To think carers should be jailed

[InBedBy10]

That man who threw that poor child into the alligator enclosure is said to be severely mentally disabled. He was out with 2 carers who clearly weren't watching him when this happened. Witnesses have said they were on their phones. AIBU to say they should be charged for this incident?

To be honest this is not the first time i have heard about carers being totally negligent and getting away with it. Instead the care company they worked for was sued. Which will probably happen here. But i think its totally wrong that the people directly responsible can walk off into the sunset with no repercussions. There needs to be more liability put on people in this position.

"You can spot them a frighing mile off". Please tell me what you can spot because it's ignoramuses like you that should be locked up and keep your bigoted opinions to yourself you ignoramus

Right, maybe for the best.

Absolutely, I’ve got no desire to be stabbed and then told that it didn’t happen
Which is what’s currently going on behind closed doors

Come back to me if your child gets thrown into a crocodile pit and let me know if you still feel same

Behind the closed doors of where you worked. Let’s not generalise.

😂

What, met every learning disabled person in the country have you?

A person with severe learning difficulties who is mobile and needs two carers is probably more at risk in places like zoos/safari parks, circuses, fairgrounds, places with steep drops etc.

I’m astounded, and really sad people still think like you do. Awful.

One would hope that the person is properly assessed, when planning a day out, but spontaneous erratic behaviour obviously cannot be foreseen. Having said that, if it turns out that the carers weren’t being vigilant , then they should review appropriate punishment.

I don’t know, mine has severe cognitive impairment and full mobility, and he just likes looking at elephants and door hinges.

My old line manager wouldn’t go near some of these places with vulnerable service users which, in hindsight, was good risk assessment. So many things can go wrong in these types of places with people who are unable to understand dangers or have poor impulse control. It’s not worth it.

Someone has to go to jail. You can't have a child thrown into an alligator pit and just say "it was just one of those things, no-one is to blame". It is either the perpetrators fault, or the people who were employed to make sure he didn't do something like that.

We need to hear more facts. The carers could be 2 small framed; frail individuals working for an employer who sent them to look after a 6ft 7 monster of a man. They may have expressed already how they couldn't control him and been ignored/fobbed off. It happens time and time again in the care profession.

There was similar case when someone threw child in the tate gallery.
Think they had special needs.

Jonty Bravery has autism, adhd and a personality disorder (as a minimum).

His research before the crime suggests it was pre-meditated. He’d looked at how autism might affect his sentencing, before he did it.

He was found able to stand trial, and did.

I think, though they both have need, their needs are different.

Nothing will happen

If a child did something that resulted in harm (like the ramming a pushchair into someone incident that was posted on here) should the parent be jailed?
Don't know enough to make a specific judgment.
If I'm looking after a relative's dog/child/vulnerable adult that was known for specific behaviour, I would watch out and alter things for it. If not, while I should be watching, can I be expected to anticipate everything?

It is possible that this is the first time he displayed aggression towards strangers. Its possible that he has had a recent medicstion change and this behaviour was completely unpredictable. Do you think that everyone with a learning disability and a history of any kind of violence should be locked up for ever? If so, campaign for the necessary legislation changes and good luck with that (not really). Its possible that staff weren't properly familiar with the person's risk assessment and care plan due to the service being badly managed. There are possible reasons why the carers should not be locked up so, yes, it is unreasonable to say at this stage that they definitely should.

I am fairly sure it will. A child was thrown to crocodiles.

Someone, somewhere will face consequences.

The people employed probably weren't employed to 'make sure he didn't do something like that' though - likely they were employed to keep the person they were caring for safe.

How can you decide that someone has to go to jail before you even know what happened?

I admit I had a knee jerk reaction about this and was all "jail the carers"... but sometimes things can not be predicted.
We don't know why he has carers. It could be it is because he can get overwhelmed and lash out.. or be a flight risk, risk of falls/seizures, needs help with toileting etc. If he can't be left alone, it makes sense that 2 carers would be with him on a day trip. They can't exactly leave him alone if they need the loo.

He could have even gone to the zoo multiple times before with nothing happening whatsoever.

I am certain there will be a thorough investigation into the carers. If they were shown to negligent, let this be a reminder that not everyone can be a carer... especially when someone job seeking is told to just apply to be one.

Sorry, meant to say could be resulted in death.

You and your old line manager sound like 2 hateful bigots with the backwards mentality that the learning disabled should all be institutionalised and denied freedom of life and liberty that ALL individuals as defined by the EHCR.