AIBU to feel the media is pushing Starmer out?

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To feel the media is forcing Starmer out and to be annoyed by this.

They need constant drama and content and this is done at the expense of the country. Starmer is boring but things are improving despite major problems like Iran in the background.

If this were 20 years ago he’d have been safe. They are treating government like football clubs and want Burnham as they think he’s more showbiz. These foreign owner media outlets don’t care about the stability of this country, they just want headlines and drama on X to drum up more drama for headlines and opinion pieces where the media all interview each other.

The country is becoming ungovernable because them and I’m sick of it.

Wont indulge it, cos she is right.

Poverty is multi-faceted and complex with many intersecting factors.
The statement that people need to change jobs then or earn more is ignorant and blows my mind how quickly the world forgot how much the minimum wage workers were the ESSENTIAL workers during covid. If they all miraculously found better paying jobs so they were deemed worthy of having children, the country would grind to a halt.

I am on holiday. I’m with three Essex girls,
im in a bar filled with Brits, and they’ve just chanted kier starmer’s a wanker
i am the only one shaking her head.
i am seriously worried for the country

Why in god’s name are you in a bar on holiday filled with Brits @CupOfTeaTwoSugars

Sounds awful. You are on holiday. Maybe find somewhere else to enjoy your holiday evenings.

Oh… just seen the 3 women you are so despairing about - you are actually clearly close friends with them and on holiday with them. And unbeknownst to your friends you are tapping away on mumsnet about you despair! 😂

No surprise when we literally watched them do the exact same thing to Corbyn. Corbyn was voted in by a massive surge in Labour members, I joined because of him. But the powers that be and Labour Party MP’s hated him. They couldn’t even acknowledge that he received far more votes that Starmer ever did in a GE and actually matched Blair in popularity in a vote. They also actively sabotaged any effort he was making to fight abhorrent anti semitism in the party and denied that it had ever been an issue previously (and remains so).

He fought anti-semitism. Are you having a laugh? He WAS the face of anti-semitism.

What's your evidence that crossings by lorry went up?

The reports I have seen state that "other irregular migration" (ie everything apart from small boats) was down by 22% in the last financial year against the same period in the previous year. 4535 people in total. This is mainly people hiding in vehicles though it might also include some people entering via ferries/air.

BBC News - Tracking UK migration: Small boats, asylum hotels and visas - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70989jrdweo?app-referrer=deep-link

Please quote your sources.

And who told you that. The media? 🤔
any organisation has characters at the top who don’t agree on everything. But once the media get hold of it in politics they report as if leadership change is inevitable and resignation is the only way forward. When what we all need is stability.

Stability in a shit situation is just that; shit.
We need someone with a plan and the ability to execute the plan. Starmer has neither, so his demise was inevitable, literally from the winter fuel allowance u-turn.

I think it is the fact we have such low quality people in government, and have to pick from them. The fact they have to parachute in a popular mayor as an MP, as even the Labour party MPs know none of them are fit to lead, is very telling.

The media do love a drama, but the last 10 years they haven't had to look far. It all started with cowardly Cameron running away after the Brexit vote. He set the precedent that leaders serve themselves, their own egos, and not the country That it's OK to for a party to have a change of leader when things aren't going their way - it is not!

MPs are also mostly cowards, they only think of their own jobs at the next election, and so we now have this constant merry-go-round of self serving behaviour from the very people who are meant to be serving the country.

Starmer gets zero sympathy from me. That self pitying chin wobble at his own exit does not sit well alongside the callous, unemotional display of a man who visited the aftermath of Southport. Two Tier (tear) Keir indeed. Don't they call him 2 minute Kier in Southport? As that is how long his visit took in total? He took 20 seconds to wordlessly lay a wreath, before running away and doing what he does best. Defending the guilty and persecuting easy targets.

Cameron was weak, but Starmer is abhorrent. He disgusts me. His knowledge of the legal system has allowed him to abuse it to his own end, in a way no other PM could.

My only hope now is that Bridget Philipson, and her bloody stupid Child Welfare Bill, gets the boot alongside Reeves. Oh and they both lose their seats in the next general election.

No it's not the media - if anything they don't report half of what goes on.

