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AIBU to feel the media is pushing Starmer out?

418 replies

Ihatethistimeline · 22/06/2026 08:08

To feel the media is forcing Starmer out and to be annoyed by this.

They need constant drama and content and this is done at the expense of the country. Starmer is boring but things are improving despite major problems like Iran in the background.

If this were 20 years ago he’d have been safe. They are treating government like football clubs and want Burnham as they think he’s more showbiz. These foreign owner media outlets don’t care about the stability of this country, they just want headlines and drama on X to drum up more drama for headlines and opinion pieces where the media all interview each other.

The country is becoming ungovernable because them and I’m sick of it.

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Crikeyalmighty · 22/06/2026 11:59

You don’t say !! I am disgusted -still it seems people want charisma - never mind the policies or reality

EasternStandard · 22/06/2026 12:00

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:53

The lifting of the benefit cap was bizzare. This was a move deeply unpopular with the voting public as well as ruinously expensive. Why do it?

Labour MPs wanted it

arminius · 22/06/2026 12:00

Starmer lacked a vision of hope for the country, unfortunately. He gave that speech in the rose garden (I think) near the very beginning stating how dire the whole situation was and that really was the end for my belief that he had the skills to lead. I don’t doubt he’s a pretty decent man but his political instinct (see Mandelson, the WFA as one of the first acts as PM), his lack of a hopeful message, and generally his unease with himself means he hasn’t been up to a lot of the job. At least Burnham can communicate and will cut through. Whether that’s enough, I don’t know

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:01

The only way to reduce inequality is to tax the very wealthy and tax wealth, not just income. I like Gary in the clip below. Grew up in poverty and is now a multi millionaire and campaigns to reduce inequality. He’s studied economics and knows his stuff.

m.youtube.com/shorts/V2M0_T-l2LE?ra=m

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:03

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:41

Affording income protection comes before affording kids surely???? Why would you have kids if you’re going to be so reckless they could face destitution?

People who cannot work should be looked after but buy their families first, and only by the state when there are no other options. We shouldn’t have slightly depressed 20 somethings gaming in their bedroom at their mums all day in receipt of benefits.

So people in a couple, both working long weeks, full time hours on minimum wage shouldn’t have kids because they can’t afford (or wouldn’t be given) income protection? That’s your view?

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:03

EasternStandard · 22/06/2026 12:00

Labour MPs wanted it

They’re so out of touch!

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:04

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:03

So people in a couple, both working long weeks, full time hours on minimum wage shouldn’t have kids because they can’t afford (or wouldn’t be given) income protection? That’s your view?

Yes of course. What do they expect to do if they lost their job or were unable to work through disability?

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:04

CoolGreenBee · 22/06/2026 11:45

Many people continue to have children they can't afford to support on their own because state benefits mean they can afford them.

And as they're 'entitled' to those benefits, they factor in those benefits as it's become part of their income. Their right. They don't think about how they'd manage without it, they just think well we'll get these benefits and so that's okay.

There's several UK 'family vloggers' on Youtube with 6-13 kids that i'm aware of that are planning more kids even if they already have one or more disabled kid and think that's just fine because they're already in social housing and claiming thousands a year but think it's okay because the man works a manual job. They don't think well he definitely isn't earning enough to support a family of 8-15, they think it's justified because the housing and the benefits are what they're entitled to.

They are an extreme minority.

Homelanders · 22/06/2026 12:04

Do you want mass capital flight? I don't. I'd rather try and lift the poor up than try and bring down those who worked hard and succeeded.

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 22/06/2026 12:05

senua · 22/06/2026 09:40

That article you linked to says:
In 2023, Sir Keir told The Sunday Times that for "99.9%" of women "of course they haven't got a penis".
So Keir did think that some women have a penis. Then changed his mind when he saw which way the wind was blowing.

No one cares about your anti-trans rhetoric on this thread. bore off really.
Intersex people exist. They can choose which gender they feel is right for them based on the own individual biological and how they feel about it.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:05

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:01

The only way to reduce inequality is to tax the very wealthy and tax wealth, not just income. I like Gary in the clip below. Grew up in poverty and is now a multi millionaire and campaigns to reduce inequality. He’s studied economics and knows his stuff.

m.youtube.com/shorts/V2M0_T-l2LE?ra=m

Gary is clueless. Laughably clueless. And he knows it.

blackpooolrock · 22/06/2026 12:06

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 10:46

Labour can’t ’support the working classes’. I don’t know if you’ve realised but the country is skint. The working classes have to start supporting themselves. We need to hugely cut welfare to be able to invest for growth, grow the economy and hopefully bring down taxes on working people in the future. What 100% will not work is giving more money away to people who haven’t earned that money. Andy Burnham will do just that and so Nigel Farage will walk the next election. Cheers Andy you Twat.

I'm not a labour supporter by any stretch of the imagination however there are a few things that i think you mention that are wrong.

the country isn't skint. We are giving money away to every man and his dog like its confetti. Just stop giving it away.

Invest in opportunities - stop taxing every thing and everyone.

