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To think that “professional” standards shouldn’t apply during periods of extreme weather?

209 replies

toohotforallthis · 24/06/2026 15:38

I live in an area that has a red weather warning for extreme heat for the next two days.

Today the office was sweltering. It’s been 35° minimum all day, but in the office it’s been closer to 40°. We’ve all been unable to function.

We had a “friendly reminder” that the dress code still applies - dresses to mid calf, no shorts, shirts must cover to the mid arm.

AIBU to say fuck it and turn up in a T-shirt and shorts tomorrow? We have no client contact whatsoever, I will not see a single service user tomorrow. The only people I will see are my coworkers.

My line manager has said she’s fine with it, but if the “big bosses” walk in (from their air conditioned office!), we may get in trouble.

Surely the worst they’ll do is send me home, which is a win for me 😂

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HiZev · 25/06/2026 07:23

Normallyinthepool · 25/06/2026 07:22

Likewise. I am in charge of a team of lawyers and I have said they can all work from home. But any who do want to go into the office can absolutely wear whatever makes them feel comfortable (we do have Aircon in the office at least)

Snap! I think quite a few will come in for the air conditioning but it's up to them.

toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 07:28

It’s 30 degrees in here, at 7:30!!!! That’s ridiculous and if my knees offend anyone they can feel free to send me home

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Normallyinthepool · 25/06/2026 07:30

HiZev · 25/06/2026 07:23

Snap! I think quite a few will come in for the air conditioning but it's up to them.

Yeah, that's it, giving people the choice and treating them like adults!

If op's organisation is going to fall apart because someone wears shorts and a t shirt I would question the leadership

99bottlesofkombucha · 25/06/2026 07:33

toohotforallthis · 24/06/2026 15:51

You can roll your eyes but I’ve come out of the office dizzy, feeling sick and lightheaded. Just because others have it worse doesn’t mean someone can be uncomfortable and want to work comfortably

If the office makes you feel sick you should see a doctor and get a note to wfh until the heat decreases. Employers have to provide safe working environments.

Normallyinthepool · 25/06/2026 07:41

toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 07:28

It’s 30 degrees in here, at 7:30!!!! That’s ridiculous and if my knees offend anyone they can feel free to send me home

Your employers have a duty of care, please ask to go home /go and work from home if you feel unwell

JohnofWessex · 25/06/2026 07:47

I would get on to

  1. The Union
  2. HR
  3. Health & Safety team
toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 07:51

We’re raising a complaint with our line manager, hopefully it gets escalated

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TheJuryIsOut · 25/06/2026 07:52

I think the major problem here is the office itself, wearing shorts instead of a cotton dress will make absolutely no difference (the men should be allowed to wear smart shorts), the environment is not suitable for working in that sort of heat.

Forestgreenblue · 25/06/2026 07:58

As a female, I find it completely unfair for men that women can wear skirts of any length with a sleeveless top yet men are often forced to wear trousers and at minimum some sort of short sleeve top/short. I think men should be permitted to wear knee length shorts when the weather is hot.

DP has to deliver training courses and this week has been doing so with literal sweat patches down his legs - old building so not air conditioned and seriously hot. He’s felt not just uncomfortable with the heat but has also felt self conscious in his particularly sweaty appearance to his students

He did tackle his boss about it this week and she stated formal office attire only yet she herself arrived into work wearing loose linen trousers and a vest top with sandals. Just not fair

Sladuf1 · 25/06/2026 08:01

My own experience a few years ago occurred at an organisation that believed it was leading the way. I’d started in February. By late March I was noticing come early afternoon, it was unusually warm and I was yawning a lot (telltale sign I’m overheating), and comments were being made about this. “Are you ready for a nap” etc.

I was asked to have a chat in April about my yawning. Apparently it was off-putting (to my manager) and she’d been embarrassed because I’d been yawning in a meeting; it was unprofessional and people would think I was bored or being rude. I was asked if I was getting enough sleep, I wasn’t going out after work drinking, was I? Incouldn’t believe it. I fought my corner but ended up agreeing to an OH referral.

By this point a guy, who was also new, was also complaining about the temperature in the office. We found out from a longer serving colleague this particular office was the only one in the building where the air con didn’t work. They were also planning on changing the films on the windows, to keep out heat, because the existing ones had proven useless.

