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AIBU to feel the media is pushing Starmer out?

418 replies

Ihatethistimeline · 22/06/2026 08:08

To feel the media is forcing Starmer out and to be annoyed by this.

They need constant drama and content and this is done at the expense of the country. Starmer is boring but things are improving despite major problems like Iran in the background.

If this were 20 years ago he’d have been safe. They are treating government like football clubs and want Burnham as they think he’s more showbiz. These foreign owner media outlets don’t care about the stability of this country, they just want headlines and drama on X to drum up more drama for headlines and opinion pieces where the media all interview each other.

The country is becoming ungovernable because them and I’m sick of it.

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IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 11:40

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:24

‘Billionaires avoiding tax’? Which billionaires? Chartered Tax Advidor here and you are spouting 100% cliched bollocks. Would you please stop? It’s tiresome and childish, and stops people listening to actual solutions made by people living in the real world, not made up fantasy magic money tree and unicorns land.

Christ! There’s one of these idiots on each and every thread like this. Just have a wee think, if there were any undertaxed billionaires (there aren’t) who would be willing to hang around the UK to be taxed more (they’re not) why didn’t Keir and RR do it???

Did you just call me an idiot?

That is very rude.

SomersetBrie · 22/06/2026 11:41

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:28

and while I’m at it, if kids are undernourished it’s probably down to feckless parents. Parents are given enough to live off if they spend wisely. They don’t, and so they starve their kids. Giving the feckless more money doesn’t help anyone.

It's awful to see people happy for kids to suffer because their parents make bad choices. But you are far from unique in that.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:41

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 11:37

And for someone born into circumstances that mean they can’t work? Or for those who can’t afford or can’t get income protection?

Affording income protection comes before affording kids surely???? Why would you have kids if you’re going to be so reckless they could face destitution?

People who cannot work should be looked after but buy their families first, and only by the state when there are no other options. We shouldn’t have slightly depressed 20 somethings gaming in their bedroom at their mums all day in receipt of benefits.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:42

SomersetBrie · 22/06/2026 11:41

It's awful to see people happy for kids to suffer because their parents make bad choices. But you are far from unique in that.

whet do you suggest the solution is?

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 11:42

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 11:35

Seriously? Rather than fix the grotesque inequality - we just say that only the well off can have have a family? Really?

Who said only the wealthy should have children?

Common sense would say, if you can only afford one child, then one is enough - not five or six. If you can't afford to have kids, perhaps you shouldn't have any.

What is so hard to understand, dear?

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:43

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 11:40

Did you just call me an idiot?

That is very rude.

Well you seem to have implied there is an untapped source of vast tax wealth that Keir decided not to tap. Seems a little naive to me…

GoodkneeBadKnee · 22/06/2026 11:43

342524u · 22/06/2026 09:46

Any adult who thinks men are women should not be leading the country. And is not a decent man.

You too

CoolGreenBee · 22/06/2026 11:45

Whatafustercluck · 22/06/2026 11:32

The assumption underlying this is that life circumstances don't change. Poor health, disability, redundancy, divorce, death, all change the playing field. Children can be born into stability only for things to change. I never imagined my second child would be disabled and that it would make it so difficult to work or plan ahead. As it happens, I do work (as does dh) and we get by. But I don't pretend that others are able to do the same.

Many people continue to have children they can't afford to support on their own because state benefits mean they can afford them.

And as they're 'entitled' to those benefits, they factor in those benefits as it's become part of their income. Their right. They don't think about how they'd manage without it, they just think well we'll get these benefits and so that's okay.

There's several UK 'family vloggers' on Youtube with 6-13 kids that i'm aware of that are planning more kids even if they already have one or more disabled kid and think that's just fine because they're already in social housing and claiming thousands a year but think it's okay because the man works a manual job. They don't think well he definitely isn't earning enough to support a family of 8-15, they think it's justified because the housing and the benefits are what they're entitled to.

EasternStandard · 22/06/2026 11:45

Figgygal · 22/06/2026 11:40

This entire sorry Saga is a dark day for politics and our democracy.
The media's role should be reporting news not creating it
They have been relentless in their opposition to him from day one some say it's because of his role in the investigation into press standards in the past.
This is not the end. The billionaire owned right-wing media will treat his successor in exactly the same way until they have installed a right-wing government back in place, one whose policies serve their interests.
This country is ungovernable and unfortunately the normal man on the street is going to suffer.
Honestly, I wish I was 20 years younger and could fuck off elsewhere.

Starmer and co and their inability to see it’s not the media is part of why he’s gone.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 11:46

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:41

Affording income protection comes before affording kids surely???? Why would you have kids if you’re going to be so reckless they could face destitution?

People who cannot work should be looked after but buy their families first, and only by the state when there are no other options. We shouldn’t have slightly depressed 20 somethings gaming in their bedroom at their mums all day in receipt of benefits.