I dont think Farage will win because they give away money - he will win because people of the UK feel like they are being treated like 2nd class citizens in their own country.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:07

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:03

So people in a couple, both working long weeks, full time hours on minimum wage shouldn’t have kids because they can’t afford (or wouldn’t be given) income protection? That’s your view?

It's not the most sensible idea, dear.

Perhaps, improve your finances first?

24evergreen · 22/06/2026 12:07

100% agree. He was ‘boring’ but the most qualified politician we’ve had in years.

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:07

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 11:42

Who said only the wealthy should have children?

Common sense would say, if you can only afford one child, then one is enough - not five or six. If you can't afford to have kids, perhaps you shouldn't have any.

What is so hard to understand, dear?

if you can’t afford to have kids you shouldn’t have them = only the wealthy/privileged should have them.

So when I had my DC I was married. I didn’t need child support. Now I’m a single parent, I rely on it. I’m not feckless at all.

Becs51 · 22/06/2026 12:07

CoolGreenBee · 22/06/2026 11:35

They get taxed on declared taxable income, not wealth. And there are numerous ways around it as you will know.

Jeff Bezos claimed 4k in child tax credit in the US in 2011 when he was worth !8 billion because his investment losses that year meant he had no taxable income.

The same happens in the UK where there are numerous loopholes so extremely wealthy people pay little or no tax because they're technically not earning taxable income in that year.

So their wealth being what then? Stocks and share? Taxed on the income to buy them and taxed on the interest made, taxed when you sell them. Property? Pay stamp duty when you buy and additional stamp duty on 2nd or more properties. Additional council tax on second homes, if properties are rented then tax on income. Taxed capital gains when you sell. Assets like cars pay tax on purchase like everyone else.
radical thought, reduce taxes and encourage the wealthy to return or stay. They then put more into the economy by employing people in their homes and business who then pay tax, they spend their money in the UK rather than overseas and it boosts the economy creating more jobs which then leads to more tax income.
the vast majority of today’s wealth is created through individuals working flipping hard to build businesses and do well for themselves and their family. Long gone are the days of inherited wealth.

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 22/06/2026 12:08

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 09:43

He is embarrassing to watch. His speech was stiff and awkward. He just didn't have it. His image is that of a wet, weak man with a whiny voice.

He was never a confident, convincing leader.

I'd take an intelligent leader over a charismatic one.
Too many people thought Boris was charismatic when he was just an incompetent spoiled little rich boy. 🤮

EasternStandard · 22/06/2026 12:10

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:03

They’re so out of touch!

Yes that probably won’t change

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:11

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:07

if you can’t afford to have kids you shouldn’t have them = only the wealthy/privileged should have them.

So when I had my DC I was married. I didn’t need child support. Now I’m a single parent, I rely on it. I’m not feckless at all.

Is your ex-husband not providing for you?

Londonrach1 · 22/06/2026 12:11

Sadly I agree with you op.

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:12

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:04

Yes of course. What do they expect to do if they lost their job or were unable to work through disability?

Wow.

senua · 22/06/2026 12:12

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 22/06/2026 12:05

No one cares about your anti-trans rhetoric on this thread. bore off really.
Intersex people exist. They can choose which gender they feel is right for them based on the own individual biological and how they feel about it.

I'm not anti-trans, I'm pro women's rights.
I don't care what gender you are but I do care what sex you are, it could have a massive impact on my safety.
And what has intersex (outdated term) got to do with anything?Confused

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:13

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:11

Is your ex-husband not providing for you?

I get CMS. But having gone from no mortgage and half bills to rent and full bills, CMS and Child Benefit are essential.

WhisperingHi · 22/06/2026 12:13

YANBU. We’re walking into a humanitarian disaster. This culture of bullying leaders out needs to end.

How is it just, that Kier got the hate he did, get Trump seems untouchable after the atrocities he’s done? The sexism, racism, the antagonism and pure stupidity - yet he seems like Teflon.

If we allow this to continue as a country and world, our children will experience the crimes and fear this brings. I want my kids to grow up in a country that supports its vulnerable, grows and invests as an economy in ethical practices and, above all, feels optimistic and kind. There’s too much hatred around now.

Homelanders · 22/06/2026 12:14

Becs51 · 22/06/2026 12:07

So their wealth being what then? Stocks and share? Taxed on the income to buy them and taxed on the interest made, taxed when you sell them. Property? Pay stamp duty when you buy and additional stamp duty on 2nd or more properties. Additional council tax on second homes, if properties are rented then tax on income. Taxed capital gains when you sell. Assets like cars pay tax on purchase like everyone else.
radical thought, reduce taxes and encourage the wealthy to return or stay. They then put more into the economy by employing people in their homes and business who then pay tax, they spend their money in the UK rather than overseas and it boosts the economy creating more jobs which then leads to more tax income.
the vast majority of today’s wealth is created through individuals working flipping hard to build businesses and do well for themselves and their family. Long gone are the days of inherited wealth.

Again, you're not supposed to enjoy your fruits of your hard work in their country.

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