AIBU to think neighbours should not be naked in their garden?

[babypickles]

For context: Our house is on a new build estate and the houses are pretty close together. It’s fairly easy to see into neighbours gardens because the trees etc are not well established yet.

AIBU to say my neighbours shouldn’t be naked in their garden. They are often out in the garden totally naked taking photos of themselves. They have parties quite often and it’s not uncommon for them and friends to be out in the garden naked / using the hot tub etc.

Am I being a killjoy ? Seems excessive to me.

Must be like looking in a butcher's window.

So? Just explain to your son that some people don't like wearing clothes when it's warm. Don't make a big deal out of it.

No, that’s often the way to get yourself charged with wasting police time. No offence has been committed here.

Your mind must be so narrow it would fit through the eye of a needle.

No offence has been committed in your opinion.
The police might have other thoughts on the matter.

Lol! You beat me to it!

You realise simple nudity does not equal sex right? It’s just a human body, we’ve all got one!

Why do you equate expectations of civilised behaviour and standards of decency with being narrow minded?

To rub along with each other in our every day lives it requires exercising a certain degree of respect for other people. Parading about naked in full view of ones neighbours is demonstrating nothing but contempt for them.

It isn’t an offence, and no, the police won’t act on it.

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Section 66 does not cover simple nudity. It was a deliberate revision to the law in 2003 to protect the rights of naturists to go about their normal business. In order to reach the threshold for breaching the law some sexual context must be demonstrated and/or a deliberate attempt to cause alarm, harassment or distress to others.

Lol yes, everyone walking around naked isn't really that erotic, we're human, the dangly bits, sagging bits, dumpled bits. I get the sense of freedom and I dislike wearing clothes, especially work wear, but definitely need something on.

It isn’t an offence, and you may well find yourself cautioned for wasting police time.

British Naturism doesn’t have a single ‘CEO’ for want of a better description. It is run by both men and women.

That's what put us off from buying a new build. We had paid a deposit to secure the plot, and hadn't realised just how close together the gardens were until the houses were being built. After viewing once the gardens were fenced off, we realised we had around 8 gardens around us, all looking into each other's space! Horrible especially as I love my privacy.
So we forfeited the deposit and ended up buying an older house with a big back garden full of trees where all neighbours are blocked out.
And I don't sunbathe nude, but wouldn't mind if my neighbours did.

You definitely did the right thing if you value privacy.
Like you, I wouldn't be fazed by nudist neighbours, but in the back garden of a new build estate would be dreadfully odd and awkward!

Much depends on how easy or difficult it is to be seen. The yardsticks of they’re only bodies, you can look away, they’re on their own property etc, don’t really cut it. I’m reminded of the story/urban myth (it doesn’t matter which, it’s a good example) of the man standing naked at his own window where he could be seen by people waiting at a bus stop outside.

There comes a point where one’s predictable visibility by others makes deliberate nakedness potentially a criminal offence. Potentially, i stress, before everyone jumps on me. As I say, how foreseeable or deliberate is it that they could be seen?

It does seem that a fair few MNers have difficulty making the distinction. At no point has the OP said that there's any sexual activity going on in view of anybody else, but a few have jumped straight to them 'cavorting', and we've also helpfully been advised that having sex in view of children is illegal. That's where the fine upstanding decent MNers' minds apparently go as soon as you mention nudity - the beast with two backs. They're sitting there thinking of all those people in a garden, naked and cavorting and doing sex stuff...the dirty feckers.

😂 I have to say I am surprised by the responses. I always thought that the British were prudes.

But being in your own back garden on your own land naked is hardly actively showing them to people 🙄, unlike being naked in public places and jiggling it all about.

Children are capable of being discerning e.g. they can learn what situations are appropriate and what aren't. I have my own child therefore speak from experience.

The law was changed in 2003, so Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 incorporates the rights of naturists to go about their normal business without fear of criminalisation. So in the absence of sexual context and/or a deliberate attempt to cause alarm, harassment or distress then simple nudity is of itself not illegal.

It is common etiquette amongst naturists to always carry a towel with them to sit on when in public places.

Police call-handlers are furnished with the College of Policing Guidelines on nudity, copy below.
www.google.com/url?q=library.college.police.uk/docs/college-of-policing/C849IO118-public-nudity-aid-revised.pdf&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjAqbzL1qWVAxWDB9sEHUo8OM4QFnoECBAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3nxcpP5hBFts_HDMjR3zuB

Just because you have a child doesn't mean you can speak for all children. I would have absolutely hated to have to see random strangers naked when I was a child.

And as a parent I wouldn't have thought you would want to put your child in the position of having to 'discern' anything about the appropriacy of naked strangers in the first place. What will you do when the time comes that your child wants you to stop being naked in front of them? Will you call them a prude too?

Ah you’re one of those pearl clutchers who insist that naturists are always “parading”! 😂😂 We’re just ordinary people without clothes. It’s just a human body, we’ve all got one!