AIBU to question Snag Tights using very plus-size models?

[DallazMajor]

Snag Tights have women who are morbidly obese modelling their products.

AIBU to think that this isn’t ok?

I’ve already explained my reasons.

Are you missing the point on purpose.

Trying to make this about my personality is a feeble move. They seem to be hell bent on promoting their product by using obese models and branding their products as such. Like it’s somehow totally “out there” to be overweight. It’s just “try hard”. My point is and remains that using models with medical conditions isn’t empowering.

Promoting obesity? Listen, I'm a big woman (haven't seen the ads you're talking about, so can't make a comparison with them.) I don't support the whole "HAES" type movement. I don't think we should be promoting either extremes of size as being healthy and discouraging healthy changes as is seen in the body positive movements these days. But this isn't it. It's not promoting obesity, it's promoting clothes that are plus size. Using a slim woman for that would be ridiculous. Obese people exist and need to be clothed, acting like they don't and hiding them away from media isn't the answer lmao. If the ads say "this is peak health, it's fine to get this big" then you have something to actually be concerned about.

I’m size 16 with 34 inch inside leg. They make tights that fit me. Many don’t. I don’t not want to see a size 8 model or a size 28 model - neither are relevant to me. I want to range to grasp what they might look like. Tall, short, fat, thin etc. I’m tall with long legs even a 5ft size 16 model wouldn’t help. I waffle. Conclusion a range of models is a good thing!

The founder is morbidly obese and I understand that she was specifically trying to create tights that would fit her and other obese people, as well as other people although who struggle to find tights that fit.

I don't have a problem with that myself. It's the "choke me" stuff and labelling DV victims as kink-shaming bullies I take issue with.

Oh noes, fat women 😢.

Your point is not valid.

I have been very fat and very slim. I had no additional medical issues as a fatty - and even if I did, were you going to pay for me to have talking therapy, Mounjaro or any other treatment if it's only about it being a health issue?

Or is it just that you're uncomfortable with looking at fat bodies?

The problem lies with you and only you in some sort of internalised misogyny.

Why shouldn't their brand be try hard? So what if they aim it at fat women?

Agreed. It's the classic "fat women are lazy" trope - followed by the same idiots trying to body shame women for going to the gym or doing sport and haranguing businesses like Nike and Adidas for having a plus size clothing range.

Because fat women are simultaneously lazy and shouldn't be allowed to wear sports gear or do sports.

They aren’t a plus size shop.

The models in question are not size 18/20 they are size 28/30. I feel the same about companies using very skinny models too.

If it doesn't bother you seeing very large people in real life, why is it so upsetting for you to see them in photographs of tights?

Of course being obese isn't healthy. But being unhealthy doesn't mean people have to be invisible. People with health conditions are allowed to wear clothes and be photographed.

If you don't approve of a company using plus-size models, that's up to you; simply vote with your debit card and don't buy their products. But to say using larger models 'shouldn't be allowed' just because you have some weird hang-up about seeing pictures of fat people is utterly fucking ludicrous.

You are very presumptuous.

I am not a skinny woman. I’m size 16. I have been a size 12 and a size 22.

I am not uncomfortable looking at overweight people. I’m not judgemental in the slightest.

You are missing my point but I can’t be bothered arguing with you I’m too fucking hot.

The models in question are not size 18/20 they are size 28/30

Yes, and they're wearing the clothes the company sells, in those sizes. If a company sells clothes in size 28, obviously it makes sense to have them modelled by the people who are going to buy them.

Again: the fact that you don't like something doesn't mean it should be banned. This is merely your personal preference and frankly, I feel like there might be a little bit of internalised self-hatred going on here for you too. Just something to think about.

For the same reason that I don’t agree with “heroin chic”. It just sends the wrong messages.

Yeah I’m definitely looking at the pictures of the models on the site and thinking, gosh, morbid obesity looks amazing! I might try it 😂

Fat people existing does not equal “glorifying” obesity.

I am not uncomfortable looking at overweight people. I’m not judgemental in the slightest.

You are literally suggesting that overweight people should be excluded from modelling clothes because you think pictures of fat people are dangerous. You absolutely are uncomfortable seeing pictures of overweight people and you absolutely are being judgemental. It's the very definition of judgemental to decide that an entire group of human beings shouldn't be allowed to appear in marketing materials just because you don't like seeing them.

I have been a size 12 and a size 22

Ah, there it is. Like I said before: internalised self-loathing. You're clearly not confident about your own body and you're not comfortable seeing other overweight people being comfortable with theirs.

Clearly this is triggering your own body image issues, one way or another, but that's very much a you problem.

Why? Because they are fat and fat people shouldn't know what clothes might look on them? Are you offended

So what should the women who model tights look like

Many ranges have items specifically for wheel chair users now. Should they not use models with those 'medical conditions'

Pa ha, cheers. I won’t take psychological advise from someone who thinks using models with eating disorders/psychopathological medical conditions should be normalised in order to flog their clothes.

Don’t be ridiculous. That clearly not my point so let’s not go there.

It doesn't send any 'wrong' message. A picture of a fat person wearing tights isn't saying 'Hey ladies! This is what you should aspire to!' It's simply saying 'We make tights that will fit people of this size'. That's literally all.

They also use disabled models. Do you think anyone looks at a woman modelling tights in a wheelchair and thinks 'Ooh, she's modelling tights in a wheelchair so using a wheelchair is something I should aspire to?' No, they don't. And nobody thinks 'I should balloon to 20 stone so I look like a woman in a Snag advert' either.

You really don't seem to understand how any of this stuff works and you're also colossally in denial about your motives.

Why isn't it your point, though? The logic is exactly the same as yours. Exactly.

You are missing my point but I think you know that but are too pig headed to back down.

You genuinely don't sound very well.

It is just a nasty and judgemental attitude, imo, @DallazMajor.

Why shouldn’t larger people see what clothes look like on them? Thinner people don’t have to exercise their imagination, so why should I?

I'm not missing your point. At all. I understand exactly what your point is, and your point is utter bollocks.