AIBU to feel the media is pushing Starmer out?

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To feel the media is forcing Starmer out and to be annoyed by this.

They need constant drama and content and this is done at the expense of the country. Starmer is boring but things are improving despite major problems like Iran in the background.

If this were 20 years ago he’d have been safe. They are treating government like football clubs and want Burnham as they think he’s more showbiz. These foreign owner media outlets don’t care about the stability of this country, they just want headlines and drama on X to drum up more drama for headlines and opinion pieces where the media all interview each other.

The country is becoming ungovernable because them and I’m sick of it.

Dont be fooled by the reduced NHS waiting lists, funding pulled from lots of treatments so waiting lists cancelled. Inc for my condition.

It clearly has. And there’s been a concentrated campaign to do so.

They’ve got their way and pushed out a perfectly good PM.

Now they’ll start on Burnham (or whoever takes over if not him) and carry on until we’re all utterly fucked.

Also due to incentives given to NHS Trusts to clean up waiting lists - so people who have died waiting or gone private and were still on lists due to crap admin have been removed.

Not saying other governments don't do this too - just need to be clear that the figures are not wholly improved due to people getting treated.

Not saying other governments don't do this too - just need to be clear that the figures are not wholly improved due to people getting treated.
Typical political spin. isn't it? No counting of treatments, just waiting lists.
Apparently they did it with immigrants, too. The number of boat crossings was down this year ... but that was mainly due to the awful weather making crossings too tricky. Meanwhile, crossings by lorry went up but nobody mentions that.

Listening to the Labour MPs cheer at Burnham signing in they got their way. It’s MPs over the media on this.

Burnham called for a general election in 2022 when the Tories were changing leaders quicker than their pants. Do you think he’ll stick to that now?

One million percent. They've been after him since the day and hour he was elected. I'm a bit of a floating voter so not hard labour but I'm appalled at how he's been treated especially in comparison to the ne'er do wells that made up the last lot. They got away with murder.

Its not that, the media have always done this to every single Labour, more so since the Murdoch era.
It is the fact that for once the LP are not going to stand by and watch the slow car crash of Reform gaining power.
look at Starmer’s poll ratings. Worst ever, he can’t turn it round but hopefully Burnham can. It is bigger picture time, think of the worst case scenario, ie a fascist government and then work towards preventing that while its not too late. I feel for KS as I voted for him as a member but he made too many mistakes and Labour can’t make mistakes! That’s not a new thing!

And he knew that would be the case. He’s a career politician so it shouldn’t be a surprise to him. He’s had his couple of years in the spotlight (not to mention his Taylor Swift tickets) and I’m sure he won’t have to worry about his future

All political careers end in failure.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that nobody really wanted him in the first place and he was less popular than Corbyn and only won due to Reform splitting the right vote.

But he just never really had any vision. All wishy washy and totally out of touch with the majority of the country. His utter failure to act on immigration and benefits / overspending was his ultimate downfall. He basically u-turned and put two fingers up to working people while prioritising illegal immigrants.

And now Burnham and Milliband are gearing up to further shaft the country. Labour will again be out in the cold for two decades by the time they’re done.

At this point we would be better off with Amazon’s Alexa running the country.

Very much so. A few hours since KS's speech and 5 Live presenter is acting incredulous that 'we' don't know Andy Burnham's 'plan'. I don't think I can listen to the news any more. He was talking about AB needing 'momentum' and 'announcements'. Nope, it's the media that need 'momentum' and 'announcements' to keep up the cycle.

He might. All depends on what he thinks his popularity is going to look like as a function of time, whether he wants to survive by following through on the old manifesto or whether he wants to change to a new one. I think without a new manifesto it would be a hard sell to the party.

It will be pretty funny though if he decides to go for it given some of the comments on here.

Odds seem to indicate 7-1 for an election in 2026 atm so the bookies at least seem to think it is unlikely.

So? They're still not allowed to print blatant untruths.

Taxing the wealthy has been done before. Take a look at what happened.

Very few of the wealthy stuck around long enough to pay any taxes so the country needed even more money to plug the gap in lost revenue and it was the middle and lower earners who ended up paying more tax not less.

It all seems quite cringy

Will there be crowds lining his route from Euston to Westminster Shouting “All Hail
Andy, he’s coming to save us”

“Their right” @CoolGreenBee
what do you mean? They see this as their right?

I haven’t and would never vote Labour, I didnt like Starmer, he’s got his just desserts with his sanctimonious dribble to Boris in the past.

however I’d rather Starmer than the poop heap of other Labour MPs lining up, possibly except Yvette Cooper and David Milliband.

But Johnson killed prople and partied while we distanced - that’s why his resignation was called for, Johnson et al should be in prison

I wonder how many Brexit voters actually understand this - none they lack the ability to understand politics…

How can anyone back Johnson, and still call him Boris like he's your mate? He has blood on his hands and he laughs that the likes of you defend him! Please educate yourself

Agreed. This morning I was imagining them in some kind of delighted frenzy. It's ridiculous 😭

😂😂

I listened to loads of election coverage on BBC newscast recently - which I used to enjoy. However this time it felt far less policy coverage and more gossipy speculation seemingly through 'senior officials' on WhatsApp. To me Laura K just enjoys the 'drama' these days.

Intersex is an umbrella term for a number of DSD's and still being used in the medical world, and it links to your comment. He didnt say 100% because there are cases where both applies. There are as many intersex folks as there are red heads.

And trans women aren't a risk to women's safety. That's men, who dont need to "pretend to be a women" to attack women if that is what they are so inclined to do.