I brought all this up with the manager. Yeah, I get it, our office is hot but there’s not much I can do.” I suggested a desk fan. I was expecting a proper desk fan, as I’d had in other offices. No. I was given the tiniest USB powered fan you can imagine. Just as helpful as one of those old-school hand held ones like this .

I started taking in a digital thermometer that also measured relative humidity and leaving it on my desk. I’d check it throughout the day and was finding the temperature was getting up to 26C by 9:30/10am. Humidity levels were 78%+
The worst day in early May resulted in me going home, developing a really intense headache, feeling sick and having to go back out and buy rehydration powders. The following day it turned out another colleague had been experiencing the same symptoms and we had to drive yet another home, who reported a heat induced migraine.

So, yeah, I was the problem 😂

Occ Health doctor was very good. Explained what was going on and he said that’s heat stress or heat exhaustion. Told him about the usb fan and he laughed. The report came back - get a functional desk fan was one of the recommendations i.e. a polite way of saying one that actually does.

There were links to heat stress info and recommendations to let me have regular comfort breaks, including during meetings, when I experienced symptoms. Furthermore, that I should go and work in a cooler, air conditioned part of the building or from home where I could better control the temperature.

My manager got quite pissy about the report.. “I don’t think we can always accommodate the recommendarions.” I said to her politely we should at least explore them, to see if they made a difference. So I started working in meeting rooms or orher offices that weren’t in use and where the air con worked. I knew my manager resented this. Despite the fact I’d let her know where I was, she kept on saying, “I don’t know where you are,” and one day I was phoned, “are you still in the building?”

By this point I’d started looking for a new job. When I got one, our Head of Department asked to speak to me and I told her what had been going on. She seemed really annoyed when I mentioned it felt like I’d been accused of burning the candle at both ends and going out drinking on school nights.

I was emailed the following day by the HoD with my manager CC’d in. References were made to the OH advice and that I was to work wherever the recommendations could be best achieved!

GrandHighPoohbah · 25/06/2026 08:12

Normallyinthepool · 25/06/2026 07:20

Maybe her employer needs to adapt their thinking and make sure the building is a sensible temperature

Yes they absolutely do. That's what I also said in my first response. They should be getting AC in.

Sladuf1 · 25/06/2026 08:13

Normallyinthepool · 25/06/2026 07:20

Maybe her employer needs to adapt their thinking and make sure the building is a sensible temperature

Exactly and actually take steps required by health and safety legislation to fulfil their obligations, one of which is that the temperature in all indoor working places shall be reasonable. They are also required to provide a sufficient number of thermometers to ensure people can determine the temperature, which I’d forgotten about (reg 7(3) of the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992). Should have mentioned that to my idiot manager a few years ago instead of bringing my own one in.

Glad to read the OP and colleagues are raising a complaint.

toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 08:24

Sladuf1 · 25/06/2026 08:13

Exactly and actually take steps required by health and safety legislation to fulfil their obligations, one of which is that the temperature in all indoor working places shall be reasonable. They are also required to provide a sufficient number of thermometers to ensure people can determine the temperature, which I’d forgotten about (reg 7(3) of the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992). Should have mentioned that to my idiot manager a few years ago instead of bringing my own one in.

Glad to read the OP and colleagues are raising a complaint.

Edited

Wish we’d known about the thermometers! We’ve brought one in today

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Sladuf1 · 25/06/2026 08:35

toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 08:24

Wish we’d known about the thermometers! We’ve brought one in today

Good thinking. It’s one of those things you shouldn’t have to and only comes about because of some extreme like what you’re facing.

I got the idea in my case because they’d done it at a previous workplace where there’d been an extension to the building but it was too damn cold! That employer was taking it seriously and we had all these thermometers left around the place, to see how bad the issue was. They showed rooms were barely getting up to 17 Celsius by mid-afternoon with the heating on all day.
There was a row with the architect and another team over the design of the extension and the radiators installed, and the thermometers really helped convincing them there was a problem.

Justveryveryangry · 25/06/2026 09:04

toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 07:51

We’re raising a complaint with our line manager, hopefully it gets escalated

Good on you.

