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Football and domestic abuse

33 replies

menopausequeen · 23/06/2026 21:04

In light of the following

Olivia Rose CPS National Stalking Lead said:“While the World Cup is a cause for celebration for many, we know it can also be a time of increased risk for victims of domestic abuse. Prosecutors tell us they see a rise in domestic abuse incidents around major football tournaments, and we are deeply concerned by the patterns we see.”

Why do British football clubs not take a stance on this. For example ban anyone with a conviction for domestic abuse in the last 5 years from purchasing tickets. I realise people still watch it at home on TV but it is sending out a message to perpetrators.

But maybe it just wouldn’t work?
AIBU and this is a rubbish idea
or I’m not and it should be explored as part of a package of measures to target domestic abuse.

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Backedoffhackedoff · 24/06/2026 10:51

IcedCoffee26 · 24/06/2026 09:12

What do you mean "how do I know it's effective"? It is a policy that they have. Fans have to scan their ID before they go into the match and if they have a case against them for unpaid child support they are sent packing. Perhaps the odd one slips through the net but regardless, it sends a message - non payment of child support can and will have consequences you ACTUALLY care about.

Because lots of countries have laws and policies they don’t really implement or monitor, and grandstanding “mayors”.

There are many countries were this happens, particularly, as you say, lower income countries with strong histories of corruption.

LeedsLoiner · 24/06/2026 11:30

Unfortunately the sort of person who commits DV is not going to be swayed by the possible loss of access to a football match for two reasons.
In the era of e-tickets and unmanned electronic gates there is no one to check who is actually entering the ground and to attempt it in a Premier League stadium holding over 40,000 people would be impracticable.
In theory it is an offence to enter a game using someone else's ticket but in practice unless the person is checked inside the ground, for example if they cause trouble and come to the attention of the stewards/police, it can't be done.
It would not be an effective deterrent and it would not be enforced.
The only way to enforce it would be to make the criminal attend a police station at kick off time to keep them away from the ground or to put a tag on them but of course you would have to prove that they were intending to go to the football anyway.

Konstantine8364 · 24/06/2026 11:44

My boyfriend who is 43 recently went to a man united match on an under 16s season ticket, they are not checking much if that happens!!

I think a really emotive ad campaign played at half time in big matches plus zero training or playing opportunities for any players accused of domestic violence would be a good start. We need everyone to show it's unacceptable and we need men to step up and shun other men who abuse their wives and families.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 24/06/2026 15:41

Backedoffhackedoff · 24/06/2026 10:51

Because lots of countries have laws and policies they don’t really implement or monitor, and grandstanding “mayors”.

There are many countries were this happens, particularly, as you say, lower income countries with strong histories of corruption.

Yeah, this is part of it certainly.

Social Credit systems are really the preserve of despotic, Authoritarian, and Populist governments, and I don't think it's a good idea to start going down that route here in an attempt to tackle a problem which really needs addressed directly itself. I also have my doubts that in the heat of the moment any violent partner is going to pause and alter their behaviour because of the prospect of perhaps being locked out of Gillingham vs Accrington Stanley.

menopausequeen · 24/06/2026 15:55

IcedCoffee26 · 24/06/2026 00:15

Given that Argentina has a program since 2025 where non payment of child support = not allowed to go to football matches please can we accept that this is yet another one of those things where the UK says "impossible" "how would we implement such a thing" "logistics are too complicated" plus a load of other excuses meanwhile far poorer countries just get on with it.
https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/mundial/20260613/1004194705/argentina.html

If they wanted to ban domestic abusers from football stadiums, they could. If they wanted to put air conditioning in your schools and public buildings, they could. If they wanted to implement policies that would be actually helpful to promote gender equality (public nursery, paternity leave of the same amount of time of maternity leave with a mandatory 6 weeks period after the birth, insisting that all political parties as 50% female, insisting that all companies over 250 employees have 50% female board members), they could. If they wanted a decent health service, they could have one.

The UK has the economic capacity to build these structures into its society. But, the men in power....don't want to. So they say it's impossible

Interesting to wonder how so many other countries manage to implement these social measures, all the time. But the UK.....just CAN'T. 🙄

Edited

Good points

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menopausequeen · 24/06/2026 15:58

SkirlingGirl · 24/06/2026 08:57

How on earth would it work? Football bnning orders are a specific punishment handed out by magistrates. The only way to tie domestic violence convictions to watching football would be for every DV offender to receive a football banning order too. Bearing in mind the prevalence of DV, how would that be policed and enacted by clubs?

Many offenders don't go to football matches anyway. They may watch on TV, they may watch rugby, they may not watch any sport. It's alcohol consumption that has the most significant association with DV.

I think you're looking at this completely the wrong way round. Work needs to be done to prevent domestic violence, starting in childhood. That's what will improve women's lives, not banning offenders from watching sport.

Fair points.

But I do think the FA and individual clubs could do more. And as posters have said, starting g with their players. Just be showing disapproval even

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IcedCoffee26 · 24/06/2026 16:14

Backedoffhackedoff · 24/06/2026 10:51

Because lots of countries have laws and policies they don’t really implement or monitor, and grandstanding “mayors”.

There are many countries were this happens, particularly, as you say, lower income countries with strong histories of corruption.

I would point out here that a) it is being enforced and b) the UK also has a "strong history of corruption".

The UK is soft on domestic violence as compared to many EU countries, with a key point being the ability of the CPS to decide that there isn't enough evidence and halting proceedings before they have even begun.

The point I am making is that it's seems there is always an excuse in the UK for why they can't possibly put measures in place, meanwhile multiple other objectively poor countries can and do and effectively so.

Backedoffhackedoff · 24/06/2026 17:13

IcedCoffee26 · 24/06/2026 16:14

I would point out here that a) it is being enforced and b) the UK also has a "strong history of corruption".

The UK is soft on domestic violence as compared to many EU countries, with a key point being the ability of the CPS to decide that there isn't enough evidence and halting proceedings before they have even begun.

The point I am making is that it's seems there is always an excuse in the UK for why they can't possibly put measures in place, meanwhile multiple other objectively poor countries can and do and effectively so.

You think it’s being enforced on the basis of an online news article. My point is you don’t know. You’d have to have more direct knowledge to know that

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