13 men stand co-accused of helping a man rape his wife

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https://x.com/vicderbyshire/status/2070576295503708323?s=46

And there isn’t a single word from the “protect our women and children” lot. Not a word from Farage, Tice, no riots or anger.

How much more will it take to show that these people do not care about us at all?

Please, fucking answer the question instead of all your deflection.

They haven’t been convicted yet. Any statement by Farage along the lines you suggest could prejudice the trial and would likely be contempt of court.

Exactly.

You've had replies which you're wilfully ignoring. I don't deflect from rape and I find anybody who does revolting, especially when they are women.

That’s unimportant to him in other cases.

So I will ask again, until a Farage supporter gives me a straight answer, why is this case not deserving of rage?

Just because those 100 men decided not to go ahead with the evil act that they'd planned - presumably mostly out of fears for the potential consequences for themselves (apparently borne out, as they have avoided exposure and charges), when it was so unequivocal that Gisele most definitely did not consent - that doesn't change the 'category' of what kind of men they are.

They're still part of the whole evil conspiracy to appalling crime, albeit not active participants who committed a provable, tangible crime in the end. Re-categorising them as 'most men' not only implicates all men in general - including the many who will be horrified by this - but it also minimises the personal agency and active choice of these 100 men to be involved with this crime in principle, albeit refraining to go ahead once they realised the consequences for themselves. If we just say 'men will be men', where do we even go from there?

The Henry Nowak case you’ve compared it to wasn’t sub judice.

I don’t think many people on here are Farage supporters. If anything, you’re making opponents to Farage look bad by posting this sort of thread- perhaps that’s the aim, I guess.

I’m still waiting for an actual answer.

Your question was “Why did the murder of Henry Novak deserve pure cold rage, but this doesn’t?” Multiple people have explained to you why Farage was able to comment on that case post-conviction but can’t comment on this one at present. Repeatedly demanding a different answer is just making you look daft.

I’m going to report this thread as I’m not convinced you’re in good faith. Enjoy your day.

But that’s bollocks. We’ve seen his responses to multiple crimes before they’ve been through the courts - largely to fan the flames and stoke violence. So I will ask, AGAIN. Why has he not commented on this?

And she only pivoted to Nowak because I pointed out that the quote wasn’t anything to do with rape or women.

You're being disingenuous. You know what OPs point is that farage and reformers politicise sexual violence by acting like it's contrary to British values and we are "importing" men who do this and are notably mute when cases are reported of British white men like themselves being as disgusting as they claim to find others. If you disagree and wanna stick up for farage do that and own it.

But the point still stands. He is only willing to stoke violence when certain people commit the crime.

And then the mayor of where GP lives said that what happened to her wasn't really that terrible because it hadn't involved any children.

No doubt in his head he was also one of the "good guys" 🙄.

If I voted Reform, I wouldn't be bothered about saying so - We live in a democracy still. It's not being disingenuous to acknowledge we can prevent more of a surge of rapists into this country, more so than we can our home grown rapists. This OP is nothing more than race bait, with no clear formulated reasoning. If you disagree and want to bash Farage rather than rapists per se, why don't you own it.

I can’t believe that at least two people on this thread saw the report of this horrible rape case and their first thought wasn’t for the victim, it was “bet Farage doesn’t comment on this one”. Have a fucking word with yourselves.

I don’t think it’s fair to report a thread just because you disagree with the OP!

The uber tolerant right

Violence against women and girls is inherently political. It's just interesting when part of politics only think it's a pressing issue if the perpetrators are foreign.

Thank you. You worded it better than I could!!

Rape is most certainly not politically inherent for women and they are the ones that matter. Although in this case, clearly not.

It is inherently political. It will take huge political changes to change the system in this country. We are politicised at every turn, yet it’s only when the perpetrators are white that it’s frowned upon to do so?

How? It's one of the biggest issues we face as women, it is an inherently political issue for me and that's why the majority of women can see when a politician doesn't actually care about the issue itself as is using it to bolster their hatred against another group rather than genuinely wishing to reduce rates of VAWG.

Well at least they're making it extra obvious that their real.ossie is with cases like this being highlighted.

You really don't read responses, do you. I don't know why you're lending so much power to men's reactions. It's really quite bizarre. You haven't started this thread to portray your utter horror at the rape. Instead, you're using the case for your own ends. I see you ignored the political manoeverings of releasing prisoners early; among whom might include rapists in future.