Do your management generally treat you like crap?

I mean, of all the things they could have done with this hot spell , rather than think how to promote about your wellbeing, or even to ensure you remained productive, they focussed on insisting you adhered to a ln unnecessary strict rule. Wankers.

Hoppinggreen · 25/06/2026 09:54

toohotforallthis · 24/06/2026 16:12

It has to be mid calf. So realistically, as a 5 foot 3 woman, that’s ankle length.

I am 5ft 3 and I am pretty sure my ankles are NOT at my calves

toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 09:56

I’m not the only one in shorts. We all said bigger your stupid standards 🤣

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Shinyandnew1 · 25/06/2026 10:02

ColdinHTK · 25/06/2026 06:43

What century do you work in that stipulates dresses to mid calf???

This-what a bizarre rule!

I think it’s ok to say stuff should be knee length/below the knee as I don’t particularly want to see other people’s thighs whilst I’m working. Same with stomachs or cleavages.

If men can wear shorts though (which is very modern for an office dress code), why do women have to wear something 18th century?

Good luck with your complaint!

noshade · 25/06/2026 10:09

YANBU to relax the dress code.

However, I think you're focusing on the wrong thing. Whatever you wear, 40c is far too hot for an office.

toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 10:12

Shinyandnew1 · 25/06/2026 10:02

This-what a bizarre rule!

I think it’s ok to say stuff should be knee length/below the knee as I don’t particularly want to see other people’s thighs whilst I’m working. Same with stomachs or cleavages.

If men can wear shorts though (which is very modern for an office dress code), why do women have to wear something 18th century?

Good luck with your complaint!

Genuinely curious, what’s wrong with thighs?

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Justveryveryangry · 25/06/2026 11:50

Notwithstanding that men are perfectly capable of being arseholes, I’d put money on this “professional attire” direction coming from a woman boss who weirdly has a thing about other women displaying all but the minimum of flesh (the comments on her about the inappropriateness of seeing any shoulders or any thigh showing this is a thing!)

I really don’t think it would even cross men’s mind, and even if it did, I can’t imagine they’d be wanting to prevent women from showing a bit of knee in the office!

sweetpickle2 · 25/06/2026 12:01

Shinyandnew1 · 25/06/2026 10:02

This-what a bizarre rule!

I think it’s ok to say stuff should be knee length/below the knee as I don’t particularly want to see other people’s thighs whilst I’m working. Same with stomachs or cleavages.

If men can wear shorts though (which is very modern for an office dress code), why do women have to wear something 18th century?

Good luck with your complaint!

Not... a thigh!!!! faints

Cooshawn · 25/06/2026 12:21

The world has actually gone mad. Surely adults should be trusted to use their own judgement on what would be most comfortable for them to wear?

As long as people aren't going into the office with their tits out or their arse half on show then what is there for others to be offended by??

I've had to work in sweltering heat wearing engineering overalls and full PPE and it was fucking miserable, but absolutely unavoidable. My experience doesn't mean that anyone who's uncomfortable should have to just suck it up when there's very reasonable ways to mitigate the discomfort a bit.

Cooshawn · 25/06/2026 12:21

The world has actually gone mad. Surely adults should be trusted to use their own judgement on what would be most comfortable for them to wear?

As long as people aren't going into the office with their tits out or their arse half on show then what is there for others to be offended by??

I've had to work in sweltering heat wearing engineering overalls and full PPE and it was fucking miserable, but absolutely unavoidable. My experience doesn't mean that anyone who's uncomfortable should have to just suck it up when there's very reasonable ways to mitigate the discomfort a bit.

toohotforallthis · 25/06/2026 12:24

Justveryveryangry · 25/06/2026 11:50

Notwithstanding that men are perfectly capable of being arseholes, I’d put money on this “professional attire” direction coming from a woman boss who weirdly has a thing about other women displaying all but the minimum of flesh (the comments on her about the inappropriateness of seeing any shoulders or any thigh showing this is a thing!)

I really don’t think it would even cross men’s mind, and even if it did, I can’t imagine they’d be wanting to prevent women from showing a bit of knee in the office!

Yes it’s a woman manager

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