This is not correct. The party membership favoured Truss and voted for her. It was the paid-up-card-holding members of the Conservative party who voted her in, because they preferred her to Sunak (who had just served as Chancellor) as they didn't want a continuity PM. Her support came from local Conservative clubs holding their own events, not from media reporting.
The markets however wanted Sunak and so scuppered her at the first opportunity to ensure he was crowned.
The media simply reported what happened.
The right-wing media pillared Crobyn and the left-wing media pillared the Tories, t'was ever thus.

Yes, can you imagine of it were the Tories with this debacle of scrambling around to bring in a leader. The fact they haven't got anyone suitable within speaks volumes, especially since they won an election without Burnham even being an MP at the time. I wasn't really too fussed on Starmer, even after his ridiculous u-turns. However, when he had the audacity to stand up and talk about the far right thugs, he blew it. That's when he lost the fight, on top of treating pensioners and farmers with disdain.

Starmer wasn't dramatic enough for the media - he was boring as hell but plodded on. I do think he should have pushed Streeting on more female healthcare changes, put more laws in to support women and children as a lot of the work has already been done just needs going through the motions (various laws about peadophiles still having paternal rights etc still not official). Other than that he was doing a boringly better job than any Tory has done in all the time they had, but that doesn't sell papers. Trump isn't either because he talks a lot of hot air and ppl are bored of him and his ever changing "truth" and because they have no real journo's left to find actual news (hello AI) they have to force changes in parliament, who are just sitting ducks. Welcome to the future folks.

The British media is run by rich powerful people, all of whom prefer a right wing, even hard right wing, approach.

Even the Guardian & the Mirror?

Not what I said, is it? 🙄

I don’t think lt was the boringness that saw him out.

“Yes, can you imagine of it were the Tories with this debacle of scrambling around to bring in a leader.”

Because they have absolutely no history of that in the last couple of decades 🙄 😂
Maybe Labour are struggling because no one wants the poisoned chalice of being PM and being villified from the outset (whichever side they’re on) and the media frenzy around “Burnham or nothing” has only fed this. Not defending Starmer per se but the British public don’t seem to know what they want either.

Well maybe the British public should be given the chance with a general election. I'm not comfortable with the idea of bringing in a PM within such a short time frame, where it's uncertain what he represents. It's amateur hour but the whole debacle has been exactly that.

It’s also bad in an administrative sense. The amount of time, energy and resource that is wasted by the constant churn of ministers and prime ministers means that if anything is achieved it is achieved slowly. The number of outstanding ministerial decisions that will now be either delayed or simply not made at all because a new minister wants to do something else would shock the general public. When people talk about inefficiency in the civil service I’m sometimes tempted to agree but it’s largely caused by crap like this!

As predicted Farage was given ample airtime on Sky news yesterday afternoon to say exactly this.

Edited to clarify: he said about the 'lack of mandate' justifying an early election. He obviously didn't openly call for riots- he's got plenty of ways to weasel around that see 'pure cold rage' the other week.

How on earth would rioting lead to a call for a general election?

You again. Do you do this all day?
Inciting rioting FOR a GE. How is that hard to understand?

Oh I ever so sorry that I'm posting on a thread you're on. Rioting will not lead to a GE but I see you've edited your post. These must be Farage's superpowers at work again. He's an MP who is entitled to an opinion on the current government's leadership. Take everything literally that he says and I can see why you get ahead of yourself.

Oh that's right, harmless lil Nige with his pint.
He's done by far the most damage to this country if anyone this century already (Brexit), incited rioting less than a fortnight ago and is already setting the stage for a more concerted effort here.

Your faux naivete is at odds with the fact you are on here trying to shut down criticism of him 24/7. Not really the behaviour of someone who genuinely thinks there's nothing to see here.

I would have no life if I wanted to shut down all criticism of the man on here. I can see you don't believe in democracy though. He's an elected MP, whom, along with every other party leader, was asked his position on the Labour leadership. He said nothing wrong in stating that Burnham does not have a mandate so it's highly questionable that he looks to be PM within a short timeframe. Why don't you try keeping your posts civil rather than venturing into personal territory. That tactic is starting to wear very thin. I will post on MN with the frequency that suits me.

Sigh. We elected a government, not a PM. I'd rather have hung onto him but the media have made it impossible. They WANTED to use the 'no mandate' line. That's what all this has been leading to.

I'll leave it there. You just watch it develop and remember that your hundreds of 'nothing to see here' posts will be here for your children and grandchildren.