridiculous early release scheme within the prison service. I don't want to see victims of rape being robbed of justice. I dont want to see any rapist free to roam the streets.

Double irony with these two posts. 🤣

I give a shiny shit about what he says. Not because I agree with it because he’s extremely influential. Our economy has shrunk by around £80 billion since Brexit. Massively more than the annual £12 billion we contributed net to the EU and he still persuaded us that we’d be better off So yes because when he speaks people listen.

So when he presents the impression that it’s a racial issue by blaming men of colour for rape of VAWGs and ignoring it when white men are the perpetrators then it’s a problem. Because he doesn’t see VAWG as the problem like the rest of us do he sees people of colour as the problem.

Every single case of rape is a tragedy for the woman (or man) who is the victim. We should be concerned about every single one of them and be appalled at whoever is responsible. Using women who have already been horribly exploited and then exploiting them for political gain is disgraceful.

So we've had Henry Nowak and now Brexit as references to a gang rape. I then get shot down for accusing this thread of politicising rape. I'm not adding anymore because I'm enabling this shit.

That quote was about a murder - not the rape gangs.

What do you mean by race bait? I've noticed you said it more than once now. Who is OP race baiting and how? You also seem to be missing the point that if we did actually deal with our home grown rapists by changing culture and the judicial system then that would in turn protect women from violence from immigrants also...or is protecting women just not actually the point of you can't use it as an excuse to.block.immigration? Also where did I not bash rapists.or say I'm against doing so? I think rapists are scum and so are racists who pretend to care about rape of "their" women.

Huh? You're talking nonsense tbh - where did you get the idea people don't care what garage has to say? I listen and read the news of what everyone has to say and I very much care what he says given the influence he has. Farage is simply perpetuating the system so many of us are angry at. It's been centuries of men like him finding issue with sexual violence over those they see as their property, and it has nothing to do with them having an issue with sexual violence in itself.

It is. But if people pronounced their rage every time they felt it, life would be pretty bloody repetitive and grim.

Whataboutery gets you nowhere.

OP, you are so blinded by your sense of righteousness you can’t see that you are doing exactly what Farage does. Using appalling acts of violence to further a political agenda.

The issue with grooming gangs is that it was covered up and ignored and much of that was to do with community cohesion and people not wanting to appear racist. That is why some politicians - quite rightly - are commenting. Its to do with how the police and social services and other services and institutions acted and act in the future. That is political.

This awful case is just that - an awful case and does not require or need any politicians getting involved unless it comes to light that governmental or other societal institutions were complicit.

About what? These men have been arrested, are being charged, and have been named and shamed.
What do you want exactly?

The outrage about the grooming gangs is that for YEARS none of this happened to the men responsible because of their race.
Girls came forward and were dismissed/arrested for prostitution/raped again by police officers/sent back to their abusers. All in the name of "social cohesion"

Why are YOU NOT up in arms about THAT?

I'm no fan of Reform and think Farage is an utter dick who needs putting down before its too late, but it's not the same argument.

Try asking why Restore had to come forward to investigate the gangs because Labour didn't want to.

We know why.

As for the random rapes perpetrated by illegal immigrants. Same problem. Why are these men even here, when they should have been immediately deported? It's not racism to ask this question

The men in this court case are not in the country illegally, they are being charged for their crimes. What is there to say about it?
What has Starmer or Burnham said about it? Anything?

No, they probably don't care much, but neither do Labour or Tory or any of them.
It's not news to me.

Exactly this.

Why do you assume he does?
If he does then apparently so do the men in Labour and the Greens and Lib Dems, Tories etc. They haven't commented either AFAIK

they could easily have reported it anonamously.

Surely it's because justice is being done and being seen to be done.

It's not just about politicians though, it's the whole "protect our women and girls" lot who get up in arms and want to riot about grooming gangs but when they hear of a victim assaulted by white British men tell her to f* off or completely ignore it, they don't seem to get the rage when the perpetrators all look like them or even could be them. Stastically many of the men who claim to care about British girls are sexually violent or inappropriate themselves. No one is bothered by farage or anyone highlighting grooming gangs, they're bothered by them only bringing them up when they can blame the ethnicity as a factor. And it's ironic because this attitude is exactly what feeds the worry of appearing racist that you're talking about.