Well, benefits have become the bread and butter of the UK.

'I can't afford my kids, but I'll just go on benefits.

They're so good, we have individuals flocking from overseas to apply for them.

GoodkneeBadKnee · 22/06/2026 11:47

TeflonBoot · 22/06/2026 10:09

To an extent I agree, however he has done too many u turns and no one knows what he stands for. He has blown a large majority by pandering to the noisy left of the party and not sticking with policy. He was also far too reactive to media criticism.

I agree with this. He should've stuck to his guns on the winter fuel allowance and the 2 child benefit cap.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:47

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 11:46

Well, benefits have become the bread and butter of the UK.

'I can't afford my kids, but I'll just go on benefits.

They're so good, we have individuals flocking from overseas to apply for them.

I lived overseas for a while. We couldn’t get benefits until we’d worked there for at least 5 years. This seemed perfectly reasonable. Why are people moving to the UK able to receive benefits?

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 22/06/2026 11:49

Rishi was voted out!

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 22/06/2026 11:50

Ihatethistimeline · 22/06/2026 08:08

To feel the media is forcing Starmer out and to be annoyed by this.

They need constant drama and content and this is done at the expense of the country. Starmer is boring but things are improving despite major problems like Iran in the background.

If this were 20 years ago he’d have been safe. They are treating government like football clubs and want Burnham as they think he’s more showbiz. These foreign owner media outlets don’t care about the stability of this country, they just want headlines and drama on X to drum up more drama for headlines and opinion pieces where the media all interview each other.

The country is becoming ungovernable because them and I’m sick of it.

I agree. And it's enraging, especially when you look at who owns the media. They aren't supporting the man in the street by any stretch of the imagination.
I was not a fan of him at all, but he was actually slowly making progress out of the sh*tshow the Tories made, with all their incompetence and under the table deals and austerity measures that just made people poorer.

It was never gonna be fixed in under 2 years, so people blaming him for the whole countries problems is beyond ridiculous.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 11:51

GoodkneeBadKnee · 22/06/2026 11:47

I agree with this. He should've stuck to his guns on the winter fuel allowance and the 2 child benefit cap.

Well, that's it. No one knew what he stood for.

The benefit cap must be returned to disincentivise irresponsible individuals from creating villages of children they cannot afford.

ladygindiva · 22/06/2026 11:52

I 100% agree and am disappointed this is happening

ladygindiva · 22/06/2026 11:53

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 22/06/2026 11:50

I agree. And it's enraging, especially when you look at who owns the media. They aren't supporting the man in the street by any stretch of the imagination.
I was not a fan of him at all, but he was actually slowly making progress out of the sh*tshow the Tories made, with all their incompetence and under the table deals and austerity measures that just made people poorer.

It was never gonna be fixed in under 2 years, so people blaming him for the whole countries problems is beyond ridiculous.

The British population by and large is thick as shit

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:53

The lifting of the benefit cap was bizzare. This was a move deeply unpopular with the voting public as well as ruinously expensive. Why do it?

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 22/06/2026 11:53

millymollymoomoo · 22/06/2026 08:53

don’t care. His complicity to rake scandal, two tier society and controls on speech and other means he must go, Burnham will be worse. And Labour are completely hypocritical because they ( and lefties media) forced Boris out for much less - eg saying conservatives lost x councils and no longer trusted do must go yet Labour lost 3 times as many yet stay ….. along with many other reasons,

worst party ever

Reform peddled drivel. 🙄

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 11:54

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:47

I lived overseas for a while. We couldn’t get benefits until we’d worked there for at least 5 years. This seemed perfectly reasonable. Why are people moving to the UK able to receive benefits?

It's the imaginary money trees, dear.

I must find out where they are grown 😂

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 22/06/2026 11:55

You know GB news is owed by Farage sponsers, right??

Homelanders · 22/06/2026 11:55

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:28

and while I’m at it, if kids are undernourished it’s probably down to feckless parents. Parents are given enough to live off if they spend wisely. They don’t, and so they starve their kids. Giving the feckless more money doesn’t help anyone.

I always fed my own kids. Apparently that's a big ask this day and age.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 11:58

Homelanders · 22/06/2026 11:55

I always fed my own kids. Apparently that's a big ask this day and age.

It seems some parents fail to realise that feeding their kids is a part of parenting.

The UK has become softened into believing benefits are the answer to everything.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:58

I think it’s different attitudes amongst different sorts of people. I’ve always moved for work, either my work or my husbands. All over UK and in 4 different countries globally. If we were to somehow end up on the breadline wholly reliant on benefits and couldn’t afford to live off them we’d move to the very cheapest possible part of the UK and live there. It’s the people thinking they’ve a right to be housed by the taxpayer in Chelsea etc that I find baffling.